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Bojazz wrote:
Possibly related to the gathering storm - Eldar are getting sort of renamed to "Aeldari". Still known as/call themselves Eldar, but official name is Aeldari (a la humans vs homo sapiens I guess)

http://a-40k-author.tumblr.com/post/155956855681/oh-please-tell-me-the-eldar-are-getting-renamed-to

Can anyone verify this?

I mean, I don't care either way frankly...but, why would they be changing eldar to aeldari?...what's wrong with eldar?

...and just like how nobody really calls imperial guard "astra militarum", I can't imagine anyone suddenly calling eldar "aeldari" either...it just seems like basically a waste of time and resources to go rebadging everything, for no real effect aside from probably annoying some people...meh, whatever

GW playing wheel of fortune, buying vowels all over the place...daft.

 ZoBo wrote:

Bojazz wrote:
Possibly related to the gathering storm - Eldar are getting sort of renamed to "Aeldari". Still known as/call themselves Eldar, but official name is Aeldari (a la humans vs homo sapiens I guess)

http://a-40k-author.tumblr.com/post/155956855681/oh-please-tell-me-the-eldar-are-getting-renamed-to

Can anyone verify this?

I mean, I don't care either way frankly...but, why would they be changing eldar to aeldari?...what's wrong with eldar?

...and just like how nobody really calls imperial guard "astra militarum", I can't imagine anyone suddenly calling eldar "aeldari" either...it just seems like basically a waste of time and resources to go rebadging everything, for no real effect aside from probably annoying some people...meh, whatever

GW playing wheel of fortune, buying vowels all over the place...daft.

Lots of people use the term Astra Militarum. Everyone in my local crew does. Sometimes someone will say IG, but for the most part, Imperial Guard has always meant the red guys who protect Emprah Palpatine, not Emprah Emprah.

Having said that, I strongly imagine that Aeldari is an ancient human name for the Eldar in the same way that Mon-keigh is the Eldar name for humanity.

Eldar is an lotr term. Not copyright able.

Bojazz wrote:
Possibly related to the gathering storm - Eldar are getting sort of renamed to "Aeldari". Still known as/call themselves Eldar, but official name is Aeldari (a la humans vs homo sapiens I guess)

http://a-40k-author.tumblr.com/post/155956855681/oh-please-tell-me-the-eldar-are-getting-renamed-to

Can anyone verify this?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/714551.page#9141958

Mr. MacNiven has also commented in that thread HERE.

Every single naming change they do is to better secure their legal rights on these terms. You can't copyright Imperial Guard, Stormtroopers, Space Marines, Orcs, etc. but you can Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Adeptus Astartes, Orruks, etc.

 Kriswall wrote:

Having said that, I strongly imagine that Aeldari is an ancient human name for the Eldar in the same way that Mon-keigh is the Eldar name for humanity.

Don't you mean Aeldari is the ancient Eldar name for themselves? Or even what they probably call themselves?

Remember, 40K names are from the human perspective. I highly doubt Eldar call their unit by the names of Earth animals like Falcons, Hawks, Scorpions, Spiders, Vypers etc
It is more likely that humans have given them these designations as a crude translation of what the Eldar actually call them.

Heck, "Aeldari" could have been their name this whole time, but humans lack the subtlety to hear/pronounce that word correctly, so they call them "Eldar"

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 Galef wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:

Having said that, I strongly imagine that Aeldari is an ancient human name for the Eldar in the same way that Mon-keigh is the Eldar name for humanity.

Don't you mean Aeldari is the ancient Eldar name for themselves? Or even what they probably call themselves?

Remember, 40K names are from the human perspective. I highly doubt Eldar call their unit by the names of Earth animals like Falcons, Hawks, Scorpions, Spiders, Vypers etc
It is more likely that humans have given them these designations as a crude translation of what the Eldar actually call them.

Heck, "Aeldari" could have been their name this whole time, but humans lack the subtlety to hear/pronounce that word correctly, so they call them "Eldar"

if you check the source link, the author says that the eldar call themselves eldar. Aeldari is just an official name, so possibly their name given by the old one when they were created, but has since morphed to Eldar in colloquial conversation.

 Galef wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:

Having said that, I strongly imagine that Aeldari is an ancient human name for the Eldar in the same way that Mon-keigh is the Eldar name for humanity.

Don't you mean Aeldari is the ancient Eldar name for themselves? Or even what they probably call themselves?

Remember, 40K names are from the human perspective. I highly doubt Eldar call their unit by the names of Earth animals like Falcons, Hawks, Scorpions, Spiders, Vypers etc
It is more likely that humans have given them these designations as a crude translation of what the Eldar actually call them.

Heck, "Aeldari" could have been their name this whole time, but humans lack the subtlety to hear/pronounce that word correctly, so they call them "Eldar"

-

They do not, at least from the sources we have available. Eldar refer to themselves are Eladrith, extrapolated from Vect being the first to name the denizens of Commorragh, Eladrith Ynneas, meaning Dark Eldar. This was in M32, considering the fall was in M31 I imagine the language wouldn't be so different from the pre-fall Eldar. Perhaps the dialects were different outside of Commorragh, but as far as we know the only word we've heard to describe Eldar in their own language is either Eladrith or Ynneas and I'd put good money on which one means Eldar.

Lanlaorn wrote:
Every single naming change they do is to better secure their legal rights on these terms. You can't copyright Imperial Guard, Stormtroopers, Space Marines, Orcs, etc. but you can Astra Militarum, Militarum Tempestus, Adeptus Astartes, Orruks, etc.

Their motivation is well established. I just wish they wouldn't pick stupid names like Duardin, Orruks and Aeldari!

Don't forget "ogors". Ugh. "Duardin" isn't too bad, considering it's at least somewhat removed from something ridiculous like "dwarfors".

They've been called "Eldar" for 30 years. This is really unnecessary. I'm fine with it being an obscure term used in little quotes by Ahriman and whatever, but I will be loathe to see "Codex: Aeldari Craftworlds" (or "Craftrealms").

ah there we go! ...I was starting to think I was the only belligerent old git around here suddenly

I'd gladly accept this change it also means GW can forget the term "Mon-keigh" ever existed...

 lord marcus wrote:
Eldar is an lotr term. Not copyright able.

I don't think you can copyright a name. You can get a trademark though. GW did exactly that for its use in games and models back in '92.

This is GW just wanting a collective name for all the different factions, isn't it? I'll be surprised if they start changing the names of codecies.

Cosmic Schwung wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
Eldar is an lotr term. Not copyright able.

I don't think you can copyright a name. You can get a trademark though. GW did exactly that for its use in games and models back in '92.

This is GW just wanting a collective name for all the different factions, isn't it? I'll be surprised if they start changing the names of codecies.

They have... Astra Militarum/Tempestus, Adeptus Astartes, Adepta Sororitas.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Cosmic Schwung wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
Eldar is an lotr term. Not copyright able.

I don't think you can copyright a name. You can get a trademark though. GW did exactly that for its use in games and models back in '92.

This is GW just wanting a collective name for all the different factions, isn't it? I'll be surprised if they start changing the names of codecies.

They have... Astra Militarum/Tempestus, Adeptus Astartes, Adepta Sororitas.

Pretty sure my book at home still says Codex Adeptus Astartes: Space Marines.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd gladly accept this change it also means GW can forget the term "Mon-keigh" ever existed...

Not as bad as Gue'la.

 Carnikang wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd gladly accept this change it also means GW can forget the term "Mon-keigh" ever existed...

Not as bad as Gue'la.

Cause screw the game having a sense of humour...

So the Xenos terms for Humanity just happen to sound like Monkey and Gorilla and that's...funny?

OK.

I mean, I'm all for funny stuff that's, you know, actually funny!

 Alpharius wrote:
So the Xenos terms for Humanity just happen to sound like Monkey and Gorilla and that's...funny?

OK.

I mean, I'm all for funny stuff that's, you know, actually funny!

Gue'la sounds like Gorilla?! Wow, you english speakers must pronounce it in a very particular way I never noticed this one.

FAKE
Of dubious authenticity.

Like I did on the other forum where I saw that image posted, I'll draw everyone's attention to 'Matthias Ward' and 'Phi Kellus'.

 Robin5t wrote:
Like I did on the other forum where I saw that image posted, I'll draw everyone's attention to 'Matthias Ward' and 'Phi Kellus'.

That was the first thing I noticed.

Lol, cute

 pretre wrote:

Spoiler:

Of dubious authenticity.

The Ultramarine Scout named 'Phi Kellus'? As in 'Phil Kelly'?

Obviously fake. A New Hope is chapter 4, not 1

 pretre wrote:

 Robin5t wrote:
Like I did on the other forum where I saw that image posted, I'll draw everyone's attention to 'Matthias Ward' and 'Phi Kellus'.

That was the first thing I noticed.

First thing I noticed was that Chapters 2 and 3 are literally the exact same as the first book.
"The Fires of Salvation" and "The Chime of Midnight".

edit: Crud it says I not IA.

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 Kanluwen wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Robin5t wrote:
Like I did on the other forum where I saw that image posted, I'll draw everyone's attention to 'Matthias Ward' and 'Phi Kellus'.

That was the first thing I noticed.

First thing I noticed was that Chapters 2 and 3 are literally the exact same as the first book.
"The Fires of Salvation" and "The Chime of Midnight".

Removed it. Good catch.

It also gives the wrong name for one of the Geminae...but hey, maybe there will be more?

 Ghaz wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Spoiler:

Of dubious authenticity.

The Ultramarine Scout named 'Phi Kellus'? As in 'Phil Kelly'?

And the 8th company Ultramarines captain Matthais/Matthias Ward (not sure, it's a bit blurry), as in Matt(hew) Ward.

That's so fake it shouldn't have been posted here.

In fact, if it is real, I will eat a well done steak.