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2018/03/11 10:19:33
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Halfpast_Yellow wrote: Mephrit seems decent but probably not to the level of hype it's getting. It's only really good for Gauss Flayers and Blasters.
As well as anything that gets charged or anything that has Tesla. Going from AP 0 to AP -1 is quite a difference. Makes it easier to kill horde armies. While giving Gauss Blasters -3 AP makes sure that what it shoots at will die.
Halfpast_Yellow wrote: Mephrit seems decent but probably not to the level of hype it's getting. It's only really good for Gauss Flayers and Blasters.
While it may be possible it is over-hyped (heck, we're like cast-aways who have seen the first sign of what may be an airplane in the distance), if you take a look at the math, additional AP value has diminishing returns based on existing AP value.
2018/03/11 10:48:24
Subject: Re: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Video info says it's his codex. But that page is not a photo or a scan. How exactly does he have access to a digital edition already?
Plus, if he/someone had access to the thing, why only leak a single part? Why not answer people's questions about stuff inside with shots of those sections?
No, for me it's far too easy to see this as just a page someone doctored up. If it turns out to be legit later, cool, but right now there's just not enough for me to overcome my warranted skepticism.
2018/03/11 10:49:35
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Halfpast_Yellow wrote: Mephrit seems decent but probably not to the level of hype it's getting. It's only really good for Gauss Flayers and Blasters.
As well as anything that gets charged or anything that has Tesla. Going from AP 0 to AP -1 is quite a difference. Makes it easier to kill horde armies. While giving Gauss Blasters -3 AP makes sure that what it shoots at will die.
One of the better things Tesla has going for it is that is does everything full power at 24" range. Mephrit's bonus adds an element of skornegy. I wouldn't take it for an inconsequential overwatch bonus either.
It is however great for the Gauss Blaster Bikes.
It's pretty much as niche as the others. You can build around delivering Gauss(bikes) into Rapidfire range and bring the hurt, but there's other deals to be found in the leaks too, especially factoring in potential stratagems, traits and relics.
The other element in conflict with Mephrit is that the unique personalities all heavily lean to Sautekh, and you'll probably be slotting Sautekh Battalions to access them, that you'd otherwise be putting your Mephrit Gauss troops into.
Novokh is clearly going to be a favourite for Vanguard/Outrider elements (assuming Canopteks benefit) and Nihilakh is decent for DDAs in Spearheads.
2018/03/11 11:55:12
Subject: Re: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Video info says it's his codex. But that page is not a photo or a scan. How exactly does he have access to a digital edition already?
Plus, if he/someone had access to the thing, why only leak a single part? Why not answer people's questions about stuff inside with shots of those sections?
No, for me it's far too easy to see this as just a page someone doctored up. If it turns out to be legit later, cool, but right now there's just not enough for me to overcome my warranted skepticism.
Fair enough. As with all unofficial sources it comes down to whether you trust your source or not. I trust him since he was credible in the past. Besides i cant see why he would want to destroy his reputation amongst his communtiy.
I think GW provided him with a digital copy, and allowed him to leak this specific page to create buzz, which, looking at the past few pages of this thread, worked quite well.
But until its official, i can completely understand when people remain sceptical.
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2018/03/11 14:10:10
Subject: Re: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Video info says it's his codex. But that page is not a photo or a scan. How exactly does he have access to a digital edition already?
Plus, if he/someone had access to the thing, why only leak a single part? Why not answer people's questions about stuff inside with shots of those sections?
No, for me it's far too easy to see this as just a page someone doctored up. If it turns out to be legit later, cool, but right now there's just not enough for me to overcome my warranted skepticism.
Play testers don't receive physical copies there mate. What is the point in sending a finished print run to someone that is testing the contents?
2018/03/11 14:21:06
Subject: Re: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Video info says it's his codex. But that page is not a photo or a scan. How exactly does he have access to a digital edition already?
Plus, if he/someone had access to the thing, why only leak a single part? Why not answer people's questions about stuff inside with shots of those sections?
No, for me it's far too easy to see this as just a page someone doctored up. If it turns out to be legit later, cool, but right now there's just not enough for me to overcome my warranted skepticism.
It's a controlled leak, he's only allowed to release what he's been told he can release to generate hype. You can choose not to believe us but it's the truth.
2018/03/11 17:06:56
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
My thoughts exactly, a back channel "leak". For instance none of the tau leaks spoiled what the startide nexus is, which is something GW wants to be a suprise (my money is still on a dolmen gate). None of the leaks can substitute for a codex, but there was enough info to get a battlescribe points update done in time for launch.
Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon.
2018/03/11 18:19:05
Subject: Re: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Forgebane goes on preorder Saturday, Codex Necrons goes on preorder on the 24th. Most importantly, the Dynastic Codes have been confirmed to be true.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/03/11 19:08:30
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Wow forgebane got here faster than I thought. Going to have to fight the ebay resellers off with a stick to get a copy though, since the armigers won't get their own release until the knights codex.
Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon.
2018/03/11 19:18:56
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Now that the Dynasty traits are confirmed, we can probably go ahead and start a new thread? We can probably ignore any potential price changes for now and just get to some nifty combos.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2018/03/11 19:55:27
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
I guess we'll wait for Skoffs to send us the link of the new thread. I think we can be proud of the thread we had here. One of the longer ones if I'm not mistaken. And almost fully filled with actual tactics
- Power corrupts, Absolute power.... is a whole lot of fun...-
2018/03/11 20:06:00
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Nagerash wrote: I guess we'll wait for Skoffs to send us the link of the new thread. I think we can be proud of the thread we had here. One of the longer ones if I'm not mistaken. And almost fully filled with actual tactics
I mean we did what we could with the index, but these bonuses alone would be made even the worst index units slightly below mediocrity.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2018/03/11 20:10:08
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Yeah, nothing exciting about the Monolith there. Maybe if it gets a point cut? IDK - the idea that the Tomb World deployment might be the same is depressing. Not putting a plastic bag over my head just yet though, stratagems and whatnot could still help a lot.
He knows that I know and you know that he actually doesn't know the rules at all.
2018/03/11 21:17:14
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
Fenris-77 wrote: Yeah, nothing exciting about the Monolith there. Maybe if it gets a point cut? IDK - the idea that the Tomb World deployment might be the same is depressing. Not putting a plastic bag over my head just yet though, stratagems and whatnot could still help a lot.
It seems odd to me that they didn't fix the Tomb World deployment rules when that was easily one of the most complained about aspects of the Index.
2018/03/11 21:21:03
Subject: Necron 8th Tactica - Unit grading in OP / Nothing more to discuss until leaks
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