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**Quarterdime**

So is this book worth buying for the story alone?

**casvalremdeikun**

Quarterdime wrote:
So is this book worth buying for the story alone?

Are any of GW's books worth buying for story alone?

**Carnikang**

Quarterdime wrote:
So is this book worth buying for the story alone?

I think not the whole thing, or even at full price? I'll browse Ebay for the Fluff half of the books. If they keep up with their two book schtick for one Campaign part that is.

**Eldarain**

tastytaste wrote:
pretre wrote:
tastytaste wrote:
Sorta like how you constantly grab rumors from 4chan, Reddit, Facebook, and Foreign sites, then claim them as your own or take existing rumors add some vagueness so you can't be wrong. BoLS is total gak, but you ain't no Saint either.

If this was at all true, then she would have a much worse record. Instead, she has practically a spotless one. This doesn't indicate cherry picking from other sites to get it. What she does do is repost reliable stuff from other sites and leaks with attribution. That's not rumors, that's reporting.

Aaanyways. You used to do pretty well on accuracy yourself, Tasty, no need to sling arrows.

I totally respect ya Pretre and your rumor logging.

I agree the record is good, but the record doesn't account for timing very well and that is where Atia is constantly finding rumors twisting them to be more vague and then claiming them for himself as being first.

I guess wouldn't mind if he didn't constantly get high and mighty about rumors, everyone takes from everyone and very rarely is the credit given to the right person. I am sure he legitimately gets some good intel, but for the most part is piggybacking on other rumors. It is not like people with average rumor reader skills couldn't put two and two together with say 1ksons the minute Mark of the Wulfren dropped. I get it Atia enjoys bashing click bait sites like Spikeybits and BoLS and it is easy for everyone get behind that, but to pretend his gak don't stink is pretty hypocritical.

You stir up more drama than a Kardashians marathon. Good lord.

**Vain**

tastytaste wrote:

I agree the record is good, but the record doesn't account for timing very well and that is where Atia is constantly finding rumors twisting them to be more vague and then claiming them for himself as being first.

I guess wouldn't mind if he didn't constantly get high and mighty about rumors, everyone takes from everyone and very rarely is the credit given to the right person. I am sure he legitimately gets some good intel, but for the most part is piggybacking on other rumors. It is not like people with average rumor reader skills couldn't put two and two together with say 1ksons the minute Mark of the Wulfren dropped. I get it Atia enjoys bashing click bait sites like Spikeybits and BoLS and it is easy for everyone get behind that, but to pretend his gak don't stink is pretty hypocritical.

If they had some info source and is up there on the reliability meter, I don't care if all they is doing is just backing up the occasional grain of wheat that flies out with the chaff from other rumour mongers.
If they can get to the point where she is anywhere near 90% accurate I am 100% fine with them just commenting on whichever rumour to back or not.

It is not about "being first", it is "being right" that I care about. You say they only say thing that are obvious...well plenty of people have done that and been wrong.
Surely there has to be a bigger bee in your bonnet than someone else is getting some props for rumours?

**DeffDred**

Why is there all this babble about validity of rumor origins?

This is about plastic sisters and white dwarf leaks. Stay on topic!

Take your childish banter elsewhere.

**Stormonu**

Cadia falls, and not a single Imperial Guard model bundle (or new model) to be found? What a rip.

I guess Cadia fell because all the Ad Mech, SoB, Wulfen, and Ultras got in the way of the IG's guns so they couldn't shoot the enemy without taking the chance of hit the fools standing in front of their artillery.

"Drive the tank closer, I want to hit them with my sword" indeed ...

**Eldarain**

Ideally there is a nice new plastic range awaiting the 8th IG launch.

**TomWB**

Cadia falling is a pretty good excuse to replace the Cadian-heavy IG line...

**Carnikang**

Who would replace them as the stock IG though? I could see either Catachan, or a more general kit with a few options.

**RyanAvx**

Probably more Tempestus Scions. Anyway, I kind of hope this means Chaos will be getting new models soon. Those Khorne Berzerkers, at this point, are like that jar of peaches that you forgot about for 12 years that you just found in the cupboard and decide to open it because you just really want peaches.

**MarcoSkoll**

TomWB wrote:
Cadia falling is a pretty good excuse to replace the Cadian-heavy IG line...

Not if the lore has long established that many other planets and regiments have patterned themselves after the Cadians - and, in fact, that stories can happen at any point along a ten thousand year time line.

Also, I think that would run the risk of ticking off a LOT of players who'd be left with incomplete collections, which means that any excuse for it is terrible - a lot of players, if they had to start their collection over again, simply wouldn't. And that's financially worse than keeping them on. Given all the effort that GW as of late has put into trying to lure old players back in (putting out a heap of things that veterans have been asking for for years), I'd like to think they're not that insane.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Carnikang wrote:
Who would replace them as the stock IG though? I could see either Catachan, or a more general kit with a few options.

Personally I'd like for Vostroyans to take the forefront if GW was to can Cadians completely.

If it was up to me though, I'd make a kit for each of the well known IG forces (including Cadia) that aren't made by FW. The kit would be 10 bodies, 12+ heads, 12 legs (2 kneeling) 10 Lasguns and 1 of each special/heavy weapon as well as having a Tank & Sentinel Commander body and some arm options for the Tank Commander/Sergeant.

Bam. The only thing you'd need now is a Command Squad kit for each regiment.

**Atia**

Davor wrote:
Atia wrote:
guru wrote:
Atia wrote:
Be careful when posting that list, people will call you names and say it's fake (even if allot of it has come true and this was listed 3 months before the first release on it).

Anyways - back to topic. Can't wait to see what you guys will say to the next two re-sculpts of classic chaos characters (and I can't wait to see BoLS making a big wishlist rumour out of this *giggles*).

mmmm... fabius bilis, lucious or huron... typhus... abaddon... tell us something else

I can't say, yet

Can't say Yes or can't say No?

It's none of the above. You will have to wait a bit, they are both soon^^

@tastytaste - I have honestly no clue from what backwater-hivecave you troll come from, but you better get a dictionary.

And now stop the attacking and I'll go back and enjoy my read of 'Disciplines of Tzeentch", thanks.

**Future War Cultist**

Plastic Vostroyians would be amazing. They're the best looking guard models who aren't Death Korps and they deserve a lot more love than they currently get.

**TomWB**

Given the way GW'a design is trending back to the hyper-gothic look it started with, I think the Cadian's Starship Trooper-style looks a bit out of place. I could possibly see them doing new generic IG in this kind of fashion:

http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/11/30/10371_md-Concept,%20Copyright%20Games%20Workshop,%20Gothic%20And%20The%20Eldrich,%20Imperial%20Guard.jpg

**unmercifulconker**

Future War Cultist wrote:
Plastic Vostroyians would be amazing. They're the best looking guard models who aren't Death Korps and they deserve a lot more love than they currently get.

You're god damn right.

We really do need a new look for IG, not that the Cadian uniform is bad, just the other regiments are so much cooler its not even a competition. Slightly warhammer-fied modern American uniform or WW1 trecnhmen, Russian badasses with shirtless mustache banner bearers or even ye olde Zulu War British Empire men.

All you need is 2 boxes for each regiment (1 infantry+command sprue and 1 heavy weapon box) and boom, jobs a goodun.

**Gamgee**

Cadian's are fairly cool in my books. Saying that as a Tau fan. I do love me some tanks though even IRL. Though still more of a jet guy.

I think 2 cool things GW could do. Maybe even both.

1. I think GW should make a completely new and cool regiment to become the standard.

2. They could show the cadians as survivors who are bedraggled and just barely managing to survive sort of tanith style as they recruit from other regiments around the galaxy.

If they do both and there is a new regiment it would be cool to see a sub faction of IG that are Cadian Survivors. Or maybe some models incorporated into the wider new line.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Atia wrote:
And now stop the attacking and I'll go back and enjoy my read of 'Disciplines of Tzeentch", thanks.

.
Atia is awesome, stop the

war please.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

gungo wrote:

Spoiler:

Ding!!! Celestine was always stated to not have an unlimited lifeline. This isn't new.

SPOILERS!
And references. Because without references, I can also say that the Emperor has always been a Khorne Bloodthirster in disguise. (Not a real spoiler, but you knew that.)
I'm not saying that this isn't true, I am saying I never say any text by GW implying so, and I want to check out your reference.

casvalremdeikun wrote:
Quarterdime wrote:
So is this book worth buying for the story alone?
Are any of GW's books worth buying for story alone?

Well, I bought a second-hand version of Codex: Sisters of Battle, from 40k's 2nd edition, long after it was playable, and I don't regret that purchase, so... yeah?

**Commisar**

Something of substance ruleswise!
(from GW)
https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/312742999120685/

**zamerion**

Commisar wrote:
Something of substance ruleswise!
(from GW)
https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/312742999120685/

Can anyone write what they say?

Thanksss

**Chikout**

zamerion wrote:
Commisar wrote:
Something of substance ruleswise!
(from GW)
https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/312742999120685/

Can anyone write what they say?

Thanksss

Not much detail. Is Simon grant the only rules writer at GW now? He has been in every 40k rules video so far.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Crudace was the head rules writer for the Deathwatch codex (or at the very least he was the Game Dev the WD article and video discussing the rules for the releases credited with the rules).
Though Phil Kelly is still part of the studio, it's just that he's been heading the fluff side for the last few releases.

No sign of Vetock though.

And details wise all we learn is his weapons are "super powerful" and that Canticles of the Archmagos can give effects other than a 5++ (regaining Hull Points and increasing Ballistic Skill was mentioned) at it seems to get more powerful based on the number of units with Canticles of the Omnissah.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

They say that what sets apart Cawl from other Mechanicus HQ is that Cawl is old, and Cawl LIKE TO DO THE SCIENCE THING!
On the rule department, he has weapons, one that shoots a beam that is good at destroying vehicle, another one which is an arc-scourge, a sub-top (?) version of the arc-claws. He also had FnP, Canticles of the Omnimessiah, and a rule that allows him to boost BS or give invul or repair HP from vehicles of any Imperium armies.

**the_scotsman**

He says that Cawl has a Scryerskull, Arc Scourge, and Mechadendrite hive as wargear...that means nothing tho as it's just names.

For special rules he has both canticles rules and FNP. He's stated to have some kind of "melta beam attack that can shear a vehicle in half" and that the canticle of the archmagos affects all imperium vehicles, so he's a useful ally, but its effects are increased if he's with other cult units.

The canticles of the archmagos can add an invuln save, increase BS, and restore HP to vehicles in the area, among other things.

Generally quite vague, but it seems that cawl was designed to work as an ally unit, which makes sense since he's in a formation with 2 different races already.

**Nevelon**

At one point they flash on the screen some green text with some crunch:

Wargear:
Arc Scourge
Mechandrite hive
Scryer Skull

Special rules:
Canticles of the Archmagos
Canticles of the Omnisiah
Feel no Pain

Edit: and ninja'd

**Kanluwen**

the_scotsman wrote:
He says that Cawl has a Scryerskull, Arc Scourge, and Mechadendrite hive as wargear...that means nothing tho as it's just names.

For special rules he has both canticles rules and FNP. He's stated to have some kind of "melta beam attack that can shear a vehicle in half" and that the canticle of the archmagos affects all imperium vehicles, so he's a useful ally, but its effects are increased if he's with other cult units.

The canticles of the archmagos can add an invuln save, increase BS, and restore HP to vehicles in the area, among other things.

Generally quite vague, but it seems that cawl was designed to work as an ally unit, which makes sense since he's in a formation with 2 different races already.

We've seen the actual rules page for Cawl before, he seemed to have more than just those.

**gungo**

Future War Cultist wrote:
Plastic Vostroyians would be amazing. They're the best looking guard models who aren't Death Korps and they deserve a lot more love than they currently get.

I do like thier steampunk vibe.
But let's be honest cadian guard are not going anywhere. GSC just piggybacked on the cadian sculpts.
Catachan is a poor selling direct only and basically void in the lore so GW wouldn't bet thier house in that line.
The fact creed didn't die nor the cadian 8th means they still have thier special snowflake unit. And cadia is a regimental hiveworld that most of thier units are out and about and not used for planetary defense forces.

**shinros**

Atia wrote:
Davor wrote:
Atia wrote:
guru wrote:
Atia wrote:
Be careful when posting that list, people will call you names and say it's fake (even if allot of it has come true and this was listed 3 months before the first release on it).

Anyways - back to topic. Can't wait to see what you guys will say to the next two re-sculpts of classic chaos characters (and I can't wait to see BoLS making a big wishlist rumour out of this *giggles*).

mmmm... fabius bilis, lucious or huron... typhus... abaddon... tell us something else

I can't say, yet

Can't say Yes or can't say No?

It's none of the above. You will have to wait a bit, they are both soon^^

@tastytaste - I have honestly no clue from what backwater-hivecave you troll come from, but you better get a dictionary.

And now stop the attacking and I'll go back and enjoy my read of 'Disciplines of Tzeentch", thanks.

*breathes heavily* Can you at least say is it a good read?

**Cephalobeard**

Kanluwen wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
He says that Cawl has a Scryerskull, Arc Scourge, and Mechadendrite hive as wargear...that means nothing tho as it's just names.

For special rules he has both canticles rules and FNP. He's stated to have some kind of "melta beam attack that can shear a vehicle in half" and that the canticle of the archmagos affects all imperium vehicles, so he's a useful ally, but its effects are increased if he's with other cult units.

The canticles of the archmagos can add an invuln save, increase BS, and restore HP to vehicles in the area, among other things.

Generally quite vague, but it seems that cawl was designed to work as an ally unit, which makes sense since he's in a formation with 2 different races already.

We've seen the actual rules page for Cawl before, he seemed to have more than just those.

No one ever made heads or tails over the page, though. We don't know what it all said, otherwise we'd know all his rules.