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 oldone wrote:
Have genestealer been change to different base sizes? haven't used any of mine since 5th ed, So just wondering what to do with my 50+ stealers.

The new sculpt ones in Deathwatch Overkill were on 32mm, but I'm pretty sure the standard 'stealer box still needs old-school slottabases.


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 General Annoyance wrote:

It definitely won't be added to the AM codex - it is inferior in every way to the Chimera, both rules wise and lore wise, and is just on similar levels to the Taurox, but correct me if I'm wrong, the Taurox is cheaper.

Since AM can ally with GSC, you can add some, but your Ogyrns won't be able to ride in them.

It's hardly inferior in every way... the assault vehicle aspect can be worth trading off 1 point of armour assuming melee is your goal. That benefit is probably way less useful to IG though. If anything I think Orks would want to use Goliath rules more than anyone else.

 xttz wrote:
If anything I think Orks would want to use Goliath rules more than anyone else.

At the least Orks are going to be using the vehicle. Makes a perfect Battlewagon.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 xttz wrote:
If anything I think Orks would want to use Goliath rules more than anyone else.

At the least Orks are going to be using the vehicle. Makes a perfect Battlewagon.

And vice-versa. I've got 3 battlewagons that i'm not using nor going to be anytime soon and as long as the sizes match up (they look like they will be roughly similar) i'm already sitting on 3 goliaths right now. Just gotta make sure I get some appropriate weaponry for them, possibly out of the 2 rockgrinders i'm going to buy and build.

@ OP : Please never make another rumor thread again if you can't be bothered to update ANYTHING after the initial announcement.

What do you think?

If you use the cult ambush rule instead infiltrate, is it considered infiltrate or a diferent rule? (im asking for servoskulls..)

By the way folks, I've thrown up a Tactica using all the rules we know here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/703842.page#8930325

So if you're looking for anything except the benefits for the Doting Throng formation (or explicit points costs for stuff), you can look there rather than through a 65 page thread.

 Kirasu wrote:
@ OP : Please never make another rumor thread again if you can't be bothered to update ANYTHING after the initial announcement.

Why does he have some responsibility to update the thread with new information when other posters are already doing this?

He's also been talking here for quite a bit.

My only message to the OP is to not bother next time because of how rude some people have been to eachother and him here. I know I wouldn't bother next time.

 xttz wrote:


It's hardly inferior in every way... the assault vehicle aspect can be worth trading off 1 point of armour assuming melee is your goal. That benefit is probably way less useful to IG though. If anything I think Orks would want to use Goliath rules more than anyone else.

I should have clarified - in terms of IG alone it is inferior. Orks would want to take it home, paint it blue and try to have its babies.

It's not called "Infiltrate" and thus is not infiltrate. Servoskulls affects any special rules called "Infiltrate"

 General Annoyance wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
@ OP : Please never make another rumor thread again if you can't be bothered to update ANYTHING after the initial announcement.

Why does he have some responsibility to update the thread with new information when other posters are already doing this?

He's also been talking here for quite a bit.

My only message to the OP is to not bother next time because of how rude some people have been to eachother and him here. I know I wouldn't bother next time.

This.

It's not called "Infiltrate" and thus is not infiltrate. Servoskulls affects any special rules called "Infiltrate"

Why does he have some responsibility to update the thread with new information when other posters are already doing this?

He's also been talking here for quite a bit.

My only message to the OP is to not bother next time because of how rude some people have been to eachother and him here. I know I wouldn't bother next time.

Because he posted the thread and most OTHER rumor threads update their posts, so yes if you start the thread then it's your responsibility. Don't want it? don't start the thread, simple. What use are rules on random pages with no idea where they are?

For the neophyte hybrids, I've seen conflicting information on how many special / heavy weapons they can take.

Is it 2 special weapons, 2 heavy mining weapons and a heavy weapons team? Or is it 2 mining weapons OR a heavy weapons team? Is this affected by the number of models in the unit?
Also, what are the special weapons they have access to? Do they get melta/plasma?

 Kirasu wrote:


Because he posted the thread and most OTHER rumor threads update their posts, so yes if you start the thread then it's your responsibility. Don't want it? don't start the thread, simple. What use are rules on random pages with no idea where they are?

You don't make the call on Dakka's rules just because you think they don't apply in this situation - whether it's off topic or not (we are still fairly on topic) you must obey rule no.1

Posting here is a privilege, not a right. Respect it as such

 Kirasu wrote:
@ OP : Please never make another rumor thread again if you can't be bothered to update ANYTHING after the initial announcement.

You want the first post updated so you don't have to wade through 50+ pages of post.

To update the first post, the OP would have to wade through 50+ pages of posts, copy down all relevant information, and append it to the first post.

You are basically saying that the OP must do significantly more work than you are willing to do yourself, just so you don't have to.

If you are interested enough in a topic to check the rumors, just read all the posts. I do it. Others do it. You can too!

 Kirasu wrote:
It's not called "Infiltrate" and thus is not infiltrate. Servoskulls affects any special rules called "Infiltrate"

Why does he have some responsibility to update the thread with new information when other posters are already doing this?

He's also been talking here for quite a bit.

My only message to the OP is to not bother next time because of how rude some people have been to eachother and him here. I know I wouldn't bother next time.

Because he posted the thread and most OTHER rumor threads update their posts, so yes if you start the thread then it's your responsibility. Don't want it? don't start the thread, simple. What use are rules on random pages with no idea where they are?

At risk of being in trouble for double posting this,

All the rules are in one place here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/703842.page#8930325

Welp, nids are gone. Time to buy the bejesus outta stuff this weekend. The Goliaths I'll pick up in due time. For now I'll build my core out of Stealers and other things.

I'm looking at being able to field a detachment already. Yay!

 Kirasu wrote:
@ OP : Please never make another rumor thread again if you can't be bothered to update ANYTHING after the initial announcement.

Really dude? This isnt a job for him, this isnt a rule, no one has to do this, why should he read through 50+ pages.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Welp, nids are gone. Time to buy the bejesus outta stuff this weekend. The Goliaths I'll pick up in due time. For now I'll build my core out of Stealers and other things.

I'm looking at being able to field a detachment already. Yay!

Im actually kinda upset b.c Nids are in such a crappy spot. GSC are going to make a Horde ish army with Tanks and good rules where Nids can do the same but with MC instead of Tanks. The Daemon book gave me so much hopes the same as GSC book is giving me hopes.... but honestly Im done with them, time for GSC!

GSC is going to sell out quicker than deathwatch and 2013 tau empire.

 Amishprn86 wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
@ OP : Please never make another rumor thread again if you can't be bothered to update ANYTHING after the initial announcement.

Really dude? This isnt a job for him, this isnt a rule, no one has to do this, why should he read through 50+ pages.

You know that the OP was involved in the discussion off and on yeah?

It's not as hard as people make it out to be to collate stuff for the first post of a thread here on Dakka. You press the "Filter Thread" button on a post from someone providing information, then start multi-quoting it.

Try keeping an updated OP on the Infinity forums where you have threads filled with pages and pages of people talking about food or other nonsense, where quoting someone who was quoting another person...removes the initial quote.

Perhaps, when new info surfaces, people can PM a link to that post to the OP, who can then add it to the first post without being required to trawling though the thread afterwards?

Gotta agree on updating the OP, though it isn't a responsibility, it sure is nice when that 1st post keeps up. It's too bad we can't 'transfer' the edit rights of the OP to someone who volunteers but that is technically unfeasible unfortunately.

That being said, all in all, very satisfying release for me from GW on this, the inclusion of AM units really was the topper for me, they really went all in. My only regret is there were no alternate HQ models other than the iconward. Would have loved to have seen the 'whispering advisor' or a seated patriarch, and maybe an alternate magus with a sword as that concept was in some of the original art (though a pretty obscure piece) back in the 80's that always stuck with me.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Gotta agree on updating the OP, though it isn't a responsibility, it sure is nice when that 1st post keeps up. It's too bad we can't 'transfer' the edit rights of the OP to someone who volunteers but that is technically unfeasible unfortunately.

I too agree that it'd be nice to have everything we know on the front page. There are better ways of asking the OP to attempt this than "never start a rumour thread ever again".

We should also keep in mind that BloodGrin is a fairly new user, and may not have the know how of how this site works to break down a nearly 65 page long discussion into bitesize facts on the OP.

It certainly isn't your "responsibility as a user" to make entitled people's lives slightly more convenient; a common courtesy to do on rumour threads, maybe, but certainly not something that should be expected from a new user unless asked for and possibly explained over PM.

G.A

Everything we know rules-wise that's been posted throughout this thread is located in the tactics section in my Genestealer tactica thread.

Some of it may be subject to my memory as my image references were removed overnight, but I am relatively confident in what's been posted. Most of the errors are stuff like maybe I think 1 formation is 3-5 units of acolytes, maybe it's 2-5 acolytes, stuff like that. Regardless, it is organized and all in one place for your reference, because we can't update the thread OP in Rumors.

Yup... no need to shame anyone for that. And certainly, being nice and just expressing a request politely should get you much farther than demanding service you aren't paying for as a god-given right lol...

Here, I'll try, BloodGrin, thanks so much for starting the thread up bro. If it isn't too much to ask, and you have 5-10 minutes to spare, do you think you could copy and repost the pics and prices into the OP via an edit?

Then, you know, if we wanted to help him do that, maybe we could post or pm him the main pages/posts to find them on...

 General Annoyance wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Gotta agree on updating the OP, though it isn't a responsibility, it sure is nice when that 1st post keeps up. It's too bad we can't 'transfer' the edit rights of the OP to someone who volunteers but that is technically unfeasible unfortunately.

I too agree that it'd be nice to have everything we know on the front page. There are better ways of asking the OP to attempt this than "never start a rumour thread ever again".

We should also keep in mind that BloodGrin is a fairly new user, and may not have the know how of how this site works to break down a nearly 65 page long discussion into bitesize facts on the OP.

It certainly isn't your "responsibility as a user" to make entitled people's lives slightly more convenient; a common courtesy to do on rumour threads, maybe, but certainly not something that should be expected from a new user unless asked for and possibly explained over PM.

G.A

Joined 2014, 118 posts.

Not a "new" user, just infrequent.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Joined 2014, 118 posts.

Not a "new" user, just infrequent.

Perhaps not new, but not an experienced enough poster to be expected to understand how some functionalities of the site work.

I joined in 2013 - I only just worked out how to format URLs properly


Sounds much better MajorTom - I'll be happy to compile at least half of this thread for you BloodGrin, if that would help you out - just PM me

I think I saw this on Warseer .. and maybe this isn't a topic for discussion here in this thread, but .. I think I remember they had "rumor roundup" forums where a mod would maintain a post with all of the latest details on a certain release. Maybe something like that would be good here? A sticky post for Age of Sigmar rumors, one for 40K & Warmahordes? and any other game deemed worthy?

Then all of the current rumors would go on the OP, and get wiped out when the rumor comes true and is released?

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 radarbabyeater wrote:

No trolling, i like the look of the model and my
ogryns would like an open topped transport to play in

Ideally, of course, Ogryns would like something a bit bigger, especially since they went from Bulky to Very Bulky in the latest book. Gorgons is where it's at.

Hnnng, I just imagined a future in which GSCult have access to FW Guard vehicles and 50 Acolyte Hybrids boil out of a Gorgon chucking demo charges and assaulting everything in sight, only to vanish away back into reserves once everything nearby is dead and reappear on the opposite side of the table

 Necros wrote:
I think I saw this on Warseer .. and maybe this isn't a topic for discussion here in this thread, but .. I think I remember they had "rumor roundup" forums where a mod would maintain a post with all of the latest details on a certain release. Maybe something like that would be good here? A sticky post for Age of Sigmar rumors, one for 40K & Warmahordes? and any other game deemed worthy?

Then all of the current rumors would go on the OP, and get wiped out when the rumor comes true and is released?

That sounds like an awful idea - there's enough unpaid volunteer work here for Mods as it is!

Anyway, as previously noted, while it would be nice if an Original Poster kept the Original Post up to date, it certainly isn't a requirement and it definitely isn't a rule.

Waiting patiently for these pictures to leak, there are certainly some interesting rules here but I want to see it myself!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I think I saw this on Warseer .. and maybe this isn't a topic for discussion here in this thread, but .. I think I remember they had "rumor roundup" forums where a mod would maintain a post with all of the latest details on a certain release. Maybe something like that would be good here? A sticky post for Age of Sigmar rumors, one for 40K & Warmahordes? and any other game deemed worthy?

Then all of the current rumors would go on the OP, and get wiped out when the rumor comes true and is released?

That sounds like an awful idea - there's enough unpaid volunteer work here for Mods as it is!

Plus, it didn't work on Warseer.

There were such threads but they rarely got updated so people stopped caring about them. Before the site went down, I think the latest update in the roundup forum were over two years old.