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 unmercifulconker wrote:
Please oh please, endless tides of mass Repentia Squads and Crusaders.

Neither of those is a Troop.

Castellans of the Imperium would great for Blood Angels if allowed.

 Thunderfrog wrote:


Are they just basically Celestine and the Twins, plus a few units added to a Admech/Imperium group?

Hey! Her eyes are up there, mister!

My hope for Castellans:
HQ- 1-4 from any of the following Armies of the Imperium: (Then name off Armies/Codices rather than specific units/characters)
Elites- 0-6 same as above
Troops- 2+(upper limit not sure about) same as above
Fast Attack- 0-6 same as above
Heavy Support- 0-6 same as above

 pretre wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Please oh please, endless tides of mass Repentia Squads and Crusaders.

Neither of those is a Troop.

A man can dream, at least Black Templar Crusaders are.

 Nactor wrote:
Whoops, my bad, then.
On "normal" battles chaos got first then, anyway .)
I am looking fordward to read the book in any case, and one of my buddys is an IG guy - this will bring lots of fun to future battles.

Sadly from what we know of, there is no IG/AM mentioned in the book and it's not about them. So not sure if there is really anything for your buddy there.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Nactor wrote:
...and the ability to bring back fallen Troop units, representing the sheer size of the Imperial War machine and it’s near-limitless manpower.

In a damp room at GW :
"Hey guys, look what we did with the Alpha Legion special rules"
- "Yea, cool, lets give it to the IoM, too!"

IoM had it first with Chenkov and an Apocalypse formation for IG that let you bring back destroyed squads.

What edition was the Tyranid "without number" ?

Davor wrote:

 Nactor wrote:
Whoops, my bad, then.
On "normal" battles chaos got first then, anyway .)
I am looking fordward to read the book in any case, and one of my buddys is an IG guy - this will bring lots of fun to future battles.

Sadly from what we know of, there is no IG/AM mentioned in the book and it's not about them. So not sure if there is really anything for your buddy there.

GW's community page has explicitly said that there are formations and detachments that feature the Astra Militarum and allow for combined Mechanicus armies.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Nactor wrote:
...and the ability to bring back fallen Troop units, representing the sheer size of the Imperial War machine and it’s near-limitless manpower.

In a damp room at GW :
"Hey guys, look what we did with the Alpha Legion special rules"
- "Yea, cool, lets give it to the IoM, too!"

IoM had it first with Chenkov and an Apocalypse formation for IG that let you bring back destroyed squads.

What edition was the Tyranid "without number" ?

I can't honestly recall, but good follow up.

Third Ed.

It came about from a 2nd Ed Tyranid mission called 'Tyranid Attack', where the Tyranids could constantly recycle every unit, but would only win if they could kill ever single enemy model by the end of Turn 6.

Yes, I think it was 3rd ed too.
It also had living ammunition, and unique weapon stats.

Half of the games in 2nd ed. I played were my buddies and I against my friend's father's Tyranids (we played both sides). Endless tides of Tyranids....super fun.

As always, take with salt. And this may be late, I haven't read the last 4 pages.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Third Ed.

It came about from a 2nd Ed Tyranid mission called 'Tyranid Attack', where the Tyranids could constantly recycle every unit, but would only win if they could kill ever single enemy model by the end of Turn 6.

4th Ed, actually. In the '04 book, not the '01 one. The Third Ed. book was pretty spare, although it did start the mutations thing.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Third Ed.

It came about from a 2nd Ed Tyranid mission called 'Tyranid Attack', where the Tyranids could constantly recycle every unit, but would only win if they could kill ever single enemy model by the end of Turn 6.

4th Ed, actually. In the '04 book, not the '01 one. The Third Ed. book was pretty spare, although it did start the mutations thing.

I know they played this missions in a WD mission vs IG and Eldar with the 2nd edition codex and the old photocopied pages i keep show it up as being part of it.

ShaneMarsh wrote:
My hope for Castellans:
HQ- 1-4 from any of the following Armies of the Imperium: (Then name off Armies/Codices rather than specific units/characters)
Elites- 0-6 same as above
Troops- 2+(upper limit not sure about) same as above
Fast Attack- 0-6 same as above
Heavy Support- 0-6 same as above

it sounds like it is Troops 4+ and 0-6 from Elites, FA, or HS.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Third Ed.

It came about from a 2nd Ed Tyranid mission called 'Tyranid Attack', where the Tyranids could constantly recycle every unit, but would only win if they could kill ever single enemy model by the end of Turn 6.

4th Ed, actually. In the '04 book, not the '01 one. The Third Ed. book was pretty spare, although it did start the mutations thing.

Ooh now I remember


That codex was awesome. Had some neat stuff in there. Lots of options, lots of damage.

Woah Celestine is pretty awesome, didn't expect that. Her main weakness is that silly AP3 on the whole unit, but she can tank like crazy, and deal quite a lot of damage on stuff that doesn't have a 2+ (or, well, T5 or more…)

Cawl is auto include in WarCon lists it seems. Why not pay 90 points for that huge upgrade?

Lord Perversor wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Third Ed.

It came about from a 2nd Ed Tyranid mission called 'Tyranid Attack', where the Tyranids could constantly recycle every unit, but would only win if they could kill ever single enemy model by the end of Turn 6.

4th Ed, actually. In the '04 book, not the '01 one. The Third Ed. book was pretty spare, although it did start the mutations thing.

I know they played this missions in a WD mission vs IG and Eldar with the 2nd edition codex and the old photocopied pages i keep show it up as being part of it.

Oh totally, I just meant that it skipped 3rd Ed. (I still have the 2nd, 3rd and 4th Ed. books).

Wulfey wrote:
Cawl is auto include in WarCon lists it seems. Why not pay 90 points for that huge upgrade?

Especially if he can be taken in place of any Dominus in any formation. AdMechSkit just got a huge boost with this guy. Heck, I might get a small amount of AdMech just so I can run him.

I have a feeling Celestine and Greyfax will find a way into most, if not all, of my lists for Marines and Guard. Cawl will find a home with my Guard (he'll help keep my tanks alive)

 War Kitten wrote:
I have a feeling Celestine and Greyfax will find a way into most, if not all, of my lists for Marines and Guard. Cawl will find a home with my Guard (he'll help keep my tanks alive)

Assuming you can ever get ahold of them!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I have a feeling Celestine and Greyfax will find a way into most, if not all, of my lists for Marines and Guard. Cawl will find a home with my Guard (he'll help keep my tanks alive)

Assuming you can ever get ahold of them!

Way ahead of you. Put my pre-order in the instant I got a chance

 War Kitten wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I have a feeling Celestine and Greyfax will find a way into most, if not all, of my lists for Marines and Guard. Cawl will find a home with my Guard (he'll help keep my tanks alive)

Assuming you can ever get ahold of them!

Way ahead of you. Put my pre-order in the instant I got a chance

Anticipated ship date:
Tue 1/10/2017
MEMPHIS, TN US

Scheduled delivery:
Fri 1/13/2017 by 4:30 pm
Glendale, CA US

Do I try to pick it up Friday afternoon? There is a tourney saturday morning ...

good gravy...I gotta admit, the predominantly ork and chaos player part of me is feeling a little greener than usual about all this new super imperial stuff!

eh whatever though, good for you guys...sweet models with sweet rules is basically what we all want at the end of the day right?...anyway, I'm much more of a painter/modeller than a gamer, and I really have no interest in the tournament end of things, so the outstanding cheese potential this stuff brings from the looks of it, will probably never effect me anyway

So I'm assuming that unless there's an errata, peltasts and hoplights aren't playable in this new admech detachment since secutarii aren't included as a faction in the grand convocation.

If those are really his rules he's a fething tough bitch to take down.

Perfect for a Centurionstar!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I have a feeling Celestine and Greyfax will find a way into most, if not all, of my lists for Marines and Guard. Cawl will find a home with my Guard (he'll help keep my tanks alive)

Assuming you can ever get ahold of them!

Celestine and greyfax both have models you can use pretty easily already until you get the new ones.

 pretre wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I have a feeling Celestine and Greyfax will find a way into most, if not all, of my lists for Marines and Guard. Cawl will find a home with my Guard (he'll help keep my tanks alive)

Assuming you can ever get ahold of them!

Celestine and greyfax both have models you can use pretty easily already until you get the new ones.

Where's the fun in that?

Maybe we will get a new Ordo Malleus and Ordo Xenos character. Malleus especially.