Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/16 21:03:12
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Steadfast Grey Hunter
Seminole, Florida
|
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Back on the topic of Aeldari - has the background ever set out what the Eldar refer to themselves as?
Warhammer of course had Asur, Asrai and Druchii as societies, but I'm not currently aware of 40k having equivalents?
Warhammer Wiki has the term but I can not verify when it was updated or changed and I see multiple updates today.
I can not really find any verifiable mention of it in context of Warhammer before today.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/16 21:06:00
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/16 21:05:42
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
Is that Aeldari?
Almost certainly updated today. Given the 'oh/ok/wot' reaction on the interwebs, definitely a new 40k term.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/16 23:46:00
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Liche Priest Hierophant
|
My speculation on what the rune is from the General 40k Rumours thread:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Do the Pheonix Lords have their own runes? And if so, do we know what Ahra's looks like?
I have a funny feeling the rune in the trailer might represent Ahra given it's semblance to the Striking Scorpion symbol with the addition of a tail (which to me looks like the bottom of the Diabolical rune, which makes sense since Ahra fell from grace into darkness) and the Infinity rune (which as pointed out earlier is the same rune used to represent the Infinity Circuit, but the rune also means Infinity by itself) and given the Phoenix Lords are theoretically eternal - or 'infinite' - it makes sense.
I dunno, maybe I'm jumping through hoops here.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 00:22:13
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Wicked Warp Spider
|
Matt.Kingsley wrote:My speculation on what the rune is from the General 40k Rumours thread:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Do the Pheonix Lords have their own runes? And if so, do we know what Ahra's looks like?
I have a funny feeling the rune in the trailer might represent Ahra given it's semblance to the Striking Scorpion symbol with the addition of a tail (which to me looks like the bottom of the Diabolical rune, which makes sense since Ahra fell from grace into darkness) and the Infinity rune (which as pointed out earlier is the same rune used to represent the Infinity Circuit, but the rune also means Infinity by itself) and given the Phoenix Lords are theoretically eternal - or 'infinite' - it makes sense.
I dunno, maybe I'm jumping through hoops here.
Phoenix Lords wear runes of their aspect and those are far less elaborate runes. Oddly enough, other named characters do have their own runes (Eldrad, Illic and Yriel). The rune from trailer is only a bit less elaborate than those of Avatar of Khaine, Wraithknight and Hemlock, all of which are considered to be "weapons of last resort". So my guess is that this is a rune of Avatar of Ynnead.
Other than that, after looking at some pictures of Corsairs in Doom of Mymeara I think that "warrior in red" may not be Arha, but a Corsair Prince, which could mean that Corsairs might someday migrate from FW to GW. They have proven to be quite popular Eldar faction and still lack a lot of their models.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 00:27:09
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Huge Hierodule
United States
|
I'm wondering if Aeldari are what the Eldar were called or called themselves before the Fall. Ahriman's quote seems to be specifically referencing pre-Slaanesh Eldar, when they lived in their hedonistic and carefree society.
Crossing my fingers that they aren't stupid enough to AoS-ize 40k.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 00:28:14
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
nou wrote: Matt.Kingsley wrote:My speculation on what the rune is from the General 40k Rumours thread:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Do the Pheonix Lords have their own runes? And if so, do we know what Ahra's looks like?
I have a funny feeling the rune in the trailer might represent Ahra given it's semblance to the Striking Scorpion symbol with the addition of a tail (which to me looks like the bottom of the Diabolical rune, which makes sense since Ahra fell from grace into darkness) and the Infinity rune (which as pointed out earlier is the same rune used to represent the Infinity Circuit, but the rune also means Infinity by itself) and given the Phoenix Lords are theoretically eternal - or 'infinite' - it makes sense.
I dunno, maybe I'm jumping through hoops here.
Phoenix Lords wear runes of their aspect and those are far less elaborate runes. Oddly enough, other named characters do have their own runes (Eldrad, Illic and Yriel). The rune from trailer is only a bit less elaborate than those of Avatar of Khaine, Wraithknight and Hemlock, all of which are considered to be "weapons of last resort". So my guess is that this is a rune of Avatar of Ynnead.
Other than that, after looking at some pictures of Corsairs in Doom of Mymeara I think that "warrior in red" may not be Arha, but a Corsair Prince, which could mean that Corsairs might someday migrate from FW to GW. They have proven to be quite popular Eldar faction and still lack a lot of their models.
All this talk of an Avatar of Ynnead makes me wonder if they'll make an Avatar dual kit- for Ynnead/Khaine.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 00:37:44
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Been Around the Block
|
Its not the vect phoenix lord combo.
Being an eldar mega nerd its the Autarch rune with the wraith rune above it. Likely its the Arcane battleseer that was rumoured along with eldrad and the crimson corsair guy with his space cat.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 00:43:22
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Dakka Veteran
|
The female Iyanden spiritseer is supposed to have a wraithlord of immense proportions, right? Or is that supposed to be the wraighnight?
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/17 00:43:37
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 00:53:10
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
|
Nvs wrote:The female Iyanden spiritseer is supposed to have a wraithlord of immense proportions, right? Or is that supposed to be the wraighnight?
Iyanna is also accompanied by a massive Wraithlord housing the spirit of an Exarch
source: lexicanum
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/17 00:54:20
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 00:55:05
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Been Around the Block
|
Nvs wrote:The female Iyanden spiritseer is supposed to have a wraithlord of immense proportions, right? Or is that supposed to be the wraighnight?
The rumour says wraithknight, but its probably a wraithlord. Off the top of my head I believe it was her mentor who was an autarch who was severely wounded and merged several spirit stones into 1 wraith shell. The Rune says it all. Its not a psyker, it would need the eye in the triangle and it is the autarch rune with the wraith rune above it.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 01:05:24
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
guru wrote:Nvs wrote:The female Iyanden spiritseer is supposed to have a wraithlord of immense proportions, right? Or is that supposed to be the wraighnight?
Iyanna is also accompanied by a massive Wraithlord housing the spirit of an Exarch
source: lexicanum
He's back to being an Exarch now. So it probably isn't him.
|
tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 01:20:38
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
pm713 wrote:guru wrote:Nvs wrote:The female Iyanden spiritseer is supposed to have a wraithlord of immense proportions, right? Or is that supposed to be the wraighnight?
Iyanna is also accompanied by a massive Wraithlord housing the spirit of an Exarch
source: lexicanum
He's back to being an Exarch now. So it probably isn't him.
It cannot be him because he is no longer in the Wraithlord. Iyanna and her Wraithlord were in the novel Valedor, where it was explained that the Fire Dragon Exarch was in the Wraithlord temporarily because his shrine aboard Iyanden had been destroyed in the past and was in the process of being rebuilt. By the end of the novel, the shrine had been finished and he was removed from the Wraithlord and put back into his newly reconstructed Exarch armor in the shrine.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 01:22:37
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
|
Eldar referred to themselves as Eladrith, at least in some circumstances. We know this because Vect was the first to term the people of Commorragh as Eladrith Ynneas, meaning Dark Eldar. This was in M32, not too long after the fall so language shouldn't have changed too much.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 01:26:36
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
Since M32? How did he live so long? What is keeping him alive? Extra extra extra long live?
|
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 01:28:15
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Liche Priest Hierophant
|
Soul sucking, torture chambers, life elixirs, dark science etc.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 01:47:02
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Been Around the Block
|
Here's the old rumour:
- Arcane Battleseer, similar to a Wraithknight with psychic weapons and powers. Imagine if you smashed up a wraithknight into chunks of Wraithbone then bound them back together with psychic energy energy, can be posed casting a spell, fighting or just standard. Looks extremely cool I'm told.
-Arcane Battleseer Firesight, The first Arcane Battleseer. Used to be the High Farseer of Iyanden but then died and became a Wraithseer and a close advisor to Iyanna Arienal. Was blown apart along with 2 Wraithknights after detonating an Ork Stompa. Iyanna's desperate ritual to save Firesight merged the souls of the Wraithknight Pilots and Firesight together and created a new Wraithbone body called an "Arcane Battleseer". A successful design so has begun being replicated on other craftworlds in addition to creating Wraithseers. Posed like a normal Arcane Battleseer but has a more ornate head and a special energy spear/staff.
- Valossian Sythrac, Basically is Vect's top Archon who does all of his dirty work.
Posed leaping forward with a Husblade behind him and an open soul trap in an outstretched hand which has tendrils of energy leaping forward from it. Has a Golden Helmet with multiple Horns which apparently look a bit like Malekith from WHFB.
-Sylandri Veilwalker, Special Shadowseer, floating on mist which also covers half her character. Has a curved semi circle blade in one hand and a staff in the other.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 01:49:39
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Scuttling Genestealer
|
That rumor sounds like derp. None of it except Veilwalker even sound remotely plausible; Then again, there's about a 99.9% chance of Veilwalker being in the next set of Eldar models for this campaign.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 02:10:02
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Steadfast Grey Hunter
Seminole, Florida
|
TheIronCrow wrote:Here's the old rumour:
- Arcane Battleseer, similar to a Wraithknight with psychic weapons and powers. Imagine if you smashed up a wraithknight into chunks of Wraithbone then bound them back together with psychic energy energy, can be posed casting a spell, fighting or just standard. Looks extremely cool I'm told.
-Arcane Battleseer Firesight, The first Arcane Battleseer. Used to be the High Farseer of Iyanden but then died and became a Wraithseer and a close advisor to Iyanna Arienal. Was blown apart along with 2 Wraithknights after detonating an Ork Stompa. Iyanna's desperate ritual to save Firesight merged the souls of the Wraithknight Pilots and Firesight together and created a new Wraithbone body called an "Arcane Battleseer". A successful design so has begun being replicated on other craftworlds in addition to creating Wraithseers. Posed like a normal Arcane Battleseer but has a more ornate head and a special energy spear/staff.
- Valossian Sythrac, Basically is Vect's top Archon who does all of his dirty work.
Posed leaping forward with a Husblade behind him and an open soul trap in an outstretched hand which has tendrils of energy leaping forward from it. Has a Golden Helmet with multiple Horns which apparently look a bit like Malekith from WHFB.
-Sylandri Veilwalker, Special Shadowseer, floating on mist which also covers half her character. Has a curved semi circle blade in one hand and a staff in the other.
Firesight sounds far too similar to Farsight for comfort and for sales purposes.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 02:10:30
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
|
Davor wrote:Since M32? How did he live so long? What is keeping him alive? Extra extra extra long live?
Genetics, none are better at it than the Haemonculi.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 02:10:56
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
|
ALEXisAWESOME wrote:Eldar referred to themselves as Eladrith, at least in some circumstances. We know this because Vect was the first to term the people of Commorragh as Eladrith Ynneas, meaning Dark Eldar. This was in M32, not too long after the fall so language shouldn't have changed too much.
from personal blog of Robbie MacNiven
Robbie MacNiven wrote:They are indeed, and I know right? I was actually going to make a post about this. I’ve almost forgotten a dozen times since November not to call them Aeldari before the announcement.
Also, for you traditionalists (or whiners), the name Eldar isn’t being removed from the canon either, they still are called/call themselves that, it’s just they can be called both in the same way the Imperial Guard are the Imperial Guard and the Astra Militarum. As a writer it sure is easier when there are multiple names you can use for things.
http://a-40k-author.tumblr.com/post/155956855681/oh-please-tell-me-the-eldar-are-getting-renamed-to
|
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2017/01/17 02:15:24
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 02:24:00
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
Who is Robbie MacNiven?
|
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 02:31:50
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Been Around the Block
|
It must be getting harder and harder to be a denier of the AoSing of 40k the further we get into the "end times"
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 02:33:54
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
|
search Robbie MacNiven in Black library website
http://www.blacklibrary.com/
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/17 02:34:05
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 02:47:36
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
|
CthuluIsSpy wrote: BrookM wrote:What people want is a new plastic regiment with greatcoats, gasmasks, fur hats, totally not fascist looking marching boots, feather boas, grimdark looking armour, overly archaic lasguns, arms with rolled up sleeves and every special / heavy weapon option found in the codex entry.
I got everything except the feather boas. Is there some reference I don't know about?
It is a reference to the movie Predator, who the Catachans are based on. The feather boa part is a reference to Jesse "the Body" Ventura (who played a character in the movie), who's wrestling gimmick involved him wearing one
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/17 02:49:28
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 03:02:04
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
TheIronCrow wrote:It must be getting harder and harder to be a denier of the AoSing of 40k the further we get into the "end times"
It's the "Time of Ending", totally different.
|
"The Omnissiah is my Moderati" |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 03:19:31
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
Thank you Guru.
|
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 04:34:17
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Shade of Despair and Torment
|
What's that chunky big model in the back?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 04:38:14
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Loyal Necron Lychguard
|
That's almost certainly Big Red. We don't know anything about him yet.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 05:15:38
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
UK
|
Nevelon wrote:I posted this in the general thread, but relevant here:
(sorry for the quick crummy pics, just grabbed from a google search)
Looks like an autarch rune with an infinity circuit symbol above. Character warithlord?
I'm on my phone so they're a bit worse  but I think it looks rather a lot like ... is that "Salvation" in the top right (seems appropriate, if it IS for Ynnead!)? With an added infinity symbol, horns and slightly larger head? It is very close to scorpions and autarchs too though, and quite like one on p.149 of the Craftworlds codex.
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/17 05:20:37
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
|
 |
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
guru wrote:Robbie MacNiven wrote:They are indeed, and I know right? I was actually going to make a post about this. I’ve almost forgotten a dozen times since November not to call them Aeldari before the announcement.
Also, for you traditionalists (or whiners), the name Eldar isn’t being removed from the canon either, they still are called/call themselves that, it’s just they can be called both in the same way the Imperial Guard are the Imperial Guard and the Astra Militarum. As a writer it sure is easier when there are multiple names you can use for things.
*sigh*
The Aeldari™ it is.
|
|
|
 |
 |
|