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Son if there's a SoB mention in the GC codex, Manofactorums will be flipped.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Son if there's a SoB mention in the GC codex, Manofactorums will be flipped.

Wouldn't that be a good thing? At least they are not "squatted" then. Can't remember reading the article, maybe on BoLS, someone said they are bringing up Sisters of Battle a lot as of late. So who knows, maybe some good things in 2017 will be there for them.

Davor wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Son if there's a SoB mention in the GC codex, Manofactorums will be flipped.

Wouldn't that be a good thing? At least they are not "squatted" then. Can't remember reading the article, maybe on BoLS, someone said they are bringing up Sisters of Battle a lot as of late. So who knows, maybe some good things in 2017 will be there for them.

I shall flip them in a rage of happiness.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Just saw these in the tyranid Facebook group.

those neophytes are nice. Only annoying thing about conversions will be the little Genestealer medallions they have hanging between their legs.

I don't know if Deathwatch Overkill spoiled me, I didn't think these minis are to great. Maybe seeing them all with Close Combat weapons, my thinking is, How are they going to get there to use that Saw?

Guess we need to see what vehicles Genestealer Cult gets to see if they will have an easier time in getting there.

Now where is the jump infantry of cultists? Or better yes, where is their motorcycles?

Davor wrote:
I don't know if Deathwatch Overkill spoiled me, I didn't think these minis are to great. Maybe seeing them all with Close Combat weapons, my thinking is, How are they going to get there to use that Saw?

Guess we need to see what vehicles Genestealer Cult gets to see if they will have an easier time in getting there.

Now where is the jump infantry of cultists? Or better yes, where is their motorcycles?

or even better, where are my Hormagaunt riding cultists?

terry wrote:

Davor wrote:
I don't know if Deathwatch Overkill spoiled me, I didn't think these minis are to great. Maybe seeing them all with Close Combat weapons, my thinking is, How are they going to get there to use that Saw?

Guess we need to see what vehicles Genestealer Cult gets to see if they will have an easier time in getting there.

Now where is the jump infantry of cultists? Or better yes, where is their motorcycles?

or even better, where are my Hormagaunt riding cultists?

Now they just need to be on a snowy planet and Taun Tauns.

Is it me or is the squad leader of the Neophytes armed with a hand webber...?

Is it bad that I am really hyped

 Shaft, Lord of Slaanesh wrote:
Is it me or is the squad leader of the Neophytes armed with a hand webber...?

My first thought was a hand flamer, but looking more closely it doesn't look to be. Hand webber is a possibility,would be awesome, and seems to fit the aesthetic of the old Wargear book. Then again, it might be something more mining-themed. The red at the end has me thinking of red hot metal, so maybe a hand welder or a rivet gun or something?

Where is the limo/vehicle!?

Probably next week.

Nobody posted this yet?

There's been a Genestealer Cult leak, so be on the look out for any strange individuals!
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1178

Codex.


Acolyte Hybrids kit.


Neophyte Hybrids Kit.

Yep - two pages back.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Holy crap one of the acolytes looks like he's holding demo charges.

I wonder if you put the detonator hands on another Acolyte - one to charge in and the other to detonate - would look cool / fun?

2 pages back.

Edit: ninja'ed.

Davor wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Son if there's a SoB mention in the GC codex, Manofactorums will be flipped.

Wouldn't that be a good thing? At least they are not "squatted" then. Can't remember reading the article, maybe on BoLS, someone said they are bringing up Sisters of Battle a lot as of late. So who knows, maybe some good things in 2017 will be there for them.

As Sisters of Battle were the reason I started 40K I've been adamantly following and searching for any rumours regarding them I can find. I've gone to Games Days and interviewed the designers, I've sent in custom works to GW and received several responses from GW as well but never anything other than "thank you for writing to us and the hard work you've put into your submissions".

As the sisters pretty much never receive anything it does stick out like a sore thumb when they do.

First new Sisters fluff and artwork in years were in the Shield of Baal compaign books.



If you take a look at what's available from GW you will find these:

Codex Inquisition =][=
Codex Grey Knights - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Malleus (The Threat Beyond) - Destroys daemonic threats and investigates the nature of the Daemon.
Codex Death Watch - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Xenos (The Threat Without) - Investigates and eliminates alien influence and plots against the Imperium.

Missing:
Codex Adepta Sororitas - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Hereticus (The Threat Within) - Investigates and roots out heresy, mutation, and rogue psykers from humanity, and polices the Ecclesiarchy.

We have an enemy for the Grey Knights in the form of daemons, Death Watch has numerous foes to fight as well. Ordo Hereticus on the other hand hasn't had a pure threat until now, what I mean is a threat to the imperium that falls into all 3 criteria: Witchcraft, Heresy and Mutation.
Genestealer cults fulfill all of these, they are the ultimate foe of the Ordo Hereticus. GK and Death Watch don't deal with these threats, or rather it's not their primary objective.

So in my wishlisting mind I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Sisters release this year, there was a rumor about them being released sometime at the end of this year that popped up at the start of the year. I believe this was the rumour but I can't remember exactly what or who posted it.

Via Birds in the Trees
Sororitas Rundown:
– R&D on the entire line is complete, and the range is all new in plastic.
– 5-model combo-unit Sisters infantry kit
– 3 model Sisters unit on 50mm bases kit
– 5 model Sisters unit on 32mm bases kit (different from the infantry unit listed above)
– Sororitas combo unit vehicle kit “A” kit
– Sororitas combo unit vehicle kit “B” kit
– Sororitas Walker/Monstrous Creature vehicle kit
– 3 clampack Sororitas characters
These are on ice and only await release scheduling by GW.

If you follow previous GW development cycles, or the rumored ones that is, then it would seem plausible for a sisters release this year. I find it hard to believe GW would release plastic Sisters of Silence without releasing some actual Sisters of Battle as well (I know they aren't part of the same army, but they are human female models which is something GW has NEVER done in plastic. First plastic human female models on the market were the Zombie Vixens which is quite funny and sad at the same time).

The Warhammer facebook page said they'd release some pics of something never seen before if they got 40,000 likes, could it be some sisters stuff? Probably more marines as GW and "never seen before" almost always means marines of some sort.

There was also a rumor earlier this year that GW would release new kits in December, something they have never done before. They usually just do the bundles for December.

So if we get Custodes in October with the rumored plastic Sisters of Silence, could we possibly get Sisters in November? Who knows other than GW, this is all just speculation on my part but with the release of Codex Genestealers (A mini codex that feels kinda pointless for us Sisters players as we need new plastics more than anyone else. Harlequins, Deathwatch, Skitarii, Admech, Militarum Tempestus, Khorne Daemonkin and now Genestealer Cults are all small releases that shouldn't have been released until every major faction in 40K had a complete line of minis in plastic (of which Sisters are the only ones without).

Then again you could say Sisters will be a small release as they don't need many kits to function, a single box of sisters would/could cover all their power armor infantry (Battle Sisters, Celestians, Seraphim, Dominions and Retributors). Sisters combo box, Sisters Repentia, Penitent Engine, Exorcist and a plastic Canoness is all that is required to make a Sisters release. Then again I'd rather see a separate Celestian, Battle Sisters/Dominions, Seraphim and Retributor box.


In conclusion, the release of Codex Genestealer Cults is actually a good thing for any Adepta Sororitas/Sisters of Battle fan/player as they now have a tangible threat that they specialize in dealing with.


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 Mr Morden wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Holy crap one of the acolytes looks like he's holding demo charges.

I wonder if you put the detonator hands on another Acolyte - one to charge in and the other to detonate - would look cool / fun?

There used to be suicide guardsmen in metal a loooooong time ago, I believe they even had rules for it. Penal legionaries could also be detonated to restore morale in you failed a morale check.

Now these look like proper demolitions packs, would be funny if you used them in close combat like a power fist but it also killed the wielder. No roll to hit, just a S8 Ap2 against all models in base contact

They did come with assault grenades did they not in the Deathwatch game? So this is something bigger hopefully

I have an odd quibble with the acolytes. Who makes those clothes? Did they go to an imperial tailor and ask for a 6 limbed clothing item without raising suspicion?

 buddha wrote:
I have an odd quibble with the acolytes. Who makes those clothes? Did they go to an imperial tailor and ask for a 6 limbed clothing item without raising suspicion?

They are one big family - likey they have people who will make them clothing that are cultists.

Its a bit like Deep Ones

 buddha wrote:
I have an odd quibble with the acolytes. Who makes those clothes? Did they go to an imperial tailor and ask for a 6 limbed clothing item without raising suspicion?

Awww come on dude, don't you know why they are called Jeanstealers? They are obsessed with clothes and especially jeans!

I'll believe in Sisters getting updated when Sad Panda or Atia says it...

Davor wrote:

gungo wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:

Davor wrote:


Just talking out loud. It's a guess. Let's see, Betrayal at Calth supposed to sell like hot cakes. Yes GW profits went down until computer game licenses basically saved them. Who ever thought Plants vs Zombies 40K would save them.

So much hype for Deathwatch. HUGE time. But why are they not being talked about now? It's almost like they never existed on the threads. Where is the excitement for them now? You would think people clamouring for this, there would still be lots of threads in the 40K section about them, playing them. Don't see it so maybe they are not as popular as people claimed. I am sure it sold a lot, but maybe not the "saviour" that would save 40K if they ever came out like a lot of people claimed it would be.

Also a lot of negativity on the rules for Deathwatch appeared before it was even released. After the negativity of the rules, I don't see ANYTHING for Deathwatch on the forums. So I am guessing it's only a handful of people who got them. Like I said, just guessing. Not saying it's fact.

1) Not everyone who plays posts here
2) I can do a search for Deathwatch on any sub forum and find results.

A minor faction will never be as popular as a main faction so don't expect more.

A big problem with people quoting the quarterly results is that GW didn't release a lot of 40k minatures this year.
BaC is not considered part of GW minatures, but it is listed under thier board games division most of which now fall under forgeworld. Where exactly that falls in under GW quarterly review I have no idea but I know for a fact all those box games that sold well are not listed as part of 40k minatures but board games. Even in the distributors ICT spring results BaC was listed in the board game not non-collectible minature games for 40k. So you can scratch off all the sales for BaC, imperial knight renegades, DWk, death masque, execution force, lost patrol, space hulk, and flyer box games that sold for counting under 40k minature sales. They count under whichever section blood bowl and silver tower go under.

What? It doesn't matter if it falls under 40K, AoS specialist games or even Forge World. It all falls under Games-Workshop. So anything made under Forge World is still under Games Workshop, So it doesn't matter where Betrayal at Calth fits under, ALL profits and what not fall under Games Workshop and their profits are down yet again. Would be even more this year if it wasn't for the video games with GW IP to bring it up.

Are you telling me now that Forge World doesn't fall under Games Workshop and specialist games are under a different company of GW and there fore not part of share holders?

Un yes it matter because GW as a whole was up on profits mainly from licensing stuff but that wasn't just computer games as you stated it also included board games like talisman and other stuff ffg made.

Furthermore you were referencing the minature number but considering there was only a 1-2% drop in retail sales in the yearly report with the majority of the year focused on board game releases and black library codexs such as the AoS rules and rules for small splash releases like death watch and genecult. There was very little change in sales revenue. It's not like this was a banner year of new releases for GW. So your whole point of BaC didn't sell is misplaced since it was mainly board games not stand alone codex updates with massive minature box releases that maintained GW retail sales this year.

 Ambience 327 wrote:

 Shaft, Lord of Slaanesh wrote:
Is it me or is the squad leader of the Neophytes armed with a hand webber...?

My first thought was a hand flamer, but looking more closely it doesn't look to be. Hand webber is a possibility,would be awesome, and seems to fit the aesthetic of the old Wargear book. Then again, it might be something more mining-themed. The red at the end has me thinking of red hot metal, so maybe a hand welder or a rivet gun or something?

What's a hand webber and what did it do?

I love the neophyte champion he looks pretty badass.

shadowfinder wrote:
What's a hand webber and what did it do?

It fired streams of sticky liquid that solidified on contact with air, basically forming a web-like net that constricted the target as they struggled, basically incapacitating them and possibly suffocating them. Sometimes the fluff mentioned that the harder they struggled the tighter it would get, so it could actually use strength against you.

The Neophytes look like an improvement on those in Deathwatch: Overkill, and I love those miniatures. Am very happy with what is due to be released thus far.

MadCowCrazy wrote:

Spoiler:

Davor wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Son if there's a SoB mention in the GC codex, Manofactorums will be flipped.

Wouldn't that be a good thing? At least they are not "squatted" then. Can't remember reading the article, maybe on BoLS, someone said they are bringing up Sisters of Battle a lot as of late. So who knows, maybe some good things in 2017 will be there for them.

As Sisters of Battle were the reason I started 40K I've been adamantly following and searching for any rumours regarding them I can find. I've gone to Games Days and interviewed the designers, I've sent in custom works to GW and received several responses from GW as well but never anything other than "thank you for writing to us and the hard work you've put into your submissions".

As the sisters pretty much never receive anything it does stick out like a sore thumb when they do.

First new Sisters fluff and artwork in years were in the Shield of Baal compaign books.



If you take a look at what's available from GW you will find these:

Codex Inquisition =][=
Codex Grey Knights - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Malleus (The Threat Beyond) - Destroys daemonic threats and investigates the nature of the Daemon.
Codex Death Watch - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Xenos (The Threat Without) - Investigates and eliminates alien influence and plots against the Imperium.

Missing:
Codex Adepta Sororitas - Chamber Militant to the Ordo Hereticus (The Threat Within) - Investigates and roots out heresy, mutation, and rogue psykers from humanity, and polices the Ecclesiarchy.

We have an enemy for the Grey Knights in the form of daemons, Death Watch has numerous foes to fight as well. Ordo Hereticus on the other hand hasn't had a pure threat until now, what I mean is a threat to the imperium that falls into all 3 criteria: Witchcraft, Heresy and Mutation.
Genestealer cults fulfill all of these, they are the ultimate foe of the Ordo Hereticus. GK and Death Watch don't deal with these threats, or rather it's not their primary objective.

So in my wishlisting mind I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a Sisters release this year, there was a rumor about them being released sometime at the end of this year that popped up at the start of the year. I believe this was the rumour but I can't remember exactly what or who posted it.

Via Birds in the Trees
Sororitas Rundown:
– R&D on the entire line is complete, and the range is all new in plastic.
– 5-model combo-unit Sisters infantry kit
– 3 model Sisters unit on 50mm bases kit
– 5 model Sisters unit on 32mm bases kit (different from the infantry unit listed above)
– Sororitas combo unit vehicle kit “A” kit
– Sororitas combo unit vehicle kit “B” kit
– Sororitas Walker/Monstrous Creature vehicle kit
– 3 clampack Sororitas characters
These are on ice and only await release scheduling by GW.

If you follow previous GW development cycles, or the rumored ones that is, then it would seem plausible for a sisters release this year. I find it hard to believe GW would release plastic Sisters of Silence without releasing some actual Sisters of Battle as well (I know they aren't part of the same army, but they are human female models which is something GW has NEVER done in plastic. First plastic human female models on the market were the Zombie Vixens which is quite funny and sad at the same time).

The Warhammer facebook page said they'd release some pics of something never seen before if they got 40,000 likes, could it be some sisters stuff? Probably more marines as GW and "never seen before" almost always means marines of some sort.

There was also a rumor earlier this year that GW would release new kits in December, something they have never done before. They usually just do the bundles for December.

So if we get Custodes in October with the rumored plastic Sisters of Silence, could we possibly get Sisters in November? Who knows other than GW, this is all just speculation on my part but with the release of Codex Genestealers (A mini codex that feels kinda pointless for us Sisters players as we need new plastics more than anyone else. Harlequins, Deathwatch, Skitarii, Admech, Militarum Tempestus, Khorne Daemonkin and now Genestealer Cults are all small releases that shouldn't have been released until every major faction in 40K had a complete line of minis in plastic (of which Sisters are the only ones without).

Then again you could say Sisters will be a small release as they don't need many kits to function, a single box of sisters would/could cover all their power armor infantry (Battle Sisters, Celestians, Seraphim, Dominions and Retributors). Sisters combo box, Sisters Repentia, Penitent Engine, Exorcist and a plastic Canoness is all that is required to make a Sisters release. Then again I'd rather see a separate Celestian, Battle Sisters/Dominions, Seraphim and Retributor box.


In conclusion, the release of Codex Genestealer Cults is actually a good thing for any Adepta Sororitas/Sisters of Battle fan/player as they now have a tangible threat that they specialize in dealing with.


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 Mr Morden wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Holy crap one of the acolytes looks like he's holding demo charges.

I wonder if you put the detonator hands on another Acolyte - one to charge in and the other to detonate - would look cool / fun?

There used to be suicide guardsmen in metal a loooooong time ago, I believe they even had rules for it. Penal legionaries could also be detonated to restore morale in you failed a morale check.

Now these look like proper demolitions packs, would be funny if you used them in close combat like a power fist but it also killed the wielder. No roll to hit, just a S8 Ap2 against all models in base contact

They did come with assault grenades did they not in the Deathwatch game? So this is something bigger hopefully

WOW what passion here. I really hope you get your wish one day soon.

Woa MadCow thats a mighty fine post.

 Ambience 327 wrote:

shadowfinder wrote:
What's a hand webber and what did it do?

It fired streams of sticky liquid that solidified on contact with air, basically forming a web-like net that constricted the target as they struggled, basically incapacitating them and possibly suffocating them. Sometimes the fluff mentioned that the harder they struggled the tighter it would get, so it could actually use strength against you.

In RT times, if you stuggled, you just died. And if you had an INT of 1-4, you always struggled. Hope you had web solvent.

In 2nd, they weren’t as bad. If you got hit, you could try to break free on your turn. Roll a d6, add your strength. 9 or higher broke free. Less then that, you took a wound (but got your save)

3rd+ I think they got lumped in with the “Random pistol thing? Treat as a CC weapon” Not sure there were specific rules for them.

Short ranged gun, max was 8"

 Nevelon wrote:

 Ambience 327 wrote:

shadowfinder wrote:
What's a hand webber and what did it do?

It fired streams of sticky liquid that solidified on contact with air, basically forming a web-like net that constricted the target as they struggled, basically incapacitating them and possibly suffocating them. Sometimes the fluff mentioned that the harder they struggled the tighter it would get, so it could actually use strength against you.

In RT times, if you stuggled, you just died. And if you had an INT of 1-4, you always struggled. Hope you had web solvent.

In 2nd, they weren’t as bad. If you got hit, you could try to break free on your turn. Roll a d6, add your strength. 9 or higher broke free. Less then that, you took a wound (but got your save)

3rd+ I think they got lumped in with the “Random pistol thing? Treat as a CC weapon” Not sure there were specific rules for them.

Short ranged gun, max was 8"

Thanks

Hope for some interesting rules for it then.