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Because sitting around with your thumbs up your rear has clearly done a lot of good for African Americans. We really need a sarcasm moticon on dakka.
The problem of course is, most of could care less if there is a riot. It doesn't harm us, makes the rioters look bad, and is great TV.
Some American guy once said that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
I know what you're saying, Frazz and I understand that, but the silent majority, of which you are a part of, will surely see the bigger picture:
African Americans being discriminated against, is not good for American democracy, or the rule of law, because it affects everybody.
It creates needless divisions in a country that has a ton of other problems that need sorting...
It gives ammunition to your enemies abroad,
And so on...
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Prestor Jon wrote: Years of neglect didn't go on a violent rampage in Charlotte, people chose to do that and when you deflect the responsibility for that criminal behavior away from the individuals who committed the acts and put on social neglect instead it's excusing/justifying that criminal behavior.
Thing is, if you go around calling people ugly then you aren't making anyone punch you in the mouth. Each person still has a choice, and the one who does decide to punch you in the mouth has broken the law. But you'd be an incredible kind of idiot if you wandered around calling people ugly and then being surprised when someone did punch you in the mouth. Because while each person makes their own choice, obviously certain kinds of choices are going to be much more common under some circumstances.
Recognising that a long history of poor relations between police and the black community, including a lot of needless deaths, has produced a circumstance where a lot more black people are inclined to riot is, well, kind of obvious. It doesn't excuse the riots, it just recognises it is what it is, and if you don't want future riots, then maybe working on that relationship might be a good starting point (including maybe not shooting so many people).
It may not excuse the riots but that sentiment is very patronizing and racist. Are black people somehow incapable of refraining from burning down stores and rioting every time they get emotional over a social issue? Is there some unwritten social rule that states how many buildings they have to vandalize and destroy in order for their grievances to suddenly be solved with government action? What other pressing social issues can we solve by torching parts of our cities? If it works for police brutality let's keep doing it and fix everything. Perhaps if we weren't readily accepting of actions that support the angry black stereotype it wouldn't be so easy for the underlying problems to be lost in the condemnation of their petulant criminal tantrums.
Because sitting around with your thumbs up your rear has clearly done a lot of good for African Americans. We really need a sarcasm moticon on dakka.
The problem of course is, most of could care less if there is a riot. It doesn't harm us, makes the rioters look bad, and is great TV.
Some American guy once said that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
And lots of coffee!
I know what you're saying, Frazz and I understand that, but the silent majority, of which you are a part of, will surely see the bigger picture:
Riots make people just see riots and criminals. They also buy more guns.
African Americans being discriminated against, is not good for American democracy, or the rule of law, because it affects everybody.
Very true.
It creates needless divisions in a country that has a ton of other problems that need sorting...
True. So do race hustlers.
It gives ammunition to your enemies abroad,
They hate us for our Freedom Fries.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Dreadwinter wrote: It's those late summer snowfalls the south is famous for.
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Reminds me of the Michael Brown incident...where a video of a black man harrassing an elderly white man started making the rounds, falsely claiming that it was Michael Brown to 'prove' he was a thug and deserving of what he got
Automatically Appended Next Post: Funny...when there are riots by white people in response to their sports team winning or losing, you don't hear the same attitude...
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Reminds me of the Michael Brown incident...where a video of a black man harrassing an elderly white man started making the rounds, falsely claiming that it was Michael Brown to 'prove' he was a thug and deserving of what he got
I like the part where the media interviewed his fellow criminal who started the "hands up don't shoot" nonsense.
Funny...when there are riots by white people in response to their sports team winning or losing, you don't hear the same attitude...
You don't actually see sports riots by white people in the US often. Maybe in Yankee land.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Dreadwinter wrote: It's those late summer snowfalls the south is famous for.
Image has been removed
Reminds me of the Michael Brown incident...where a video of a black man harrassing an elderly white man started making the rounds, falsely claiming that it was Michael Brown to 'prove' he was a thug and deserving of what he got
Automatically Appended Next Post: Funny...when there are riots by white people in response to their sports team winning or losing, you don't hear the same attitude...
Well then maybe you aren't listening.
I love the racial white washing in your statement though.
Reminds me of the Michael Brown incident...where a video of a black man harrassing an elderly white man started making the rounds, falsely claiming that it was Michael Brown to 'prove' he was a thug and deserving of what he got
I like the part where the media interviewed his fellow criminal who started the "hands up don't shoot" nonsense.
Funny...when there are riots by white people in response to their sports team winning or losing, you don't hear the same attitude...
You don't actually see sports riots by white people in the US often. Maybe in Yankee land.
Most recent incident that comes to mind is the riot in Vancouver over the Canucks.
Reminds me of the Michael Brown incident...where a video of a black man harrassing an elderly white man started making the rounds, falsely claiming that it was Michael Brown to 'prove' he was a thug and deserving of what he got
I like the part where the media interviewed his fellow criminal who started the "hands up don't shoot" nonsense.
Funny...when there are riots by white people in response to their sports team winning or losing, you don't hear the same attitude...
You don't actually see sports riots by white people in the US often. Maybe in Yankee land.
Most recent incident that comes to mind is the riot in Vancouver over the Canucks.
A Canadian riot? A Canadian riot would be more polite than a NY subway.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
d-usa wrote: Joking while white people light a vehicle on fire? Congrats on proving the point.
Congrats on having the sense of humor of a small boll weevil. Also your statement is racist and offensive. The blanket use of "white people" is demeaning of their culture. Those are Maple-Americans. Half the people I work with are Canadian. They would understand completely.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
d-usa wrote: Joking while white people light a vehicle on fire? Congrats on proving the point.
Congrats on having the sense of humor of a small boll weevil. Also your statement is racist and offensive. The blanket use of "white people" is demeaning of their culture. Those are Maple-Americans. Half the people I work with are Canadian. They would understand completely.
Also, not in the US, so there is that....
But, again, never let the facts get in the way of outrage and an excuse to riot.
Video of a white man being beaten in a parking garage while begging for his life.
Looks like the SJWs are getting what they want. I won't expect the media to cover this...they'll be sure to pick it up once someone starts shooting these racist thugs. Then, it'll be nothing but baby pictures of the attackers, gun control banter, and more anti-white male rhetoric.
if they want your precious silver, give them lead.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Because twitter is a reliable and fact checked source of news.
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Video of a white man being beaten in a parking garage while begging for his life.
Looks like the SJWs are getting what they want. I won't expect the media to cover this...they'll be sure to pick it up once someone starts shooting these racist thugs. Then, it'll be nothing but baby pictures of the attackers, gun control banter, and more anti-white male rhetoric.
And conservatives want uppity blacks to know their place and the return of lynch mobs to remind them of what that place is.
Just to bring the stupid arguments about stupid stereotypes and SJW complaints full circle.
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TheCustomLime wrote: Because twitter is a reliable and fact checked source of news.
You doubt the video? What about it seems fake/wrong/whatever to you?
Honestly curious.
I don't doubt it's real. I'm just wondering if it's from Charlotte. Sometimes people use videos from other incidents and post it as evidence of whatever point they are trying to make.
Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far!
Video of a white man being beaten in a parking garage while begging for his life.
Looks like the SJWs are getting what they want. I won't expect the media to cover this...they'll be sure to pick it up once someone starts shooting these racist thugs. Then, it'll be nothing but baby pictures of the attackers, gun control banter, and more anti-white male rhetoric.
And conservatives want uppity blacks to know their place and the return of lynch mobs to remind them of what that place is.
Just to bring the stupid arguments about stupid stereotypes and SJW complaints full circle.
TheCustomLime wrote: Because twitter is a reliable and fact checked source of news.
You doubt the video? What about it seems fake/wrong/whatever to you?
Honestly curious.
Its not a GoodFact. Its a TrueFact. TrueFacts only have value if they are GoodFacts.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Prestor Jon wrote: Years of neglect didn't go on a violent rampage in Charlotte, people chose to do that and when you deflect the responsibility for that criminal behavior away from the individuals who committed the acts and put on social neglect instead it's excusing/justifying that criminal behavior.
Thing is, if you go around calling people ugly then you aren't making anyone punch you in the mouth. Each person still has a choice, and the one who does decide to punch you in the mouth has broken the law. But you'd be an incredible kind of idiot if you wandered around calling people ugly and then being surprised when someone did punch you in the mouth. Because while each person makes their own choice, obviously certain kinds of choices are going to be much more common under some circumstances.
Recognising that a long history of poor relations between police and the black community, including a lot of needless deaths, has produced a circumstance where a lot more black people are inclined to riot is, well, kind of obvious. It doesn't excuse the riots, it just recognises it is what it is, and if you don't want future riots, then maybe working on that relationship might be a good starting point (including maybe not shooting so many people).
It may not excuse the riots but that sentiment is very patronizing and racist. Are black people somehow incapable of refraining from burning down stores and rioting every time they get emotional over a social issue? Is there some unwritten social rule that states how many buildings they have to vandalize and destroy in order for their grievances to suddenly be solved with government action? What other pressing social issues can we solve by torching parts of our cities? If it works for police brutality let's keep doing it and fix everything. Perhaps if we weren't readily accepting of actions that support the angry black stereotype it wouldn't be so easy for the underlying problems to be lost in the condemnation of their petulant criminal tantrums.
"Petulant criminal tantrums"... give me a break man. I hope you realize that it took under 20 or 30 years of "injustice" against certain white people for rioting to take place. You now pretty much enjoy the result of those riots. Sad thing is, after well over 100 years, you STILL don't want to listen. Instead of actually listening to the grievances of the community, politicians, the media, and many people are continuing the same line of "now's not a good time" or "that isn't the appropriate means of protesting" Well what fething is??
TheCustomLime wrote: Because twitter is a reliable and fact checked source of news.
You doubt the video? What about it seems fake/wrong/whatever to you?
Honestly curious.
I don't doubt it's real. I'm just wondering if it's from Charlotte. Sometimes people use videos from other incidents and post it as evidence of whatever point they are trying to make.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Prestor Jon wrote: Years of neglect didn't go on a violent rampage in Charlotte, people chose to do that and when you deflect the responsibility for that criminal behavior away from the individuals who committed the acts and put on social neglect instead it's excusing/justifying that criminal behavior.
Thing is, if you go around calling people ugly then you aren't making anyone punch you in the mouth. Each person still has a choice, and the one who does decide to punch you in the mouth has broken the law. But you'd be an incredible kind of idiot if you wandered around calling people ugly and then being surprised when someone did punch you in the mouth. Because while each person makes their own choice, obviously certain kinds of choices are going to be much more common under some circumstances.
Recognising that a long history of poor relations between police and the black community, including a lot of needless deaths, has produced a circumstance where a lot more black people are inclined to riot is, well, kind of obvious. It doesn't excuse the riots, it just recognises it is what it is, and if you don't want future riots, then maybe working on that relationship might be a good starting point (including maybe not shooting so many people).
It may not excuse the riots but that sentiment is very patronizing and racist. Are black people somehow incapable of refraining from burning down stores and rioting every time they get emotional over a social issue? Is there some unwritten social rule that states how many buildings they have to vandalize and destroy in order for their grievances to suddenly be solved with government action? What other pressing social issues can we solve by torching parts of our cities? If it works for police brutality let's keep doing it and fix everything. Perhaps if we weren't readily accepting of actions that support the angry black stereotype it wouldn't be so easy for the underlying problems to be lost in the condemnation of their petulant criminal tantrums.
"Petulant criminal tantrums"... give me a break man. I hope you realize that it took under 20 or 30 years of "injustice" against certain white people for rioting to take place. You now pretty much enjoy the result of those riots. Sad thing is, after well over 100 years, you STILL don't want to listen. Instead of actually listening to the grievances of the community, politicians, the media, and many people are continuing the same line of "now's not a good time" or "that isn't the appropriate means of protesting" Well what fething is??
so your argument is that looting trucks on the interstate and looting and burning down a Walmart is the appropriate method of protest? Or is your argument that it's ok to loot and burn down stores as long as "social injustice" made you do it? Or is your argument that the only way for a large demographic group of voters to convince elected officials that are in charge of municipalities and states to enact police reforms is by committing acts I'd criminal violence in the streets? Or is your argument that we shouldn't expect certain demographic groups to behave in a reasonable law abiding manner because there's some sort of excuse or justification that makes it ok to set such pathetically low expectations on them?
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d-usa wrote: Some of the greatest improvements in this country, even the existence of this very country itself, came from violent and illegal uprisings.
People still wrap themselves in the flag of the biggest violent uprising even though it failed.
Said no one who lived through a riot, ever.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
d-usa wrote: Some of the greatest improvements in this country, even the existence of this very country itself, came from violent and illegal uprisings.
People still wrap themselves in the flag of the biggest violent uprising even though it failed.
Lee didn't burn down Richmond or Atlanta in protest of DC. Maybe someone needs to give these guys a lesson on targeting in conjunction with a campaign plan designed to bring the desired endstate.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
d-usa wrote: Some of the greatest improvements in this country, even the existence of this very country itself, came from violent and illegal uprisings.
People still wrap themselves in the flag of the biggest violent uprising even though it failed.
So what are the improvements we currently need in whose name my friends and I can go loot walmarts and burn them down, hijack trucks and loot them too and vandalize large swathes of downtown and have it be ok? Let's make a list so everyone knows when it's a bad riot and when it's a good riot.
Maybe they shouldn't vote for the same politicians in the same party year after year and expect change?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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