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Besides, GW already did invent evil characters, Amdur, Buhrdur, Durburz, Vrasku to name a few. Aside from the fireball-Ork I actually like them.
   
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 Galas wrote:
The Only "canonical" Nazgul is Khamul the Easterling, the second in command to the Witch King. All of the rest are just custom-made for videogames, books, toys, etc... because they didn't had names
I agree that the GW ones are the coolest I have seen.
And Shadows of Mordor and Shadows of War are obviously non-canonical, but they are very good and fun games in their own right.


Yep thats pretty much my take from it.


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Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Besides, GW already did invent evil characters, Amdur, Buhrdur, Durburz, Vrasku to name a few. Aside from the fireball-Ork I actually like them.


Yep and I love that Evil got some character

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 Formosa wrote:
 Galas wrote:
The Only "canonical" Nazgul is Khamul the Easterling, the second in command to the Witch King. All of the rest are just custom-made for videogames, books, toys, etc... because they didn't had names
I agree that the GW ones are the coolest I have seen.
And Shadows of Mordor and Shadows of War are obviously non-canonical, but they are very good and fun games in their own right.


Yep thats pretty much my take from it.


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Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Besides, GW already did invent evil characters, Amdur, Buhrdur, Durburz, Vrasku to name a few. Aside from the fireball-Ork I actually like them.


Yep and I love that Evil got some character


Named characters in GW's version of LoTR and The Hobbit have to be authorised by New Line Cinema/Tolkien estate or some such variant. Or have been pre agreed as they had been named at some stage during film production.
IIRC the Licence that GW has is only for miniature games based upon LOTR and the Hobbit movies.

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 Mr. Burning wrote:
 Formosa wrote:
 Galas wrote:
The Only "canonical" Nazgul is Khamul the Easterling, the second in command to the Witch King. All of the rest are just custom-made for videogames, books, toys, etc... because they didn't had names
I agree that the GW ones are the coolest I have seen.
And Shadows of Mordor and Shadows of War are obviously non-canonical, but they are very good and fun games in their own right.


Yep thats pretty much my take from it.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Besides, GW already did invent evil characters, Amdur, Buhrdur, Durburz, Vrasku to name a few. Aside from the fireball-Ork I actually like them.


Yep and I love that Evil got some character


Named characters in GW's version of LoTR and The Hobbit have to be authorised by New Line Cinema/Tolkien estate or some such variant. Or have been pre agreed as they had been named at some stage during film production.
IIRC the Licence that GW has is only for miniature games based upon LOTR and the Hobbit movies.

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Ok, if that's the case, what is stopping them creating more characters ? If it's characters and units based on LOTR, then they are free to create as much as they please, with acceptance from new line of course.

   
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Looks like the rulebook is to be released this year

Good news, Horus Heresy fans.

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After a brief delay, we’re very happy to announce that The Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness Rulebook is back on track, and you won’t have to wait long to get your hands on it. In fact, you’ll be able to order your copy this year (that’s right, within the next 11 days)!



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I'll await a FAQ and all that before jumping in.

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 BrookM wrote:
I'll await a FAQ and all that before jumping in.


...but why? The book may not really need it, since it is itself a revamping of the original rules for the Heresy.

And I am really pleased at this lightning fast release. I thought it would be off for months given it was a printing issue.

Really excited to see this book and get my Night Lords in action!

   
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Yeah no, still going to wait. This is after all still a Forge World publication which is bound to have its share of oversights and whatnot.

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I dont want slightly tweaked 7th ed rules, i want proper 8th ed conversion, with a redo of titan rules to make them not terrible in 8th.
   
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 BrookM wrote:
Yeah no, still going to wait. This is after all still a Forge World publication which is bound to have its share of oversights and whatnot.


Eh. This should be wrapping existing FAQs and rewrites into an existing edition that had plenty of time to get overhauled. I'm confident it will be more like the red books and less like Inferno...

...I hope.

   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I dont want slightly tweaked 7th ed rules, i want proper 8th ed conversion, with a redo of titan rules to make them not terrible in 8th.
Same here. I see no reason to jump in with an old ruleset.

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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I dont want slightly tweaked 7th ed rules, i want proper 8th ed conversion, with a redo of titan rules to make them not terrible in 8th.
Same here. I see no reason to jump in with an old ruleset.


if they do an 8th conversion then fine, as long as they also stick to the 1.0 HH ruleset, if the game completely goes to 8th, I will be sorely disapointed and stop playing HH/40k all together, and stick to modelling/painting, I understand people like 8th, but for me the theme and setting of 30k does not lend well to 8th blandification of the characters/rules.

   
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If and when they go to 8th, they will no longer support 7th - however the plan may well be "finish the books in 7th...then convert" meaning you'd have a full ruleset to play at your leisure.

The other comments about 8th, well that's an oddity.

 
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Elbows wrote:
If and when they go to 8th, they will no longer support 7th - however the plan may well be "finish the books in 7th...then convert" meaning you'd have a full ruleset to play at your leisure.

The other comments about 8th, well that's an oddity.


It's really not, 8th has its fans but I find it a bit too "gamey" in its abstractions, ie it doesn't want you to think in terms of the tabletop as a battlefield, it wants you to think in terms of the tabletop as the field of play, hence ludicrous congaline formations and unit placement based on wringing the most advantage out of specific rules. 7th has its faults, no doubt, but many of those are mitigated or eliminated in the Age of Darkness variant, and at least playing games still has that feel of being a general commanding a battle rather than a bloke trying to beat another bloke at toy soldiers in a dingy old church hall/[insert venue as appropriate].

As long as they finish the Heresy series within 7th, they can go nuts with 8th and best of luck to them, but 8th is by no means universally loved and switching just a few books before the big finale leaving people who prefer AoD as it is without a complete set of rules would be garbage and would drive away just as many if not more people than waiting to do the 8th conversion until after they're all done with Terra.

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Converting to 8th edition ruleset is fine, as long as they throw us a bone and give up updated army lists for free. I'd loathe to buy the red books yet again..

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I can't see them going to 8th till they have finished publishing the main Black books, the desire to go to 8th seemed to end with Alan's passing, then the whole thing will be redone in 8th

Wouldn't surprise me to see FW start to move the HH Black books to the Siege sooner than people expect to tie in with the Siege books being released by BL. It still gives them 18 to 24 months to do so.

When was the last time FW or GW reprinted a rule book because they made mistakes with the actual rules? I can't see them reprinting 7.5, they'll just stick with FAQs.
   
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 Looky Likey wrote:

When was the last time FW or GW reprinted a rule book because they made mistakes with the actual rules? I can't see them reprinting 7.5, they'll just stick with FAQs.


Well this is closest thing to that I think with 7th ed rules with all the FAQ's added in and some rules changed.

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tneva82 wrote:
 Looky Likey wrote:

When was the last time FW or GW reprinted a rule book because they made mistakes with the actual rules? I can't see them reprinting 7.5, they'll just stick with FAQs.


Well this is closest thing to that I think with 7th ed rules with all the FAQ's added in and some rules changed.
Close but not quite the same as 7.5 will be replacing powers and the like? Rather than just rewording or recosting abilities as they FAQs have.
   
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Well yes I didn't say it's same. Though one could say removing invisibility IS fixing mistakes Whole spell was mistake from the get-go as was obvious to pretty much anybody.

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Been waiting for this, 8th isn't for me.

We're gonna use this and some house rules for the foreseeable future.

There's basic daemon rules in the back, but it also says you can use the ( now) OOP Codex: Daemons if you have it, according to me learned friends.

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tneva82 wrote:
Well yes I didn't say it's same. Though one could say removing invisibility IS fixing mistakes Whole spell was mistake from the get-go as was obvious to pretty much anybody.
Oh I misunderstood your previous message then. I completely agree about invisibility, but because it was never reworked in a FAQ (and it would have been very easy to do so), shows how little GW wanted to tinker with 7th via FAQs.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2650

Surprised nobody posted this already. Too boring?

Weird rumour in refers forgeworld primarch but that makes never seen part meaningless.

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 Alpharius wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2650

Surprised nobody posted this already. Too boring?

Weird rumour in refers forgeworld primarch but that makes never seen part meaningless.



I do believe the rumor of two Primarchs introduced this year is referring to the 40k line and not the 30k line. Which would mean this post does not belong here, but in it's own thread.
   
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Which was already closed but no biggie also does have other fw related.

40k or 30k. That's mystery. Seems interview was about fw side generally but question related to 40k so did answerer miss that or gave correctly 40k news

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Any ideas when the HH book 8 will come out. And who is in it?
   
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Angelus, unknown, and Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Dark Mechanicum, I believe.



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 griffen127 wrote:
Any ideas when the HH book 8 will come out. And who is in it?

Angelus: Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Night Lords & Dark Mechanicum in varying degrees.

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DarthDiggler wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2650

Surprised nobody posted this already. Too boring?

Weird rumour in refers forgeworld primarch but that makes never seen part meaningless.



I do believe the rumor of two Primarchs introduced this year is referring to the 40k line and not the 30k line. Which would mean this post does not belong here, but in it's own thread.


Was it not mentioned in a Forge World video though? Which would mean 30k.

Edit: according to someone on Bolter and Chainsword, it’s been confirmed on Twitter that they were talking about 30k. In which case, it’s (most likely) Dorn and Alpharius, as we’ve been told that Dorn is done and Alpharius is being worked on.

Edit2: found it
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One of them has never had a model before?

So we're getting an ascended Primarch from FW?

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