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 General Kroll wrote:

Clockpunk wrote:
Worse still, he was ALSO in Gorechosen...

No he wasn't.

What? Of course he was! One of the basic four that comes with the game. Hell, he's on the cover of that game as well.

There's one that came with the WD and is in the SC:KBB box, and then there's another one that's in gorechosen and the WQST:MH expansion (this one). getting it again in a new WQ box would be somewhat annoying, but it's not one and the same model in all four of those boxes

The part of Silver Tower that I'm enjoying is the chance to paint figures from many different factions.

This way, I'm all set when I finally get down to actual units.

We'll see what's what. Less duplicates the better.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Marxist artist wrote:

CMLR wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

CMLR wrote:
1.- Blues, brimestones, deathrunners and suttlings didn't appeared on Silver Tower cover.

So what?

You know what the box art for Silver Tower did include? Four heroes from various factions working to fight a common foe... just like this artwork... and all those minis were in the box.

So what?

Not because they just showed 3 units on the cover ST got only those enemies. To assume that they will only release old models because the cover art is silly.

Again, half of the enemies from Silver Tower didn't appeared on the box art. They wouldn't spoil out eveything the box includes, at least this early.

I agree with you mate, the ones on the cover will be in , but think it's folly to believe there will be no other models in there.

I never said there wouldn't be other models in there.

You guys get how arguments/debates work, right? 'Cause so far you're demonstrating a distinct lack of knowledge/know-how in this particular arena.

Because we disagree with you? Is in essence an argument or debate. All I said was there is likely to be other models in their also . And although likely the box art may not represent the majority of the models or that they are going to put already released models in.
I maybe slightly misunderstood you in that I interpreted that the only models present would be on the box art.
I will call it a debate as its not worth arguing over models.

Anyhow will be looking forward to this immensely.

 General Kroll wrote:

Clockpunk wrote:
Worse still, he was ALSO in Gorechosen...

No he wasn't.

streetsamurai wrote:Damn. Was excited, but now I'm prretty sure it will only be existing minis. Unless the rules for it are excellent (like the original WHQ rules were) this one is a pass


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 General Kroll wrote:
I will be interested to see what they do with this. I always meant to pick up silver tower but never got around to it. The models in that were gorgeous, I would imagine, they would do something similar here. People over reacting about a single image long before this is even released need to calm down somewhat.

Do you really think that they will resculpt all these already existing minis? Cause it's obvious that this illustrations shows the content of the box, much like every board games GW released did.

I'm not going to assume anything at this point. They've said themselves the release is a fair way off. For all we know, the art shown here could be for the tie in app where you add in your existing models, like the one from Silver Tower. For all we know they don't have the sculpts for the new one finalised, or they could be tied in to a big release later in the year that they are keeping under wraps. Like how the Silver Tower stuff all tied into Tzeentch.

On the other hand, this could be a £35 release akin to Lost patrol, and Gorechosen, something to tick us over, and shift slow moving stock, in which case, it's no big deal but still probably going to be a fun game and a cheap way to pick up some great conversion fodder.

So you will forgive me if I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch over a pretty picture that confirms the square root of bugger all.

yeah cause I'm clearly getting my panties in a bunch by pointing out that it seems there will be no new minies

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Marxist artist wrote:

CMLR wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

CMLR wrote:
1.- Blues, brimestones, deathrunners and suttlings didn't appeared on Silver Tower cover.

So what?

You know what the box art for Silver Tower did include? Four heroes from various factions working to fight a common foe... just like this artwork... and all those minis were in the box.

So what?

Not because they just showed 3 units on the cover ST got only those enemies. To assume that they will only release old models because the cover art is silly.

Again, half of the enemies from Silver Tower didn't appeared on the box art. They wouldn't spoil out eveything the box includes, at least this early.

I agree with you mate, the ones on the cover will be in , but think it's folly to believe there will be no other models in there.

I never said there wouldn't be other models in there.

You guys get how arguments/debates work, right? 'Cause so far you're demonstrating a distinct lack of knowledge/know-how in this particular arena.

What debate? You leaved clear that, according to you, a box art has to have all the new models, which is not an actual obligation.

Posted this on the AoS thread but was drowned out by price debate.

Source of box cover art:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nBx2r

The caption on the third picture, "Heroic Dungeon Adventures in the Age of Sigmar," seems to promise more flexibility than Silver Tower, which had said "Heroic Adventures in a Labyrinth of Madness."

In my mind that would suggest a more fleshed-out system with Shadows over Hammerhal than Silver Tower offered.

If GW can improve on the quality of the rules and quests, while maintaining the high quality of the miniatures of ST, they'll really hit it out of the park with this release.

*Here's desperately hoping beyond hope that the miniatures are all new sculpts, even if they match existing heroes and figures.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Posted this on the AoS thread but was drowned out by price debate.

Source of box cover art:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nBx2r

Cheers nice to see a physical copy

Baron Klatz wrote:
Posted this on the AoS thread but was drowned out by price debate.

Source of box cover art:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nBx2r

The rulebook can be seen at the lowest pic and by the looks of it, it seems it will (AT LEAST) be as thick as the GHB (170 pages, twice as much as old Silver tower).

Lord Kragan wrote:

Baron Klatz wrote:
Posted this on the AoS thread but was drowned out by price debate.

Source of box cover art:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nBx2r

The rulebook can be seen at the lowest pic and by the looks of it, it seems it will (AT LEAST) be as thick as the GHB (170 pages, twice as much as old Silver tower).

Where you see that? All I see is a cult mechanicus book

Marxist artist wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

Baron Klatz wrote:
Posted this on the AoS thread but was drowned out by price debate.

Source of box cover art:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nBx2r

The rulebook can be seen at the lowest pic and by the looks of it, it seems it will (AT LEAST) be as thick as the GHB (170 pages, twice as much as old Silver tower).

Where you see that? All I see is a cult mechanicus book

You're right, from afar I confused the magos with the dark aelf fleetmaster

Baron Klatz wrote:
Posted this on the AoS thread but was drowned out by price debate.

Source of box cover art:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nBx2r

Thanks

You're very welcome.

Real credit goes to Lol33ta on Reddit for pointing it out though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/5q82qx/warhammer_quest_shadows_over_hammerhal_by_igor_sid/

@Lord Kragon, Who knows, maybe that is the book with a photoshopped cover to fool us.

NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!

Well, clearly I was wrong. It sucks that there's probably no new minis in it but I'm still looking forward to seeing the contents. Blightkings are IMO one of the best kits they've ever made so that's something.

Wonder what the boss will be?

JSG wrote:
NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!

Well, clearly I was wrong. It sucks that there's probably no new minis in it but I'm still looking forward to seeing the contents. Blightkings are IMO one of the best kits they've ever made so that's something.

Wonder what the boss will be?

Well maybe not many new minis in it?

I hope GW reads this post. You know, I get why GW is releasing a bunch of one-off boxed games with recycled models in order to get people into the hobby. But Silver Tower is seen by many as the descendant and inheritor of Advanced Heroquest. It's not just a one-off game that is going to cycle out of production, and it shouldn't be treated like one. If GW is going to go to all the trouble of resurrecting this style of game, then do it right and give us new miniatures. If you have to give us Blight Kings, give us new ones. Give us Blight kings that make the other ones sad that they weren't in this box. And always include something new, never before seen (Like the Ogre Thamaturge). Then if you want to repackage those later for people who don't play Silver Tower, that's fine. But don't be lazy with this line, do it right. We will be willing to wait for something done right.

Clockpunk wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

Clockpunk wrote:
Worse still, he was ALSO in Gorechosen...

No he wasn't.

What? Of course he was! One of the basic four that comes with the game. Hell, he's on the cover of that game as well.

Errr. No. He wasn't.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Gorechosen-ENG

It was a completely different model that was given away with white dwarf. And it could be a completely different model that's being depicted on this random piece of artwork. It could easily be any old Khorne blood born model.

 General Kroll wrote:

Clockpunk wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

Clockpunk wrote:
Worse still, he was ALSO in Gorechosen...

No he wasn't.

What? Of course he was! One of the basic four that comes with the game. Hell, he's on the cover of that game as well.

Errr. No. He wasn't.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Gorechosen-ENG

It was a completely different model that was given away with white dwarf. And it could be a completely different model that's being depicted on this random piece of artwork. It could easily be any old Khorne blood born model.

Ehm... you know there's two variants, don't you? The one in gore-chosen and the one for white dwarf. Both had already been released.

Warhammer Quest: Shadows over Hammerhall wil be stand-alone boxed game for 2-5 players set in the splendid city of Order – Hammerhall. Up to 4 players can quest in the catacombs and dungeons below the city, while another acts as game master, setting fiendish obstacles, controlling the antagonists (monsters) and setting the story – it’s up to this player to take charge of revealing the secrets each dungeon has to offer.
The game is fully compatible with the Warhammer Quest: Silver Tower game and the Hero Cards. Any miniatures or rules the customer already owns for that game can also be used in this game. In addition, the game has a lot of replay-ability, as character level up and increase their skills as you play.
The box contains 31 miniatures, including:
1x Lord Castellant and Gryph Hound
1x Cogsmith
1x Black Ark Fleetmaster
1x Loremaster
1x Chaos Sorcerer Lord
5x Putrid Blightkings
10x Kairic Acolytes
10x Bloodreavers
1x 72 page guide book
1x 32 page adventure book
18x double sides board sections
55x cards
12x dice
A variety of counters and markers for tracking your heroes as they gain experience and skills under the city of Hammerhall
Approx € 105,- , on sale 25th Feb.


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If it's true there will be a gamemaster i will not buy this game becourse of two reasons:

1. Gamemaster (nobody want to be a gamemaster)
2. No new miniatures.

I generally like to be the game master. It's fun to see the despair on the poor p- er I mean players (yeah) faces.

Ugh. Only 1 vs. many is not a style I was hoping for. Optional would be fine, but, if I want to play a competitive game, I'll play a competitive game, and if I want to play a dungeon crawl, that means co-op.


That's also just a terrible description.

To be this seems like a great way to get minis for small warbands and conversions.

All things I might not buy on their own just for parts or skirmish warbands, But in a bulk discount i'll take it.

I AM PUMPED
Like I mentioned in the other thread, the Putrid Blight Kings were some of the best models I have had the chance to paint. I dont own any of the models in this box other than the Putrids kings and the Blood Reavers, so its a sweet deal for me.

Im excited for the GM rules, I am also going to go out on a limb here but I bet if its compatible with Silver Tower there will be a way to play HammerHal with no GM likes silver tower.

Just realized a couple points of skepticism: there aren't the trio of boss-level baddies (only poss. the sorc lord), another rumor had the slaughterpriest people were misinterpreting listed; the list only contains minis from the cover art.

Are any of these rumors coming from reliable sources?

I don't mind there being a bit of player vs player involved in the game. Honestly it sounds good to me. Granted the models aren't new...but hey they are good models after all. The make it or break it for me is the price of the box.

I do wish there was a couple new heroes at least, I don't think there are enough female characters and variety in the hero models GW has.

I really look forward to seeing the board tiles more than anything.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Just realized a couple points of skepticism: there aren't the trio of boss-level baddies (only poss. the sorc lord), another rumor had the slaughterpriest people were misinterpreting listed; the list only contains minis from the cover art.

Are any of these rumors coming from reliable sources?

Well, MongooseMatt is pretty reliable since he runs his own store. His info will likely have come from GWHQ itself.

 Thargrim wrote:
I don't mind there being a bit of player vs player involved in the game. Honestly it sounds good to me. Granted the models aren't new...but hey they are good models after all. The make it or break it for me is the price of the box.

I do wish there was a couple new heroes at least, I don't think there are enough female characters and variety in the hero models GW has.

I really look forward to seeing the board tiles more than anything.

This is a reliable source: 120 euros, which means you muricans will pay 145 ameribucks.

 Thargrim wrote:
I don't mind there being a bit of player vs player involved in the game. Honestly it sounds good to me. Granted the models aren't new...but hey they are good models after all. The make it or break it for me is the price of the box.

I do wish there was a couple new heroes at least, I don't think there are enough female characters and variety in the hero models GW has.

I really look forward to seeing the board tiles more than anything.

Well, except the Loremaster. Not a fan of the magical energy on his hand. Ahriman's zappy hand looks waaay better. Also, not enough female heroes? There's about 20+ throughout the AoS line if you include the ones you get with stuff like the Mortis engine and Altar of Khaine thing.

Just existing minis? That's a damned shame.