The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17

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**Cosmic Schwung**

Kirasu wrote:
Guilliman crafted his own armor during the Heresy.. so did he wake up and just throw it away? So bizarre they gave him this new armor made by some random mechanicum guy (who apparently was alive in the Heresy.. OBVIOUSLY!)

The story is on par with comic books, which is to say it's fairly terrible and convoluted.

His new armour incorporates some kind of life-support system which he presumably needs to stay alive. Guilliman already knows Cawl, so from his perspective he isn't some random dude.

**ImAGeek**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
That sounds cool, actually. I don't mind him having a variety of weapons, but having a bunch of the same close combat weapon made for him seems redundant, especially when he already has access to firearms and psi powers, as well as an army.

Now, what I could imagine is that he has a bunch of trophies that he accumulated from his conquests. He doesn't really use them, but they could be used as they are still perfectly functioning weapons.

There are lots of types of sword. I really don't find the idea of the Emperor of Mankind having more than one sword being that hard to imagine.

**NivlacSupreme**

Kirasu wrote:
Guilliman crafted his own armor during the Heresy.. so did he wake up and just throw it away? So bizarre they gave him this new armor made by some random mechanicum guy (who apparently was alive in the Heresy.. OBVIOUSLY!)

The story is on par with comic books, which is to say it's fairly terrible and convoluted.

You're pretty mean. I for one like comic books

I might convert Girlyman into the Emperor, now that he's getting rules.

**kronk**

Did they say at the HH weekender when the Emperor is getting rules? Book 8 or 9, maybe?

**Skylifter1000**

Yodhrin wrote:
Davor wrote:
Kirasu wrote:
Guilliman crafted his own armor during the Heresy.. so did he wake up and just throw it away? So bizarre they gave him this new armor made by some random mechanicum guy (who apparently was alive in the Heresy.. OBVIOUSLY!)

The story is on par with comic books, which is to say it's fairly terrible and convoluted.

Or maybe wait for the actual story before complaining? So please tell me what is the explanation? After all the way you are talking you seem to know the answers.

"Man you people are just getting upset over nothing, you'd have to be mental to think GW would blow up a whole setting."

"Jeezo, check out all the Chicken Littles in here - sure, they blew up the setting, but all this 'bubblehammer/realms' stuff can't be right, and even if it is we should give it a chance."

"Alright so the first few novels have been a bit lacklustre and they can't seem to to stop randomly inserting the letter 'y' into things, but it's only been a few months give them a chance."

"OK so this 40K stuff is looking disturbingly familiar and they're using Eldar death magic or somesuch to bring back a Primarch which folk used to semi-jokingly say would be the indicator that GW had finally run out of ideas, but I'm sure if you join me in placing your head inside this lovely sand everything will turn out good in the end."

At some stage giving the benefit of the doubt stops being the rational default position to take.

I just turned my attention back to 40K and I just hope that you are wrong, because I really liked 40K for several decades. What was the bit with inserting 'y' into things about?

**warboss**

kronk wrote:
Did they say at the HH weekender when the Emperor is getting rules? Book 8 or 9, maybe?

Probably the last book in the series along with Superchaosmegazord Horus for the big finale. I can't see forgeworld doing it any sooner. Have they announced the names of the books 8 or 9?

**Looky Likey**

warboss wrote:
kronk wrote:
Did they say at the HH weekender when the Emperor is getting rules? Book 8 or 9, maybe?

Probably the last book in the series along with Superchaosmegazord Horus for the big finale. I can't see forgeworld doing it any sooner. Have they announced the names of the books 8 or 9?

Next book is Angelus and covers:

I think we'll hit the Siege faster than the series takes to finish, they'll just go back and fill in the gaps when they get time. At the weekender they said they'd carry on making the books for as long as people are buying them.

I'm still expecting a 40k end of times, even though they have said it won't be, so I'm still expecting the Emperor to turn up near the end of 40k.

**Ruin**

Yodhrin wrote:
Davor wrote:
Kirasu wrote:
Guilliman crafted his own armor during the Heresy.. so did he wake up and just throw it away? So bizarre they gave him this new armor made by some random mechanicum guy (who apparently was alive in the Heresy.. OBVIOUSLY!)

The story is on par with comic books, which is to say it's fairly terrible and convoluted.

Or maybe wait for the actual story before complaining? So please tell me what is the explanation? After all the way you are talking you seem to know the answers.

"Man you people are just getting upset over nothing, you'd have to be mental to think GW would blow up a whole setting."

"Jeezo, check out all the Chicken Littles in here - sure, they blew up the setting, but all this 'bubblehammer/realms' stuff can't be right, and even if it is we should give it a chance."

"Alright so the first few novels have been a bit lacklustre and they can't seem to to stop randomly inserting the letter 'y' into things, but it's only been a few months give them a chance."

"OK so this 40K stuff is looking disturbingly familiar and they're using Eldar death magic or somesuch to bring back a Primarch which folk used to semi-jokingly say would be the indicator that GW had finally run out of ideas, but I'm sure if you join me in placing your head inside this lovely sand everything will turn out good in the end."

At some stage giving the benefit of the doubt stops being the rational default position to take.

There are no tanks in Baghdad. Nothing to see here, move along.

**gungo**

I forget after the gathering storm rumours what was the next planned campaign? Was it war in the webway or dark angels?
I know the rumours were loose but they have been somewhat accurate so far.

**Pariah-Miniatures**

I don't mind the filigree, I just don't understand:
1) why he has a name tag ( as if a big blue guy isn't the primarch?)

2) why he would have purity seals, pretty sure all primarchs are above and beyond that kind 'gold star/ good grade on the fridge' kinda thing...

It does look like his old suit of armor was heavily modified, extra breastplate and all the life support tubes etc.

So if Celestine gave him her iron halo, does that mean in the 3rd book Celestine has worse saves...?

**davou**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:

1) why he has a name tag ( as if a big blue guy isn't the primarch?)

2) why he would have purity seals, pretty sure all primarchs are above and beyond that kind 'gold star/ good grade on the fridge' kinda thing...

both probably because he didn't make the armor himself; and I bet people helped him to put it on too. They're probably to blame for covering him with stickers

**Theophony**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
I don't mind the filigree, I just don't understand:
1) why he has a name tag ( as if a big blue guy isn't the primarch?)

2) why he would have purity seals, pretty sure all primarchs are above and beyond that kind 'gold star/ good grade on the fridge' kinda thing...

It does look like his old suit of armor was heavily modified, extra breastplate and all the life support tubes etc.

So if Celestine gave him her iron halo, does that mean in the 3rd book Celestine has worse saves...?

1. Even modern military commanders have name tags, if for no other purpose than for the enemy to read who's killing them as they die.
2. During the heresy they were called oaths, and all swore an oath before going into battle and had it mounted to their armor to show their dedication.

**Davor**

*edit* Wrong thread.

**krazynadechukr**

Looky Likey wrote:
warboss wrote:
kronk wrote:
Did they say at the HH weekender when the Emperor is getting rules? Book 8 or 9, maybe?

Probably the last book in the series along with Superchaosmegazord Horus for the big finale. I can't see forgeworld doing it any sooner. Have they announced the names of the books 8 or 9?
Next book is Angelus and covers:

I think we'll hit the Siege faster than the series takes to finish, they'll just go back and fill in the gaps when they get time. At the weekender they said they'd carry on making the books for as long as people are buying them.

I'm still expecting a 40k end of times, even though they have said it won't be, so I'm still expecting the Emperor to turn up near the end of 40k.

I saw that "What's in the book" and heard it in Brad Pitt's voice.... (SE7EN)

**Neronoxx**

Sad to see people bothered so much by something that may not even change how they enjoy the hobby. It's like they need something to complain about.
There are people who want the Primarchs to return.
There are people who do not.
Neither is wrong, neither is right, and both CAN continue to play warhammer as they like, pre or post primarch.

**GoatboyBeta**

MajorWesJanson wrote:

Alternatively, it would be really hard to have a story in which Abbadon has such a central role and not include him in art or photos. If GW is not ready to release or show off a new model, that means the old one has to be used.

The few photos(2 IIRC) showing his model are just generic battle scenes that don't really require his presence, so he could have easily been left out of them. If his new model resembles the current one as much as Kharn and Ahrimans updates did then the art would have been fine. Maybe I'm over analysing things, but I cant help but feel that Abbadon is either getting a different(probably bigger) look or getting killed off.

**krazynadechukr**

Seen these yet?

**Nevelon**

If he was just raised from the near-dead, with techniques that may have has something to do with foul xenos, I think it might be a good idea for the chaplain to stick a “He’s OK” seal on him. Just so the boys in blue know it's legit.

Not that Guilliman needs the approval, but it helps keep the questions away.

**VeteranNoob**

krazynadechukr wrote:
Looky Likey wrote:
warboss wrote:
kronk wrote:
Did they say at the HH weekender when the Emperor is getting rules? Book 8 or 9, maybe?

Probably the last book in the series along with Superchaosmegazord Horus for the big finale. I can't see forgeworld doing it any sooner. Have they announced the names of the books 8 or 9?
Next book is Angelus and covers:

I think we'll hit the Siege faster than the series takes to finish, they'll just go back and fill in the gaps when they get time. At the weekender they said they'd carry on making the books for as long as people are buying them.

I'm still expecting a 40k end of times, even though they have said it won't be, so I'm still expecting the Emperor to turn up near the end of 40k.

I saw that "What's in the book" and heard it in Brad Pitt's voice.... (SE7EN)

@krazynadechukr .. aw man, now I can't get that out of my head!

**Bobthehero**

Considering the amount of Primarch that turned traitor, slapping a ''I'm pure'' sticker might not be a bad idea.

**Nostromodamus**

Bobthehero wrote:
Considering the amount of Primarch that turned traitor, slapping a ''I'm pure'' sticker might not be a bad idea.

"I'm pure, don't worry guys, this new Imperium I'm setting up to be ruled by myself is totes legit, honest."

**Pariah-Miniatures**

Anyone else look at this image as if Cawl came out of the container as a transport? lol.

**Theophony**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:

Anyone else look at this image as if Cawl came out of the container as a transport? lol.

I looked more at the pic and saw Calagar next to RG and wondered how those gauntlets used to fit RG. I know they had been taken off a chaos warrior at some point, but I thought that RG had worn them in the past as well. Maybe they just sat in a display case in his hall of trophies.

**Kirasu**

Bobthehero wrote:
Considering the amount of Primarch that turned traitor, slapping a ''I'm pure'' sticker might not be a bad idea.

The Imperium (Minus the Space Marines and a few others) doesn't even know what a Primarch is at this point anyway, or what the Horus Heresy was in actuality. Knowledge isn't exactly the Imperium's strong suit.

**Dryaktylus**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:

Spoiler:

Anyone else look at this image as if Cawl came out of the container as a transport? lol.

Indeed (so I'm not alone).

Also: everyone has his/her retinue.

Guilliman his chapter.
Celestine her Geminis.
Greyfax her Scions.
Voldus his Grey Knights.
Cawl...

**Theophony**

Dryaktylus wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:

Spoiler:

Anyone else look at this image as if Cawl came out of the container as a transport? lol.

Indeed (so I'm not alone).

Also: everyone has his/her retinue.

Guilliman his chapter.
Celestine her Geminis.
Greyfax her Scions.
Voldus his Grey Knights.
Cawl...

The other two containers didn't open yet

**Kirasu**

Of course, they need every named hero of the imperium in the same spot at the same time.. .to fight a horde of nameless and mostly leaderless CSM!

**Lord Kragan**

Dryaktylus wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:

Spoiler:

Anyone else look at this image as if Cawl came out of the container as a transport? lol.

Indeed (so I'm not alone).

Also: everyone has his/her retinue.

Guilliman his chapter.
Celestine her Geminis.
Greyfax her Scions.
Voldus his Grey Knights.
Cawl...

ATTACK MY BOXES!! Let no one stand in the path of your... rolling. Sort of.

**Davor**

Where is Cypher in that pic then? Would this be after they split separate ways?

**TheDraconicLord**

Kirasu wrote:
Of course, they need every named hero of the imperium in the same spot at the same time.. .to fight a horde of nameless and mostly leaderless CSM!

Boy, you really despise this story arc don't you?

It's a cool moment, a last stand kind of deal, it looks pretty cool! All it's missing is their Eldar friends.