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The armor is different enough from the old artwork that it makes me wonder if GW is either:

a) worried about making a copyrightable design in light of the Scibor and Kabuki minis based on the HH artwork, or

b) leaving room to release the "highly anticipated Mk 1 Custodian armor kit" at a later date and higher price.

Still wanting to do some heresy iron warriors but wanted to use the rest of the legionnaires for small display in the cabinet of every legion. Quick off topic question, I have only read the First Heretic so far and around the Drop Site Massacre, were the Luna Wolves still in the old colours or were they now Sons of Horus with the dark green armour?

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Still wanting to do some heresy iron warriors but wanted to use the rest of the legionnaires for small display in the cabinet of every legion. Quick off topic question, I have only read the First Heretic so far and around the Drop Site Massacre, were the Luna Wolves still in the old colours or were they now Sons of Horus with the dark green armour?

Sons of Horus. The HH books start after Horus is crowned Warmaster and renames his Legion, so, before he is corrupted. By the time of Drop Site Massacre he's already that good ol' Horus we all know and hate

Nope, he doesn't take up the offer of renaming them until after the Interex campaign. Until then they were still Luna Wolves. By the time of the dropsite massacre they're Sons of Horus.

 Bull0 wrote:
Nope, he doesn't take up the offer of renaming them until after the Interex campaign. Until then they were still Luna Wolves. By the time of the dropsite massacre they're Sons of Horus.

You are absolutely right!

"Alone in her quarters, Euphrati Keeler thanks the Divine Emperor for placing humanity's fate in the hands of Horus and his Legion - who, after the battle against the Interex, shall henceforth be known as the Sons of Horus."

I would like to see interex models!

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
Nope, he doesn't take up the offer of renaming them until after the Interex campaign. Until then they were still Luna Wolves. By the time of the dropsite massacre they're Sons of Horus.

You are absolutely right!

"Alone in her quarters, Euphrati Keeler thanks the Divine Emperor for placing humanity's fate in the hands of Horus and his Legion - who, after the battle against the Interex, shall henceforth be known as the Sons of Horus."

I had to look it up, to be fair. That book was a long time ago now!


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 kronk wrote:
I would like to see interex models!

I agree 100%

I found that short interlude to be one of the more interesting sub-plots of the whole series so far.

 Bull0 wrote:

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 kronk wrote:
I would like to see interex models!

I agree 100%

Same! If that happened, it would be thanks to the boardgames! Boardgames is where GW could go wild and create some of the rarer xenos!

For now, I need to make plans for my Iron Warriors (Or Hands? Argh! Decisions!). But I want to paint that pre-heresy Ahriman so damn much, it's such a beautiful model!

I just finished re-reading Horus Rising in an attempt to get further in the series than I did last time, and yeah, the Interex stuff is great. Would love to see them fleshed out further somewhere.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:

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 kronk wrote:
I would like to see interex models!

I agree 100%

Same! If that happened, it would be thanks to the boardgames! Boardgames is where GW could go wild and create some of the rarer xenos!

They could even use existing rules for them. You could use Imperial Militia and Cults rules, granting them Provenances of War like Gene Crafted or Survivors of a Dark Age.

I am still waiting for the add-ons for Custodes and Sisters. GW did add-on for GS, along with the DV starters, so there should be adds for BoP.

Ah sweet, thanks a lot for the replies guys.

I can't believe we're not talking about the amazing backdrop terrain they made for the photoshoot. It's perfect- not covered in skulls, looks great but doesn't overpower the minis.

Do reckon that's cast, or clever foam core work?

I'm surprised they released Ahriman as part of this box set and not as part of the forgeworld Character Series - seems quite weird to me. Unless they thought this game needed an extra hook on top of the custodes and SoS.

The custodes leader also looks like he's been designed to look like Valdor who was obviously also there, though they haven't said he is. So maybe he will be character series (I hope!)

TommyBs wrote:
I'm surprised they released Ahriman as part of this box set and not as part of the forgeworld Character Series - seems quite weird to me. Unless they thought this game needed an extra hook on top of the custodes and SoS.

The custodes leader also looks like he's been designed to look like Valdor who was obviously also there, though they haven't said he is. So maybe he will be character series (I hope!)

The idea my local group gets is as follows...

The characters in the box are special characters - however, they are deliberately designed to be relatively 'generic'. They're special characters for the purposes of scenarios in the box...and when FW does release the Fancy Version as part of their character series these special characters-lite make great generic equivalents.

Think I can pick up some custodes cheap on ebay? Sisters as well maybe...

And that's my 2000 point army

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I am still waiting for the add-ons for Custodes and Sisters. GW did add-on for GS, along with the DV starters, so there should be adds for BoP.

I'm still waiting for Loxatl models

 =Angel= wrote:
I can't believe we're not talking about the amazing backdrop terrain they made for the photoshoot. It's perfect- not covered in skulls, looks great but doesn't overpower the minis.

Do reckon that's cast, or clever foam core work?

Yeah I was admiring it as well! Looks very similar to a LotR castle they showcased in a WD many years ago which I think was made from foam core.

Still waiting on Hrud, Bergasi, Kroot mercenary bands. Them to bring back the Zoats. So on and so forth. GW has lots of rabbits left to pull out of their hat. Who knows what may pop up next. I feel like I'm being vindicated for sticking with gw through the last 5 years.

 =Angel= wrote:
I can't believe we're not talking about the amazing backdrop terrain they made for the photoshoot. It's perfect- not covered in skulls, looks great but doesn't overpower the minis.

Do reckon that's cast, or clever foam core work?

Looks like balsa foam or something similar to me. Very well-done whatever it is.

 kronk wrote:
I would like to see interex models!

Kronk, leave your fashion catwalk fetishes out of the thread.

 =Angel= wrote:
I can't believe we're not talking about the amazing backdrop terrain they made for the photoshoot. It's perfect- not covered in skulls, looks great but doesn't overpower the minis.

Do reckon that's cast, or clever foam core work?

I think it's not Foam Core, But that hard pink foam that's been cut/carved to shape.

For lack of a better word, deciding what I want to get. I reallyrics want BaC for the better model count(and the HQs), but if I get BoP, I get the iconic Imperial Fists Mk III armor as well as the Custodes. I could sell off the Sisters of Silence and make a decent amount of my money back. I could then just get parted out HQs from BaC and several sets of Mk IV.

Decisions decisions.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
For lack of a better word, deciding what I want to get. I reallyrics want BaC for the better model count(and the HQs), but if I get BoP, I get the iconic Imperial Fists Mk III armor as well as the Custodes. I could sell off the Sisters of Silence and make a decent amount of my money back. I could then just get parted out HQs from BaC and several sets of Mk IV.

Decisions decisions.

Why not buy BaC and head to ebay for 1 or 2 squads of mkIII armour?

FlubDugger wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
For lack of a better word, deciding what I want to get. I reallyrics want BaC for the better model count(and the HQs), but if I get BoP, I get the iconic Imperial Fists Mk III armor as well as the Custodes. I could sell off the Sisters of Silence and make a decent amount of my money back. I could then just get parted out HQs from BaC and several sets of Mk IV.

Decisions decisions.

Why not buy BaC and head to ebay for 1 or 2 squads of mkIII armour?

I am probably going to do the opposite. I will get 3-4 squads of Mk IV and twould of the Mk IV HQs, and get BoP. I could sell Ahriman and I already know someone who wants the Sisters of Silence. I would turn the Mk III into Breacher squads and the Mk IV into Tactical Squads (possibly Veteran Tactical Squads).

This set is going to be hard to resist, as I'm too deep into preparing for the new Blood Bowl set. Custodes and the sisters are two things i've always wanted to see in the game. But I still haven't fully assembled and painted DW overkill and WHQ silver tower, the last thing I need is another huge box of plastic to sit around in my closet for a year.

The mk 3 thousand sons look pretty generic though, compared to the art which gives them more intricate helmets and armor. I always thought they looked better in mk II armor as well...they never struck me as being the legion to wade around in exclusively mk 3 armor.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
For lack of a better word, deciding what I want to get. I reallyrics want BaC for the better model count(and the HQs), but if I get BoP, I get the iconic Imperial Fists Mk III armor as well as the Custodes. I could sell off the Sisters of Silence and make a decent amount of my money back. I could then just get parted out HQs from BaC and several sets of Mk IV.

Decisions decisions.

More models in prospero...

2 characters : 2 characters
30 Mk iv : 30 Mk iii
5 cataphractii : 5 tartaros
1 contemptor : 5 Custodes + 5 Sisters

You can argue calth is more generic but the custodes and sisters will be highly sought after for trades.

rtb02 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
For lack of a better word, deciding what I want to get. I reallyrics want BaC for the better model count(and the HQs), but if I get BoP, I get the iconic Imperial Fists Mk III armor as well as the Custodes. I could sell off the Sisters of Silence and make a decent amount of my money back. I could then just get parted out HQs from BaC and several sets of Mk IV.

Decisions decisions.

More models in prospero...

2 characters : 2 characters
30 Mk iv : 30 Mk iii
5 cataphractii : 5 tartaros
1 contemptor : 5 Custodes + 5 Sisters

You can argue calth is more generic but the custodes and sisters will be highly sought after for trades.

Generic is better since neither of the characters are usable in an Imperial Fists Legion. I just got three Mk IV squads and two of the PA BaC characters off ebay (for fairly cheap). Now I can get Prospero(from Frontline Gaming for 25% off) and sell off the Sisters and Ahriman. Should make for a nice start to a Legion.

 Thargrim wrote:
This set is going to be hard to resist, as I'm too deep into preparing for the new Blood Bowl set. Custodes and the sisters are two things i've always wanted to see in the game. But I still haven't fully assembled and painted DW overkill and WHQ silver tower, the last thing I need is another huge box of plastic to sit around in my closet for a year.

The mk 3 thousand sons look pretty generic though, compared to the art which gives them more intricate helmets and armor. I always thought they looked better in mk II armor as well...they never struck me as being the legion to wade around in exclusively mk 3 armor.

I'm of a different mind myself. What has made me lose interest in Space Marines over the last 10 years is the sheer amount of junk they have caked on them. The Horus Heresy stuff was great with its generic marines because it creates a lot more uniformity, allowing particular little details to show through (as opposed to an entire squad of special snowflakes). I like that it keeps the marines look less like caricatures of their particular themes. Space Wolves are particularly egregious with this in 40k, saturated head-to-toe in wolves. Here, in simple grey armor and a few special details, I think they shine much more positively.

Slap in a couple of the FW helmet kits interspersed with a few squads, and it'll make for some really good-looking Sons.