The Gathering Storm Part II: Page 85 Designer interview

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**Eldarain**

Can we have a campaign book where the Imperium just Gravs the Hive Fleets into oblivion and be done with it?

**Therion**

TheIronCrow wrote:
It must be getting harder and harder to be a denier of the AoSing of 40k the further we get into the "end times"

The pattern is the same. We'll get the end times campaign books, full of great art and some rules. They'll be relevant for a few months like the End Times books were, and then we'll get the Age of Emperor or whatever where "Everything you previously bought will be irrelevant".

**axisofentropy**

A thorough argument on who's the red Eldar
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2017/01/18/the-mysterious-man-in-red-is-well-gw-already-told-us-who-it-is/

**Kanluwen**

Why not just post the text of the article?

**pm713**

Kanluwen wrote:
Why not just post the text of the article?

They think it's Yriel in short.

**Kanluwen**

pm713 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Why not just post the text of the article?

They think it's Yriel in short.

Thanks. Can't abide click-through posts.

**Rayvon**

Kanluwen wrote:
Why not just post the text of the article?

Exhibit A: Prince Yriel is guided by the Harlequin Shadowseer Sylandri Veilwalker from the very first chapter. It looks like we may get a Sylandri model in this release and given that her only apparent function in the fluff is Yriel’s guru, it seems like we’ll probably be getting him.

Exhibit B: We find out in a Craftworld-Dark Eldar war council that Yriel has half Dark Eldar blood. His mother was an Iyanden Princess while his father was a mysterious Dark Eldar vagabond that swept her off her feet with some kind of tawdry secret affair. That’s right, the Prince is a royal bastard.

Yriel gets angry at his dark kin and calls them all liars, yet cannot (or perhaps will not) name his actual father. The Archons at the war council have a good time rubbing it in the faces of the stuffy Iyanden aristocracy of course, it’s a fun scene. They ask Yriel to stop and think why he’s never fit into the rigid paths of the craftworlds and why he felt the yearning to break out freely on his own, indulging his impulses as a corsair. The reason is clear.

Exhibit C: Yriel is the only leader that both groups of Eldar are willing to follow. Not only do craftworlders like Yriel, the Dark Eldar claim him just as much, offering him an elite Archon station in Commoragh any time he likes.

Exhibit D: Light and dark coming together make what? Yriel’s weapon is named the Spear of Twilight, a perfect fit for a hero who is unifying both light and dark for a singular purpose. The symbolism has been hiding in plain sight this whole time.

Exhibit E: Belesarius Cawl notes in the first Cadia book that the armor worn by the Man in Red has aspects of both Craftworld and Commorite design. Again, fitting for an Eldar hero uniting Craftworld and Commorite forces.

Exhibit F: The goal of the Harlequins throughout the Dark Eldar Path trilogy as well as other sources is to unify the Eldar race against Chaos not by favoring the aspects of one group over the other but by encouraging all Eldar to embrace everything that they are. Discipline and impulse. Technology as well as ancient ways. Yriel fits the bill here like no other.

Exhibit G: In the final chapter of the Valedor novel Yriel, heroic but sapped of all life by his cursed spear wanders into Iyanden’s shrine to return the spear and just die. Sylandri is there once again. She picks him up and shows him visions of demons bursting forth from the Eye of Terror… then shows him images of his people surging in glory with the Eldar gods returning to strike back vengefully at the Chaos gods. In this vision Slaanesh did not destroy the Eldar gods or the souls of the dead but is merely holding them captive. The story ends as Yriel surges with energy and purpose, seizes the Spear of Twilight once again, and follows the shadowseer into the webway. Sylandri has him at the center of the unfolding story.

And for Bonus Points…

The exact identity of Prince Yriel’s Dark Eldar father isn’t stated in any book. What I’ll point out though is that in the Valedor novel the Dark Eldar Archons really like Yriel and respect him completely. I mean tremendously. He appears to be a celebrity among the Archons despite never having set foot in the Dark City.

And someone in Commoragh sent a lot of Dark Eldar aid Yriel in the battle of Duriel, including the likes of Lilith Hesperax.

And one very high ruler of Commoragh is known for taking powerful Eldar women as companions.

I’m just sayin…

**BloodGrin**

With some of the complete baseless tripe that Frontline comes up with, I think I will wait and see.
I will say that after the newest tease with the Lost poster I feel very safe to say that the release will be one Harlequin, one Dark Eldar and one Eldar and of course one kitty. (and possibly hover dias *cough*)

**silverstu**

They might be right, makes a lot of sense- could that model be holding the Spear of Twilight, not a sword? And there are rumours that Yriel's dad was DE- so he could get support from both factions [the DE supported him in Valedor]. Valedor offers a lot of clues and possible fluff progressions. Its a great book BTW- got me back into collecting eldar.

Looking at the pic again- that really could be the Spear of Twilight- otherwise if it's a sword its being held really awkwardly..

**BloodGrin**

Image I was referring to

**Nvs**

While the breakdown is enticing, where's the justification for the red armor? Why wouldn't he still be in Iyanden colors regardless?

**BloodGrin**

Kanluwen wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Why not just post the text of the article?

They think it's Yriel in short.

Thanks. Can't abide click-through posts.

It is respectful to the site that put effort into the post, especially when that site is ad driven to not steal and plagiarize full text from their stories and just summarize and allow people to go to said site if they so choose.
It is considered the right thing to do.

**pm713**

BloodGrin wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Why not just post the text of the article?

They think it's Yriel in short.

Thanks. Can't abide click-through posts.

It is respectful to the site that put effort into the post, especially when that site is ad driven to not steal and plagiarize full text from their stories and just summarize and allow people to go to said site if they so choose.
It is considered the right thing to do.

That argument goes out the window with the misleading title.

**Galef**

I was really hoping he would be Arhra, but after reading that, I'm starting to hope it is Yriel. It is turns out to be him - Mind Blown!
The red armour could be something pre-Fall and thus pre-Iyanden, which could explain not being yellow & blue.

So are we thinking that the 3 'Aeldari' could be Yriel, that Shadowseer with the Gyrinx & Vect on Dias?

**OgreChubbs**

BloodGrin wrote:
Image I was referring to

Also known as a bobcat.

**Robin5t**

I'm thinking the female eldar in the gown who was stood next to him at the end of Fall of Cadia will be a part of it, at least. She's, in my opinion, either Iyanna Arienal, or for my outside bet, a Worldsinger character of some kind.

**Galef**

Robin5t wrote:
I'm thinking the female eldar in the gown who was stood next to him at the end of Fall of Cadia will be a part of it, at least. She's, in my opinion, either Iyanna Arienal, or for my outside bet, a Worldsinger character of some kind.

Could she be the Shadowseer, or was the Seer mentioned elsewhere in that scene (sorry I won't be getting the Fall of Cadia book)

**silverstu**

I think its Yriel, Lady Malys with the Gyrinx and robe and the Veilwalker. Hopefully they have some interesting bodyguards/assistants other than just the Gyrinx..
I'm fairly sure that is Yriel in the red armour- could be his corsair colours.. could be his fathers armour or relic armour as the Veilwalker led him away but I'm fairly sure that is the spear of twilight, it's too far from the body to be a sword, the proportions would be way off. He might come with a bare head option too..

**Cosmic Schwung**

silverstu wrote:
Looking at the pic again- that really could be the Spear of Twilight- otherwise if it's a sword its being held really awkwardly..

The blade looks pretty big though. They'll have to rename it the Glaive of Twilight. I'm not totally against the idea of it being Yriel. If it is him he's clearly undergone some changes beyond what weapon he carries.

Galef wrote:
Robin5t wrote:
I'm thinking the female eldar in the gown who was stood next to him at the end of Fall of Cadia will be a part of it, at least. She's, in my opinion, either Iyanna Arienal, or for my outside bet, a Worldsinger character of some kind.

Could she be the Shadowseer, or was the Seer mentioned elsewhere in that scene (sorry I won't be getting the Fall of Cadia book)

Yeah, she was a separate character in that scene. She talks to Cawl whilst the lady in the gown is directing stuff.

**Tyel**

Uh, Edited due to it being brought up literally seconds before in the posts above.

**Cosmic Schwung**

edit: whoops, double post

**Galef**

Cosmic Schwung wrote:

Yeah, she was a separate character in that scene. She talks to Cawl whilst the lady in the gown is directing stuff.

Ah, cool, thanks

I'm still thinking Vect is gonna show eventually. I've heard reports of him on a hover craft (Dias) with 2 Incubi body guards
Maybe the Eldar get 4 characters instead of just 3?

**silverstu**

Cosmic Schwung wrote:

The blade looks pretty big though. They'll have to rename it the Glaive of Twilight. I'm not totally against the idea of it being Yriel. If it is him he's clearly undergone some changes beyond what weapon he carries.

The blade of the Spear of Twilight is pretty big though and if it is a sword it looks a bit too far away from his body . The changes.. well he was spirited away on adventures with the Veilwalker at the end of Valedor - might have explored his ancestry or gone on a hunt for ancient artefacts, or that could be his corsair armour..Its interesting anyway- I really like Yriel, not wild keen on his current model though..

**ALEXisAWESOME**

An Eldar Triumverant would have to include 1 Eldar from each aspect, and one of them is almost 100% to be Veilwalker. Craftworld Eldar is either Yriel or Iyanna Arienal, It's clear Yriel has a role to play but similarly he already has a nice model. For the Dark Eldar it's either Vect or Malys, Malys has ties with the Harlequins but then again so does Vect, but Malys has more evidance of actively getting her own hands dirty.

Robed Eldar = Either Malys or Iyanna.
Armoured Figure = Either Yriel with an upgrade, Vects bodyguard (Vects personal excercutioner is an Archon wearing Exarch like armour that traps the souls of his victims) or possibly even Ahra.

My money would be Malys, Veilwalker and Yriel.

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An Eldar Triumverant would have to include 1 Eldar from each aspect, and one of them is almost 100% to be Veilwalker. Craftworld Eldar is either Yriel or Iyanna Arienal, It's clear Yriel has a role to play but similarly he already has a nice model. For the Dark Eldar it's either Vect or Malys, Malys has ties with the Harlequins but then again so does Vect, but Malys has more evidance of actively getting her own hands dirty.

Robed Eldar = Either Malys or Iyanna.
Armoured Figure = Either Yriel with an upgrade, Vects bodyguard (Vects personal excercutioner is an Archon wearing Exarch like armour that traps the souls of his victims) or possibly even Ahra.

My money would be Malys, Veilwalker and Yriel. Simply because I don't think they'd include two Psykers in the Triumverent with both Veilwalker and Iyanna.

**Cephalobeard**

Kanluwen wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Why not just post the text of the article?

They think it's Yriel in short.

Thanks. Can't abide click-through posts.

It's not click through. It's someone breaking down the lore of possibilities. You literally could of simply slowly scrolled down to find the answer.

By all means, be mad at BOLS or Spikybits for being ad fueled nightmare dwellings, but trying to assert FLG as any of those is disingenuous.

**BloodGrin**

pm713 wrote:
BloodGrin wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
pm713 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Why not just post the text of the article?

They think it's Yriel in short.

Thanks. Can't abide click-through posts.

It is respectful to the site that put effort into the post, especially when that site is ad driven to not steal and plagiarize full text from their stories and just summarize and allow people to go to said site if they so choose.
It is considered the right thing to do.

That argument goes out the window with the misleading title.

I can agree with that

**Lockark**

Galef wrote:
Cosmic Schwung wrote:

Yeah, she was a separate character in that scene. She talks to Cawl whilst the lady in the gown is directing stuff.

Ah, cool, thanks

I'm still thinking Vect is gonna show eventually. I've heard reports of him on a hover craft (Dias) with 2 Incubi body guards
Maybe the Eldar get 4 characters instead of just 3?

If you count the body guards the imperial box was 5 characters. I don't think the Eldar box having to be three models will be a hard rule tbh. People are just assuming it will be.

Just pointing out no reliable rumour monger said to expect a box of three characters as far as I can tell.

**Kanluwen**

Lockark wrote:
Galef wrote:
Cosmic Schwung wrote:

Yeah, she was a separate character in that scene. She talks to Cawl whilst the lady in the gown is directing stuff.

Ah, cool, thanks

I'm still thinking Vect is gonna show eventually. I've heard reports of him on a hover craft (Dias) with 2 Incubi body guards
Maybe the Eldar get 4 characters instead of just 3?

If you count the body guards the imperial box was 5 characters. I don't think the Eldar box having to be three models will be a hard rule tbh. People are just assuming it will be.

Just pointing out no reliable rumour monger said to expect a box of three characters as far as I can tell.

That's a good point. I have a feeling that people got too hung up on the "Triumvirate" part. It's three units. For all we know, the box could be a set of 6+ models.
Eldrad in plastic and a new Warlock Council in plastic on foot(with options for Gyrinx familiars).
Veilwalker
The Archon Aspecty guy. We'll call him Dave for now.

**MrFlutterPie**

I would love it to be Malys, Veilwalker and Yriel as the 3.

I only play clowns so they would all fit for me.

**nagash42**

I'm hoping that the three of them fight the avatar of slaanesh made from that old grey knight at the end.