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Ogan Helkkare, the Dwarven Engineer is unlocked

next up @$240k

Kizai Uru the Tsudochan Monk



Plus added Plague Aberration Boss

we’re adding an awesome boss miniature - the Plague Aberration to pledges for FREE and creating a special optional mission featuring this terrifying beast that can be played as part of the main campaign. The optional mission featuring the Aberration will be available as a free digital download once Star Saga ships

I won't say no to another Aberration that's $15 to $20 worth depending on where you buy. (or $15.50 at the current exchange rate based on Mantics RRP of £12.49)

It's a good model, and benefits well from the new Deadzone plastic! A nice surprise.

Still quite bitter over it being advertised and sold as resin on the DZ2 Kickstarter for $25, but the new plastic is the next best thing.

The new aberration is nice.

Still wish it was bigger though.

Just wondering how our current Aberrations on 60mm diameter bases fit into a game likely to use 1inch square tiles...

They'll fit 50x50mm iirc.

Yep he'll fit a 50mm base without issue - per the update the Aberrant is not supplied with a base. He will take up 4 squares in game. DS has rules for 2 square x 2 square Large Models and 3x3 Huge Models so SS will likely use the same rules.

Are the corridors at least 2 squares wide?

No there are corridors that are a single square wide as well.

The DS movement rule for large models is
"Move the model a single square at a time - ensuring that for the entirety of the movement the whole of the model's base remains on the dungeon tiles, and on squares permitted by the normal rules for movement for single square models (page XXX)" (couldn't resist adding that last bit )

I admit I'm not well up on DS rules but to me that says large models can't access single width corridors as the whole base cannot remain on the tile and they are confined to rooms and double width corridors. It's probably not much of an issue for a boss that's likely to be in a room. It may be an issue for the Orge Merc for example if it can't negotiate single width corridors.

I was afraid of that. Monsters stuck in a part of a dungeon they were too big to even get into always seemed silly to me.

I'm sure all the scenarios were designed and play tested to ensure that won't be an issue though.

Would you expect anything less?

Well, I hope it goes on a 60mm base in game. That was the size supplied with Deadzone. I was kind of hoping that this game would mean figures could be used across the range of games without the need to own multiple copies of the same models on different sized bases.

It'll be on at least 50mm, I can't imagine having it on a 60mm base will be a significant problem for board game use.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Well, I hope it goes on a 60mm base in game. That was the size supplied with Deadzone. I was kind of hoping that this game would mean figures could be used across the range of games without the need to own multiple copies of the same models on different sized bases.

 Bolognesus wrote:
It'll be on at least 50mm, I can't imagine having it on a 60mm base will be a significant problem for board game use.

If it comes without a base, you can use whatever size you want. It isn't going to fit in some corridors either way.

Looks like the Aberration goes on a 50mm base in SS

Matt Gilbert 4 minutes ago

@davec. The aberration fits on 4 squares (50mm square).

If you have it on a 60mm base you could just ignore any overhang.

The Survivor render

Looks good, at least this time his head will fit inside the helmet.

I wonder what Mantic has in store to up the 'value', and the pledges, before the end?

Good intentions? The promised Co-op and mission designer rules write-ups haven't materialised yet, maybe they could actually manage to follow through on that instead of just putting us off.

Kizai Uru, Tsudochan Monk unlocked

Next Sentry Guns @$245k



As for more value

we’re throwing in five hard plastic Plague Zombies, five hard plastic Plague 3rd Gens (and a Plague Hound) and five hard plastic Pathfinders (plus a D.O.G. Drone).

Nice if you don't have them yet but I've so many that this adds nothing for me personally.

This week we’ll have a more detailed look at both the Character Creator and Mission Creator to show you how they work.

However, in the meantime, we’re pleased to announce that we’re now upgrading the Mission Creator to also include a Bestiary that will have statistics for loads of the Deadzone/Warpath infantry units. Included as part of the Bestiary, we’ll also be producing stat cards for the troop types, making it much easier for the Nexus Player to look up their abilities during a game and allowing them to mix and match their forces. All this has now been added to your pledge and you haven’t had to lift a finger.

What does this mean? Well, if you’ve got a bunch of Rebs minis for your Deadzone faction, you can now create a mission that takes place inside a Rebs base and each troop type will have their own stats. Perhaps you’re a Forge Father player and want a campaign set inside a Brokkr mining facility? Go ahead…

I'm hoping the turrets end up not looking like chibi toys.. Those graphics make them look stumpy and cartoonish. I know that's a thing with Mantic but so far this project hasn't really seemed to go that direction..

Sigh more "free stuff" that needs assembly, how about no?

 MLaw wrote:
I'm hoping the turrets end up not looking like chibi toys.. Those graphics make them look stumpy and cartoonish. I know that's a thing with Mantic but so far this project hasn't really seemed to go that direction..

Here's the render

Looks pretty much like the gun from a Forge Guard modified so it fits on a tripod with a targeter on top; the Forge Guard guns have been out for ages, and they aren't chibi.

However, our Tsudochan friend at the top of the page is now clearly a Technomage turned sour.

Turret looks good. Still can't afford to repledge, but I will probably grab a couple of those in the pledge manager later.

From the energetic value-upping Mantic's been doing, it's clear that whatever their minimum preferred ending goal is, they're concerned that they're not getting there. They tried going the higher cost route of adding brand new material to the base pledge without funding (the Nameless expansion), and they're evidently not comfortable with continuing to add more value that way, so now they're padding out the pledge with previously released material.

If you're entirely new to Mantic sci-fi, that makes this a great KS to back. You're getting the new game and a discounted, representative sampling of their new hard plastic sci-fi range.

If you're an old Mantic supporter and you could use a smattering of extra hard plastic troops, it's also a good deal.

Unfortunately for me, I'm getting diminishing returns from Star Saga's bundled redundancy. Deadzone 2 already gave me the chance to stock up on more of the Peacekeepers I got in Deadzone 1. Dreadball Xtreme already gave me the chance to put the cherry on top of my Warpath rank and file with character models from most races and a range of civilians. I'm less and less comfortable with the built-in excess of KS campaigns as it is, but when the base pledge includes this many hard plastic models that I already helped fund and bought too many of, not to mention a number of slightly reposed PVC versions of those very same models, it's too much deja vu. Considering that most KS campaigns consist entirely of brand new models, with all previously funded / released material kept out of pledge levels and confined to optional add-ons, Mantic just isn't competing effectively for my dollar. I don't need and won't use all of the models I get from a CMON campaign base pledge either, but at least every one of those models adds something to my collection that wasn't there before.

Your mileage may veer off and hit a leprechaun while he's sputtering "Begorrah," of course, and if the extra Warpath sprues and reposed PVC Warpath troopers in the base pledge work for you, good on you. You may chortle in your joy without fear of Bandersnatches. For myself, I can't even justify the increased cost of shipping those redundant models from the UK to a storage box in my basement. I already have too many miniatures that I'll never get to before I kick the bucket.

 NTRabbit wrote:
Looks pretty much like the gun from a Forge Guard modified so it fits on a tripod with a targeter on top; the Forge Guard guns have been out for ages, and they aren't chibi.

However, our Tsudochan friend at the top of the page is now clearly a Technomage turned sour.

I think the gun is probably fine, it's the height of the legs on the tripod that might be on the small side. Are those the Forgefather guns that are rather tall? It would make a bit more sense in that light but I guess it really doesn't matter.. I have scads of tripods from Imperial Guard etc.. plus I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to either extend that one or just make a new one :/

Included in the add-on are 10 GCPS Marines with weapon options, 10 Veer-myn Nightcrawlers with weapon options and all the acrylic counters you’ll need to play (the ones shown here are for illustration purposes only).

Talking of expanding the game, we know that a lot of you are crying out for Star Saga expansions and we’re pleased to say that the first expansion isn’t far away and once we’re through the $250,000 mark, we’ll be able to unveil the full details of our first expansion: Retake the Blackstar Station starring the Veer-myn in all their ratty glory.

However, to get you in the mood for some rat action, we’re unveiling Hacker Halftail, a Kickstarter exclusive Veer-myn mercenary (new sculpt) that will be unlocked at $255,000… so not far to go.

I'd take some of those Project Pandora Acrylic counters on their own but I've no need of another 10 GCPS or Veer Myn.

Hmmm...The Kickstarter is tempting, but we're talking about Mantic here. Dungeon Saga's rules were indeed quite easy to learn, but they're not really what I would call it "a fine long term game". And they say Star Saga's rules are greatly inspired from them.

And of course, there's this long history of Mantic not really giving us what was promised at first or having some weird...quality...for some of their products in the end. Not even talking about delays.

Maybe I should play it safe and wait for retail to see what we will be actually getting...but I'm still wondering.

I feel weird being the one who is actually excited about Mantic's latest KS. Of course, I'm really only excited to buy some of the add on minis in the pledge manager phase, so not really that helpful to the campaign, but excited nonetheless. I hope they don't time the PM to drop in the same month as plastic Sisters of Battle, though...

My problem is that while this is neat, I'm more excited for the plastic Warpath stuff coming out next year. I wants some GCPS!

Same here, I'm a bit annoyed that the GCPS has been pushed back, with no word on the progress of their metal character.

I am sitting on an early bird of this one, but I doubt I'll hold onto it, Mantic is not filling me with confidence or amazing amounts of excitement.