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 Verviedi wrote:
Re: Ordinatus, that's a new model. We haven't seen that variant.

Re: Magos, YES, DO IT, PLEASE. "No modelled option no rules" is a garbage policy.

It's this one:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Mechanicum-Ordinatus-Sagittar

Oops. Damn, that's odd. I could have sworn that I memorized what it looks like, because I want to buy one.

It's indeed the lesser of the two:

Still, as fun as the Ordinatus Minoris are, I really, really want to see them frame the Big Three in rules… and resin.

 Yodhrin wrote:

That seems a tad nonsensical. HH armies are not shallow but they are similar, that's an unavoidable outcome of the premise of the setting(non-Astartes forces aside). If 8th can't provide sufficient granularity to make the various Legions play differently, then the problem, if that's the right word, is 8th. If my aim is to put a screw into a wall and I have to choose either a hammer or a screwdriver, how is it the screw's fault that the hammer is insufficient to the task?

You seem to be taking it as a value judgement that 8th is inferior, but FW merely seem to think it's the wrong tool for the job.

I think it's pretty clear that 8th has the tools in place to make the Legions play with subtle differences, given that the core rules are 12 pages and the real meat of each unit and army is in the Dataslates and keywords. It would simply be a matter of Forge World writing up the Legions and their bespoke units with this all in mind. And then playtesting them before releasing them as an "Index" to 8th. So, while it's very technically possible - it could be done - it's probably so much work for them to retrofit the 7 books (or even just the red books) that it won't happen for a long, long time - if at all.

 Azazelx wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

That seems a tad nonsensical. HH armies are not shallow but they are similar, that's an unavoidable outcome of the premise of the setting(non-Astartes forces aside). If 8th can't provide sufficient granularity to make the various Legions play differently, then the problem, if that's the right word, is 8th. If my aim is to put a screw into a wall and I have to choose either a hammer or a screwdriver, how is it the screw's fault that the hammer is insufficient to the task?

You seem to be taking it as a value judgement that 8th is inferior, but FW merely seem to think it's the wrong tool for the job.

I think it's pretty clear that 8th has the tools in place to make the Legions play with subtle differences, given that the core rules are 12 pages and the real meat of each unit and army is in the Dataslates and keywords. It would simply be a matter of Forge World writing up the Legions and their bespoke units with this all in mind. And then playtesting them before releasing them as an "Index" to 8th. So, while it's very technically possible - it could be done - it's probably so much work for them to retrofit the 7 books (or even just the red books) that it won't happen for a long, long time - if at all.

I'd suggest that the death of their lead book and rules writer has hampered efforts somewhat. Plenty of people spoke to Alan earlier this year who confirmed that 30k will be moving to 8th. The poor soul's untimely demise has put paid to that.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
This needs to be true, if only to shut you whiny feckers up!

Exalted for...er...I mean, yes, it will be nice if people who really want this thing can finally get it.

And then hopefully Dorn, Alpharius and some obscure Knight Household transfer sheets can show up soon too...?

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh. One can only hope.

 Verviedi wrote:
There have been reports of Forgeworld emails stating that Fires Of Cyraxus will be out "Later this month".

Source: Gitsplitta on Tactica Mechanicus 2.0.

The rumour I heard was it would be the first 2 Index books, then Fires then the remaining 2 Index books - but take with

 zedmeister wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

That seems a tad nonsensical. HH armies are not shallow but they are similar, that's an unavoidable outcome of the premise of the setting(non-Astartes forces aside). If 8th can't provide sufficient granularity to make the various Legions play differently, then the problem, if that's the right word, is 8th. If my aim is to put a screw into a wall and I have to choose either a hammer or a screwdriver, how is it the screw's fault that the hammer is insufficient to the task?

You seem to be taking it as a value judgement that 8th is inferior, but FW merely seem to think it's the wrong tool for the job.

I think it's pretty clear that 8th has the tools in place to make the Legions play with subtle differences, given that the core rules are 12 pages and the real meat of each unit and army is in the Dataslates and keywords. It would simply be a matter of Forge World writing up the Legions and their bespoke units with this all in mind. And then playtesting them before releasing them as an "Index" to 8th. So, while it's very technically possible - it could be done - it's probably so much work for them to retrofit the 7 books (or even just the red books) that it won't happen for a long, long time - if at all.

I'd suggest that the death of their lead book and rules writer has hampered efforts somewhat. Plenty of people spoke to Alan earlier this year who confirmed that 30k will be moving to 8th. The poor soul's untimely demise has put paid to that.

Yes, AB's sad passing has no doubt left a big hole there. He was a talented writer, project manager and so much more.

Other index books are also up for pre-order now:

Imperium: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Imperial-Armour-Index-Astra-Militarum-2017



Xenos: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Imperial-Armour-Index-xenos-2017



Both ship on the 23rd of this month.

Edit: beaten to it, damn

Loads of bundles up as well - not sure if there's a saving for them...

The Imperial Knight bundle has some savings, so maybe the others as well.

Whoo! I am going up to WHW on the 23rd and I was hoping they'd have the Index Xenos available for all my Tau (sorry T'au) stuff; I might just be in luck!

Just checked and yes, all bundles have varying amounts of savings. For the Marauder + 2x Vulture bundle it is £37,=


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The digital versions are also up for pre-order: http://www.warhammerdigital.com/warhammer-40000/featured

I may just do that, as I'd rather not wait six weeks on a physical copy to arrive, not to mention, at least the digital product will (hopefully) receive swift errata.

Looks like the saving are hovering around 10% for each bundle.

Can I honestly not get free shipping to a GW store near me??? What?

U.K. Atleast it's not been possible to get free to store shippping from forgeworld for a long time

I honestly can't see why they don't just release the Imperium and Xenos index books electronically tomorrow. Why delay them another week?

I can understand if they haven't sorted out physical copies yet, but they should have the ebooks done.

Do i wait to see of they come up on the istore, or just buy them through the digital shop...

Hmmm.

Who, on earth, would possibly want to buy 3 KX Titans?

 CragHack wrote:
Who, on earth, would possibly want to buy 3 KX Titans?

I have one and in theory would love to if that was remotely economically viable.

Anyhow if you go to warhammer digital and check the previews for the books, you can get one unit from each book. Vindicator Laser Destroyer (looking really good, reliable damage instead of D6 rolls) Blood Slaughterer, Dimachaeron and some superheavy guard flyer.

Those little goblin special characters are awesome, I might need them just because

Any rules for the supremacy suit yet? Apparently the Xenos book is at warhammer world for people to view.

I'm wondering when that Gabriel Angelos is coming out. I'm waiting to place my 8th edition FW order until he gets released...

Any know/seen the rules on the Repressor transport, last bit of rules rumors im waiting on.

Is frustrating seeing all of the codexes for all armies, but still waitin for that Admech Book from FW....

I can't find an entry for the Ork Mega-Dread.

I could run it as a Meka-Dread with 2 rippa klaws but that entry (shown on Community a while ago) didn't have options for the kannon.

Weird. Maybe I am missing it somewhere.

 Twoshoes23 wrote:
Any know/seen the rules on the Repressor transport, last bit of rules rumors im waiting on.

It should be in the last few pages of the FW: Space Marines Index.

stormboy wrote:
I can't find an entry for the Ork Mega-Dread.

I could run it as a Meka-Dread with 2 rippa klaws but that entry (shown on Community a while ago) didn't have options for the kannon.

Weird. Maybe I am missing it somewhere.

Unfortunately you are not.

We ork players lost a trukkload of models with this update.

The Mega-Dread is one of them.

Shame.