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2017/01/25 18:57:41
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
Robin5t wrote: I wonder what their advantage would be over normal Guardians, given that the regular type are now WS4 BS4 as well?
Maybe gear? Black Guardian Storm Squads can go full power weapons if they want, for example?
There was nothing really that set them apart beyond the WS/BS and the Webway Strike, Tactical Withdrawal, Light Infantry, and Guardians of Ulthwe special rules for the Ulthwe Strike Force.
Sidenote:
I really hope they bring back the Ulthwe Strike Force army list as a thing. It would go a long way towards producing an Eldar list that both sides of a match might feel is "balanced". Nothing heavier than Vypers and War Walkers because of the Webway Strike, a limitation on Aspect Warriors beyond Dark Reapers, etc.
Yeah, that's why I'm wondering how they're going to stop them from being a redundant choice. They'll probably bring back the special rules in some form, I guess.
I could see the Ulthwe Strike Force getting some interesting special rules relating to their Psykers, but limitations on Wraith stuff.
2017/01/25 19:11:47
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
Kanluwen wrote: Having seen Greyfax in person, she's bigger than you might think. It's a very "closed" pose so she has some breathing room on the sides, but height-wise she is no slouch. Even before the hat gets attached.
Yeah, she's pretty big! In fact I'm assuming he will be around her size or a bit bigger which is why I doubt he'll be on 25mm.
2017/01/25 19:12:50
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
Robin5t wrote: You can see he's on a 32, just compare his base to the Incubi behind him.
I agree he is on a 32, but comparing him to any models in the photo might not be best since there is some distortion there.
I am really intrigues that those Incubi are red, like him
Robin5t wrote: You can see he's on a 32, just compare his base to the Incubi behind him.
I agree he is on a 32, but comparing him to any models in the photo might not be best since there is some distortion there.
I am really intrigues that those Incubi are red, like him
Why, not the first time we've seen red Incubi? The Dark Eldar codex has photos of them in the Kabal of the Flayed Skull colours (dark red and bone).
2017/01/25 20:17:57
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
Robin5t wrote: You can see he's on a 32, just compare his base to the Incubi behind him.
I agree he is on a 32, but comparing him to any models in the photo might not be best since there is some distortion there.
I am really intrigues that those Incubi are red, like him
Why, not the first time we've seen red Incubi? The Dark Eldar codex has photos of them in the Kabal of the Flayed Skull colours (dark red and bone).
But those were obviously not painted by the 'Eavy Metal team though. The DE & GK codex have some off-painted minis in theme.
BloodGrin wrote: I have seen a rumor now floating around that these units with these three benefit from units dying, friend and foe.
HUGE salt, because the person that is saying it I have never heard of.
Link?
Like I said, never heard of the person and have no reason to take it as fact
for same guy on Eldar group (Different answers)
Spoiler:
- For all we k now yet from the WD, Vect disagree with the Yvraine's project of unity and Ynnead awakening. The Covens too, because "dude, necromancy is OUR business !".
- Yvraine, who was a succubus, is killed by Lelith and reborn as the envoy of Ynnead. This cause a disjonction (seriously, again ? xD) and open the Khaine's gate.
- Eldrad is judged on Ulthwe by a concil of farseer for he have tried to awaken Ynnead by himself and without their approval. His judgment is interrupt by the arrival of Yvraine, and then the arrival of some eldar from Altansar (but we don't know at the moment what they'll do).
- For Biel'Tan, this is the wreck of his wraithbone core and the death of his inhabitants that partially awake Ynnead.
- For the Vysarch, it is said that he his some sort of bodyguard (and "more", but it don't said what), that he wear and armor of the ancient eldar beforme the Fall, and that he is a "dead eldar hero resurcted". Did I say that "somebody" died on Iyvanden ?
- On Iyanden "a great hero died while fighting against the chaos forces, but death isn't definitive now...". So, the Visarch IS Yriel.
- Iyanden is attacked by a chaos fleet when Yvraine arrive on board. Iyanden is the last step of her journey, then they'll go on Klaisus meet the survivors of Cadia.
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2017/01/25 20:40:40
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
BloodGrin wrote: I have seen a rumor now floating around that these units with these three benefit from units dying, friend and foe.
HUGE salt, because the person that is saying it I have never heard of.
Link?
Like I said, never heard of the person and have no reason to take it as fact
for same guy on Eldar group (Different answers)
Spoiler:
- For all we k now yet from the WD, Vect disagree with the Yvraine's project of unity and Ynnead awakening. The Covens too, because "dude, necromancy is OUR business !".
- Yvraine, who was a succubus, is killed by Lelith and reborn as the envoy of Ynnead. This cause a disjonction (seriously, again ? xD) and open the Khaine's gate.
- Eldrad is judged on Ulthwe by a concil of farseer for he have tried to awaken Ynnead by himself and without their approval. His judgment is interrupt by the arrival of Yvraine, and then the arrival of some eldar from Altansar (but we don't know at the moment what they'll do).
- For Biel'Tan, this is the wreck of his wraithbone core and the death of his inhabitants that partially awake Ynnead.
- For the Vysarch, it is said that he his some sort of bodyguard (and "more", but it don't said what), that he wear and armor of the ancient eldar beforme the Fall, and that he is a "dead eldar hero resurcted". Did I say that "somebody" died on Iyvanden ?
- On Iyanden "a great hero died while fighting against the chaos forces, but death isn't definitive now...". So, the Visarch IS Yriel.
- Iyanden is attacked by a chaos fleet when Yvraine arrive on board. Iyanden is the last step of her journey, then they'll go on Klaisus meet the survivors of Cadia.
Here is the problem.
White Dwarf NEVER puts out that much information.
He is acting like he has the campaign book.
He is trying too hard.
WD would never say that Biel'Tan was destroyed.
It would never say half of this information, it previews the book.
There is too much detail here, real or imagined.
2017/01/25 20:44:59
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
I'd take massive salt with those for now. Seems all over the map but we will know for sure soon enough.
I really hope they don't merge all the eldar personally, but we'll see. Seems odd that Beil Tan would just be gone, he gave very vague info on it. Seems like that would be a massive plot point and not just a hand waive which is why I am a bit skeptical because this is a white dwarf he is alleging this from. Seems like a lot of spoiled plot points for a white dwarf teaser to me.
BloodGrin wrote: I have seen a rumor now floating around that these units with these three benefit from units dying, friend and foe.
HUGE salt, because the person that is saying it I have never heard of.
Link?
Like I said, never heard of the person and have no reason to take it as fact
for same guy on Eldar group (Different answers)
Spoiler:
- For all we k now yet from the WD, Vect disagree with the Yvraine's project of unity and Ynnead awakening. The Covens too, because "dude, necromancy is OUR business !".
- Yvraine, who was a succubus, is killed by Lelith and reborn as the envoy of Ynnead. This cause a disjonction (seriously, again ? xD) and open the Khaine's gate.
- Eldrad is judged on Ulthwe by a concil of farseer for he have tried to awaken Ynnead by himself and without their approval. His judgment is interrupt by the arrival of Yvraine, and then the arrival of some eldar from Altansar (but we don't know at the moment what they'll do).
- For Biel'Tan, this is the wreck of his wraithbone core and the death of his inhabitants that partially awake Ynnead.
- For the Vysarch, it is said that he his some sort of bodyguard (and "more", but it don't said what), that he wear and armor of the ancient eldar beforme the Fall, and that he is a "dead eldar hero resurcted". Did I say that "somebody" died on Iyvanden ?
- On Iyanden "a great hero died while fighting against the chaos forces, but death isn't definitive now...". So, the Visarch IS Yriel.
- Iyanden is attacked by a chaos fleet when Yvraine arrive on board. Iyanden is the last step of her journey, then they'll go on Klaisus meet the survivors of Cadia.
Here is the problem.
White Dwarf NEVER puts out that much information.
He is acting like he has the campaign book.
He is trying too hard.
WD would never say that Biel'Tan was destroyed.
It would never say half of this information, it previews the book.
There is too much detail here, real or imagined.
Agreed, that is more plot points then the last campaign book and he is saying it's from WD
Automatically Appended Next Post: He also made no reference to the imperial alliance. I mean some of the leaked shots show cawl and greyfax with imperial troops so I am sure them as well as abby would have major roles to play. Surely Gathering Storm part 2 is a continuation of part 1.
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Red Corsair wrote: I'd take massive salt with those for now. Seems all over the map but we will know for sure soon enough.
I really hope they don't merge all the eldar personally, but we'll see. Seems odd that Beil Tan would just be gone, he gave very vague info on it. Seems like that would be a massive plot point and not just a hand waive which is why I am a bit skeptical because this is a white dwarf he is alleging this from. Seems like a lot of spoiled plot points for a white dwarf teaser to me.
BloodGrin wrote: I have seen a rumor now floating around that these units with these three benefit from units dying, friend and foe.
HUGE salt, because the person that is saying it I have never heard of.
Link?
Like I said, never heard of the person and have no reason to take it as fact
for same guy on Eldar group (Different answers)
Spoiler:
- For all we k now yet from the WD, Vect disagree with the Yvraine's project of unity and Ynnead awakening. The Covens too, because "dude, necromancy is OUR business !".
- Yvraine, who was a succubus, is killed by Lelith and reborn as the envoy of Ynnead. This cause a disjonction (seriously, again ? xD) and open the Khaine's gate.
- Eldrad is judged on Ulthwe by a concil of farseer for he have tried to awaken Ynnead by himself and without their approval. His judgment is interrupt by the arrival of Yvraine, and then the arrival of some eldar from Altansar (but we don't know at the moment what they'll do).
- For Biel'Tan, this is the wreck of his wraithbone core and the death of his inhabitants that partially awake Ynnead.
- For the Vysarch, it is said that he his some sort of bodyguard (and "more", but it don't said what), that he wear and armor of the ancient eldar beforme the Fall, and that he is a "dead eldar hero resurcted". Did I say that "somebody" died on Iyvanden ?
- On Iyanden "a great hero died while fighting against the chaos forces, but death isn't definitive now...". So, the Visarch IS Yriel.
- Iyanden is attacked by a chaos fleet when Yvraine arrive on board. Iyanden is the last step of her journey, then they'll go on Klaisus meet the survivors of Cadia.
Here is the problem.
White Dwarf NEVER puts out that much information.
He is acting like he has the campaign book.
He is trying too hard.
WD would never say that Biel'Tan was destroyed.
It would never say half of this information, it previews the book.
There is too much detail here, real or imagined.
Agreed, that is more plot points then the last campaign book and he is saying it's from WD
Automatically Appended Next Post: He also made no reference to the imperial alliance. I mean some of the leaked shots show cawl and greyfax with imperial troops so I am sure them as well as abby would have major roles to play. Surely Gathering Storm part 2 is a continuation of part 1.
The boy seems to be responding as he reads it, but massive salt with all of those...
Iyanden is the last step of her journey, then they'll go on Klaisus meet the survivors of Cadia
more:
Sorry, my bad... I just continue to read the WD and no, this is not Yriel... I am disappointed =/
It's just a dire avenger exarch who flew from Biel'Tan for follow Yvraine when she gone to Commoragh, because of love, you know. He became an incubi, then a klaivex, and then the Visarch
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2017/01/25 21:04:40
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
Red Corsair wrote: has anyone seen those bizarre tree like things from the second pic?
Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW in regards to the Blog from the Blood God rumor, I am still banking on Abbs coming back in a new body, it's too convinient to leave the character the entire story revolves around out until the third book, again reminds me of Archaon. I mean why else would Celestine get to stab him through the spine, I bet he has those titanium legs Lt. Dan bragged about to Forrest.
Yup
any guesses?
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BloodGrin wrote: I have seen a rumor now floating around that these units with these three benefit from units dying, friend and foe.
HUGE salt, because the person that is saying it I have never heard of.
Link?
Like I said, never heard of the person and have no reason to take it as fact
for same guy on Eldar group (Different answers)
Spoiler:
- For all we k now yet from the WD, Vect disagree with the Yvraine's project of unity and Ynnead awakening. The Covens too, because "dude, necromancy is OUR business !".
- Yvraine, who was a succubus, is killed by Lelith and reborn as the envoy of Ynnead. This cause a disjonction (seriously, again ? xD) and open the Khaine's gate.
- Eldrad is judged on Ulthwe by a concil of farseer for he have tried to awaken Ynnead by himself and without their approval. His judgment is interrupt by the arrival of Yvraine, and then the arrival of some eldar from Altansar (but we don't know at the moment what they'll do).
- For Biel'Tan, this is the wreck of his wraithbone core and the death of his inhabitants that partially awake Ynnead.
- For the Vysarch, it is said that he his some sort of bodyguard (and "more", but it don't said what), that he wear and armor of the ancient eldar beforme the Fall, and that he is a "dead eldar hero resurcted". Did I say that "somebody" died on Iyvanden ?
- On Iyanden "a great hero died while fighting against the chaos forces, but death isn't definitive now...". So, the Visarch IS Yriel.
- Iyanden is attacked by a chaos fleet when Yvraine arrive on board. Iyanden is the last step of her journey, then they'll go on Klaisus meet the survivors of Cadia.
Here is the problem.
White Dwarf NEVER puts out that much information.
He is acting like he has the campaign book.
He is trying too hard.
WD would never say that Biel'Tan was destroyed.
It would never say half of this information, it previews the book.
There is too much detail here, real or imagined.
same guy...
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2017/01/25 21:21:30
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
well, that page doesn't say much. If it is that Yvraine has numerous souls, and that Exhumed bring conflict wherever they go. And WTF is a Drukhari? New name for DE?
It's a bit weird to post a page that say so few things, if all these things are indeed happening.
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lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039
2017/01/25 21:31:29
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
streetsamurai wrote: well, that page doesn't say much. If it is that Yvraine has numerous souls, and that Exhumed bring conflict wherever they go. And WTF is a Drukhari? New name for DE?
It's a bit weird to post a page that say so few things, if all these things are indeed happening.
dark elves... druchii.... Dark eldars... Drukhari xD
2017/01/25 21:36:17
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
Crimson wrote: Those leaks are probably legit. It would be super weird to actually have the WD and then lie about what's in it.
Not super weird, super trolly. And totally within the realm of probability. After all, "some men just wanna watch the world burn" And some people just get kicks seeing grown men nerd rage on the interwebz.
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Crimson wrote: Those leaks are probably legit. It would be super weird to actually have the WD and then lie about what's in it.
I think he is taking things and trying to read between lines.
Much like people swore that Fenris was going to be blown up and Logan killed all from a quote from a novel that was in the WD.
I also do not know if he is native French speaker or if he is google translating it which would amplify the issue.
I do not feel he feels that he is lying, he is telling what he gets from small details.
Does not make them correct, just his take and input.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
streetsamurai wrote: I guess they are. It starting to seems more and more plausible that 8th editoon wil indeed AOSify 40k :/
Is there an anti exalt option?
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2017/01/25 21:51:13
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
If what he,s saying is true, isn't there not some frighteningly similar ressemblaces to the end time ? He might be lying, cause the extract he posted don't contain a lot of info (I'm native french), but if he ain't iy seems that 40K will have a lot more than few cosmetic changes.
I was sure that GW would never go this way with 40k, but I'm starting to have doubts.
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lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039
2017/01/25 21:53:28
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page17 latest info
It's similar because the lore for Fantasy and 40k are so similar. The origin myths - the gods - the eldar/Elves background story. This looks like End Times Fantasy because all the same story beats were ported into 40K from the beginning.
Not really. The Elves story in WHFB wasn't similar at all to the Eldar story (they weren't the one who created Slaanesh, the fall was the cause of a civil war between DE and HE, DE and CE are not mortal ennemies in 40k). Sure there's the whole Chaos thing and the old ones, but beside that, there was a lot of difference between the 2 settings lorewise
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lost and damned log
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