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So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.
   
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NivlacSupreme wrote:
I'm still looking forward to the Canoness. Also although according to Veterannoob her rules don't seem like the best.


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Did you just watch the first 1/2 of the Ultramarine movie and shut it off?

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 MadCowCrazy wrote:
NivlacSupreme wrote:
I'm still looking forward to the Canoness. Also although according to Veterannoob her rules don't seem like the best.


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It was a while ago. I'll see if I can find it.


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 VeteranNoob wrote:
NivlacSupreme wrote:
Veterannoob: You don't know anything about the Canoness's rules do you?


She has the usual rules but can give her/her unit hatred in combat. A generic HQ, using art of old model. I'll get the new one.

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That sounds like the rules from the book not the le canoness.

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I can't not think this every time look at that model.

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Dunno if it's been posted yet.
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Drider wrote:
I can't not think this every time look at that model.

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Dunno if it's been posted yet.
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I love it! Can you change the armor to white, and the hair to orange? The drape even looks kind of lab coatish now that I think about it.

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Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.


And force fields - most Inquisitors have at least one energy shield!

Relics - do you mean the one per model (although Tau players keep trying to avoid it)

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.


And force fields - most Inquisitors have at least one energy shield!

Relics - do you mean the one per model (although Tau players keep trying to avoid it)


Most Inquisitors don't wear Power Armour let alone articifer armour. It does make sense though that many players would feel Power armour for Inquisitors is the norm if they only play tabletop and not any of the RPGs or Inquisitor game. This is especially true as most of the 40k ones have been 'battlefield' inquisitors, more Coteaz and power armour wearing male and female Inquisitors and less Gideon Lorr. The same is true of force fields, though they are more common than power armour and much less conspicuous. I dont know of any Inquisitors, to my knowledge, sporting more than one personal field device.

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JWBS wrote:

I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.


And force fields - most Inquisitors have at least one energy shield!

Relics - do you mean the one per model (although Tau players keep trying to avoid it)


I recall it being stated that each Ordo has unique relics. Hoping it's not just the three different books
   
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Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.


And force fields - most Inquisitors have at least one energy shield!

Relics - do you mean the one per model (although Tau players keep trying to avoid it)


Most Inquisitors don't wear Power Armour let alone articifer armour. It does make sense though that many players would feel Power armour for Inquisitors is the norm if they only play tabletop and not any of the RPGs or Inquisitor game. This is especially true as most of the 40k ones have been 'battlefield' inquisitors, more Coteaz and power armour wearing male and female Inquisitors and less Gideon Lorr. The same is true of force fields, though they are more common than power armour and much less conspicuous.


If an Inqusitior really wants artifcer armour - he / she can get it

Inquisitors in the BL novels and in the main game fluff have all sorts of cool stuff and indeed as you say often use forcefields as they are easy concealed. So they really should have access to them in game - no idea why they don't.

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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
The same is true of force fields, though they are more common than power armour and much less conspicuous.

And for several iterations of inquisition codex the have not been able to get any force fields.Skitarii alphas can get force fields, IG officers have force fields, even simple missionaries have them. And yet the most influential agents of the Emperor, who can commandeer battleships, cannot requisition any sort of a force field!


   
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 Mr Morden wrote:
Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.


And force fields - most Inquisitors have at least one energy shield!

Relics - do you mean the one per model (although Tau players keep trying to avoid it)


Most Inquisitors don't wear Power Armour let alone articifer armour. It does make sense though that many players would feel Power armour for Inquisitors is the norm if they only play tabletop and not any of the RPGs or Inquisitor game. This is especially true as most of the 40k ones have been 'battlefield' inquisitors, more Coteaz and power armour wearing male and female Inquisitors and less Gideon Lorr. The same is true of force fields, though they are more common than power armour and much less conspicuous.


If an Inqusitior really wants artifcer armour - he / she can get it

Inquisitors in the BL novels and in the main game fluff have all sorts of cool stuff and indeed as you say often use forcefields as they are easy concealed. So they really should have access to them in game - no idea why they don't.


But, that's not most or all Inquisitors, mainly the more legendary ones. If an Inquisitor really wants power armour he or she can get it? Thats like saying they can grant Exterminatus at the drop of a hat! ( I exaggerate)
Power armour is not mass produced, and certainly not common amongst humans. Power armour is rare, easily spotted, cumbersome (humans dont have black carapace interface or a number of other things incorporated into the much larger astartes PA) Power armour is generally made to fit unless you are luck enough to find a suit that fits you and can take many years to produce, least of which having the means and the authority to get it made in the first place. Articifer armour is on another level completely.

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JWBS wrote:

I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.


And force fields - most Inquisitors have at least one energy shield!

Relics - do you mean the one per model (although Tau players keep trying to avoid it)


Most Inquisitors don't wear Power Armour let alone articifer armour. It does make sense though that many players would feel Power armour for Inquisitors is the norm if they only play tabletop and not any of the RPGs or Inquisitor game. This is especially true as most of the 40k ones have been 'battlefield' inquisitors, more Coteaz and power armour wearing male and female Inquisitors and less Gideon Lorr. The same is true of force fields, though they are more common than power armour and much less conspicuous. I dont know of any Inquisitors, to my knowledge, sporting more than one personal field device.

Amberley Vail used power armor once in the Cain books, to clear out a genestealer nest. But most of the time she wouldn't.

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 Crimson wrote:
Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
The same is true of force fields, though they are more common than power armour and much less conspicuous.

And for several iterations of inquisition codex the have not been able to get any force fields.Skitarii alphas can get force fields, IG officers have force fields, even simple missionaries have them. And yet the most influential agents of the Emperor, who can commandeer battleships, cannot requisition any sort of a force field!



Indeed, I am not saying they should not be able to get one, it is a shame they cannot in some way. Even something like a refractor field would be ok in my eyes, though its a shame when I hear of certain pieces of wargear becoming 'must-haves'

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JWBS wrote:

I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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I'm not sure I am understanding your thread of conversation. Inquisitor Kallus, can you explain or point out the sources you are using for your information?



At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. 
   
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 Melissia wrote:
Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
So inquisitors still cannot take Arti armor? That isn't fluffy... Though I would at least think all three ordos by now could use whatever armor then wanted by now.

Relics change? If its been answered please kindly direct me to the page.


And force fields - most Inquisitors have at least one energy shield!

Relics - do you mean the one per model (although Tau players keep trying to avoid it)


Most Inquisitors don't wear Power Armour let alone articifer armour. It does make sense though that many players would feel Power armour for Inquisitors is the norm if they only play tabletop and not any of the RPGs or Inquisitor game. This is especially true as most of the 40k ones have been 'battlefield' inquisitors, more Coteaz and power armour wearing male and female Inquisitors and less Gideon Lorr. The same is true of force fields, though they are more common than power armour and much less conspicuous. I dont know of any Inquisitors, to my knowledge, sporting more than one personal field device.

Amberley Vail used power armor once in the Cain books, to clear out a genestealer nest. But most of the time she wouldn't.


Indeed, unfortunately the 'game' is where it counts and most players generally wont think twice about taking something like power armour etc. If we look at Inquisitor only one human had power armour from the ready made characters. It would be nice to see different types of inquisitors within the ordo categories that gave other advantages or disadvantages for taking certain wargear etc but 40k is what it is

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JWBS wrote:

I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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Something I really been struggling to follow. Dose this book replace the digital inquisition and sisters of battle digital codexes? dose this book replace the current grey knights codex?

Because itshe starting to sound like it doesn't.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
I'm not sure I am understanding your thread of conversation. Inquisitor Kallus, can you explain or point out the sources you are using for your information?



Dark Heresy, Eisenhorn trilogy etc. Jaq Draco and 2nd ed tended to set a tone however, with the Inquisitor being able to take Terminator armour as well but back then he was an absolute beast in a ridiculous way. If you read the FFG books you will find out a lot more about how Inquisitors generally go about their business and outright war is quite a rare occurence, though it does happen (as in the 40k TT). Generally only very high ranking Inquisitors (Lords) or in your face prolific activists like monodominants who are wanting to put across a point or are highly active in the field of war will wear power armour. It really is not easy to maintain and can be quite a burden (particularly if the power runs out at an inopportune moment)

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JWBS wrote:

I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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 Lockark wrote:
Something I really been struggling to follow. Dose this book replace the digital inquisition and sisters of battle digital codexes? dose this book replace the current grey knights codex?

Because itshe starting to sound like it doesn't.

The Warhammer FB page says it replaces.

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If GW wanted it to replace them, they could just stop selling the digital books.

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 Lockark wrote:
Something I really been struggling to follow. Dose this book replace the digital inquisition and sisters of battle digital codexes? dose this book replace the current grey knights codex?

Because itshe starting to sound like it doesn't.


GW FB says it does. And our local TO and group have said they're going with that, just for a bit of a personal anecdote.
   
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 pretre wrote:
 Lockark wrote:
Something I really been struggling to follow. Dose this book replace the digital inquisition and sisters of battle digital codexes? dose this book replace the current grey knights codex?

Because itshe starting to sound like it doesn't.

The Warhammer FB page says it replaces.


[edit] Got the link it is still up there. -> https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1736387523348546/?type=3&theater

It is not a comment on the INQ book its only about the Sisters book, also there is a lot of flak on the message, that seemed too casually posted by a customer service agent who might not have expected the impact of this message.
They did not respond after the flak nor did they react to the inq part.

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On Codex replacement:

Everyone agrees it does not replaces Codex Gray Knights or Codex Death Watch.

Some people think it does replace Adepta Sororitas, Inquisition, Deathwatch, Legion of the Dammned and Assassins.

Others argue it does not replace them.

You will not find more clarity then this on this thread.
   
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I made a post with the SS off Facebook that says it updates and replaces the sob/as book. Naturally this would the case for everything in the book, not including DW and GK as units are requested by an inquisitor from them.

They will more than likely keep selling digital books until the holidays are over, otherwise they will address because of the rage and keep selling them, back peddling.


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Someone wanna math hammer how many psykers I'll need to summon daemons now lol

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That codex doesn't replace the armies. It is its own book. If you are playing those other armies, their books are the one you use, and more or less, the new ones will be in attachment status.



At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. 
   
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The rules in this eBook are also available in Codex: Imperial Agents, fully revised and updated along with new detachments plus rules for adding even more servants of the Emperor to your army.

As posted earlier.

Note they only mention "also available" instead of "replaces." That implies to me at least that they are both legal.
   
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I think either the ebb poke will be updated to match the revised rules or go the way of the dodo.

As it stands it makes little sense why the inquisition changes would be justified simply because they restructured it so you could possibly add in a special group or sisters, DW, or gk..

Sure there is a change to warbands and lack of skulls..but on the upswing you get a warlord trait, tda inq can use daemon swords, also specific psk powers for each Ordo, and it's possible the inclusion of said special squad allows access to that type of transport.

Going back and using the ebook to use it on its own would be weird, then the inq lost all the above when it was clearly done to ratify things.
   
 
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