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 Crazyterran wrote:

LightKing wrote:
has there been any spoilers in how Calgar reacts to Roboute's return?

Would Roboute become Chapter Master, bumping Marneus to First Captain?

I wonder if they are going to kill off Agammen, or something.,.

Though i expect a lot of no named Ultramarine characters are going to die, and i dont see Cassius or Tigurius in the previews they showed.

Cassius Just got a new plastic model last year with Death Watch Overkill. I doubt they would kill him off so soon

I think GW is going to kill the Emperor out of spite from the memefication of Trump as the God-Emperor.

He will then be reborn with a new name like....Sigmar and become the Emperor of Gods.

In all seriousness, the IP that is the God-Emperor is probably at risk now.

 Bulldogging wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I definitely do NOT see Guilliman reforming the Legions!

HE is the one that broke them up, after the disaster that was the Horus Heresy.

Yeah I don't see Roboute admitting he fethed up.

But then again this is the Ultramarines, his rerolling 2+plot armor save will protect his decisions.

I am surprised at the odd miniature pose and looks though, especially after how amazing Magnus looks. Definitely looking forward to seeing the Lion though.

After the heresy the ENTIRE Imperium was reorganized to prevent to much power resting in the hands of one group. The breaking of the legions was just one aspect of this. Ever since the Imperium has had to walk the fine line between being too diffuse or too centralized in its structure. Some of the darkest times for the Imperium have arisen from either extreme. There is certainly a lot of bloat that could do with trimming(just like the table top ), but the core structure seems to be fairly sound. The fact that the Imperium has lasted as long as it has should attest to that.

What RG does in the 41st millennium will depend on how much time he's given. The gathering storm series is a major crises that is probably going to take much of his attention and whatever available forces he can lay his hands on. If the background for 8th is set during or just after this event then RG will probably not have had time to make much of an impact on the running or structure of the larger Imperium. If the 8th background, or the event storyline itself has any large time skips then I'd say all bets are off. It could be anything from RG sitting as regent ruling the entire Imperium. To the whole thing breaking apart into civil war with RG being declared a traitor by some and hailed as a savior by others.

 Digclaw wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:

LightKing wrote:
has there been any spoilers in how Calgar reacts to Roboute's return?

Would Roboute become Chapter Master, bumping Marneus to First Captain?

I wonder if they are going to kill off Agammen, or something.,.

Though i expect a lot of no named Ultramarine characters are going to die, and i dont see Cassius or Tigurius in the previews they showed.

Cassius Just got a new plastic model last year with Death Watch Overkill. I doubt they would kill him off so soon

Technically the Cassius in DeathWatch Overkill was a younger version of him self (prior to the Tyranid invasion of MacCragge), even before Cassius got his bionics.

In terms of RG taking over the chapter...after RG made the Index Astartes, did the Primarchs still run their original (much smaller) chapters?

 TheoreticalFish wrote:
My Stupid fan theory is that Robotusen Gingervitus takes one look at the bloated, hypocritical Imperium and goes "Nope".

Gathers all the Astartes (Or maybe just the founding chapters), runs off and starts Imperium Secondus. Civil War II! If Marvel can do it, so can we.

That leaves the Imperial Guard, Sisters, Black Templars and Custodes defending Imperium Primaris.

Severely weakened Imperium, leads to Orks, Tyranids, Tau being more involved and taking advantage.

Fun fun fun

Ultramar secedes and allies with the Tau, as Guilliman sees potential in them.
Railgun grav-predator.
Winning.

Did anyone check out Roboute's leaked rules

HOLY (*#$(*#(


as someone mentioned before its like Marneus Calgar on steroids

LightKing wrote:
Did anyone check out Roboute's leaked rules

HOLY (*#$(*#(


as someone mentioned before its like Marneus Calgar on steroids

Source?

 Verviedi wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Did anyone check out Roboute's leaked rules

HOLY (*#$(*#(


as someone mentioned before its like Marneus Calgar on steroids

Source?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/02/40k-rumors-roboute-guilliman-tidbits.html

Thank you. Now, because it's the taco stand, I'm going to go get my salt containment unit.

Ah BOL(locks)S clickbait at its best. That list isn't even clever, they forgot to give him a 4++ invuln, come on guys.

I also am not suprised that they didn't make him as powerful as Magnus

Daemon Primarchs are still superior to the loyalists i assume?

LightKing wrote:
I also am not suprised that they didn't make him as powerful as Magnus

Daemon Primarchs are still superior to the loyalists i assume?

Don't believe anything put out from BOLS unless they have leaked pics, which generally means they stole it from another site without sourcing them

so i heard a theory, although i don't know how valid it is

What if this isn't the "real" Roboute, but one of Fabius Bile's clone primarchs that he did?

LightKing wrote:
so i heard a theory, although i don't know how valid it is

What if this isn't the "real" Roboute, but one of Fabius Bile's clone primarchs that he did?

Please stop.

LightKing wrote:
so i heard a theory, although i don't know how valid it is

What if this isn't the "real" Roboute, but one of Fabius Bile's clone primarchs that he did?

i so wish this was the case

but its not, we have eldar magic or necron somethings to thank for our Spiritual Leige returning to us.

LightKing wrote:
so i heard a theory, although i don't know how valid it is

What if this isn't the "real" Roboute, but one of Fabius Bile's clone primarchs that he did?

Quality trolling.

ok the Fabius Bile theory is trash..

I do hope though that Roboute is the only loyalist primarch that comes out

it would feel kind of hammy if suddenly all the 7 loyalist primarchs come back

I mainly want Dorn to drop so I can see what he would look like. Hope he has a real stoic pose. Something like Ulric the Slayer, resting his big off chainsword upon a battered building or big alien skull.

The Lion would be cool to see, no idea how he is portrayed but felt the DA have always gone for the more knightly aesthetic so guess he would look cool. Besides the sword Cypher has is badass.

LightKing wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Did anyone check out Roboute's leaked rules

HOLY (*#$(*#(


as someone mentioned before its like Marneus Calgar on steroids

Source?

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/02/40k-rumors-roboute-guilliman-tidbits.html

I'll take unlikely as gak for 500, Alex.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
I mainly want Dorn to drop so I can see what he would look like. Hope he has a real stoic pose. Something like Ulric the Slayer, resting his big off chainsword upon a battered building or big alien skull.

The Lion would be cool to see, no idea how he is portrayed but felt the DA have always gone for the more knightly aesthetic so guess he would look cool. Besides the sword Cypher has is badass.

Dorn would be laying on the ground half dead as a corpse, nearby a new Night Haunter sculpt with Sigsmund in horror.

next primarch has to be the lion i presume?

 IMMORTAN_AL wrote:

LightKing wrote:
so i heard a theory, although i don't know how valid it is

What if this isn't the "real" Roboute, but one of Fabius Bile's clone primarchs that he did?

i so wish this was the case

but its not, we have eldar magic or necron somethings to thank for our Spiritual Leige returning to us.

It's alright....even Necrons and Eldar want to be ultramarines

 Theophony wrote:

 IMMORTAN_AL wrote:

LightKing wrote:
so i heard a theory, although i don't know how valid it is

What if this isn't the "real" Roboute, but one of Fabius Bile's clone primarchs that he did?

i so wish this was the case

but its not, we have eldar magic or necron somethings to thank for our Spiritual Leige returning to us.

It's alright....even Necrons and Eldar want to be ultramarines

And I don't blame them. Ultramar has a great real state value.

Roboute was always the loyal son (except there was that book in the horus series). I don't think he will band the ultramarines back together, but he will IMHO be the leader of the crusade to kick the chaos renegades back to the eye of terror and free Cadia!

GoatboyBeta wrote:


What RG does in the 41st millennium will depend on how much time he's given. The gathering storm series is a major crises that is probably going to take much of his attention and whatever available forces he can lay his hands on. If the background for 8th is set during or just after this event then RG will probably not have had time to make much of an impact on the running or structure of the larger Imperium. If the 8th background, or the event storyline itself has any large time skips then I'd say all bets are off. It could be anything from RG sitting as regent ruling the entire Imperium. To the whole thing breaking apart into civil war with RG being declared a traitor by some and hailed as a savior by others.

But he's going to Terra. With Cypher. This is guaranteed to be awesome.

Also, I hate to break it to you guys, but he's not going to be the only primarch, lol. There's so much foreshadowing on the others. Now that they've unveiled the curtain and shown they're willing to use any deus ex machina to breathe life into this machine, chances are very low that there won't be at least one more at some point.

There's at least 3 candidates, 4 if you count Jaghatai.

 TedNugent wrote:

Also, I hate to break it to you guys, but he's not going to be the only primarch, lol. There's so much foreshadowing on the others. Now that they've unveiled the curtain and shown they're willing to use any deus ex machina to breathe life into this machine, chances are very low that there won't be at least one more at some point.

Trust me, we're acutely aware of that.

LightKing wrote:
next primarch has to be the lion i presume?

Will his fate draws to a conclusion in the Gathering Storm?

LightKing wrote:
ok the Fabius Bile theory is trash..

I do hope though that Roboute is the only loyalist primarch that comes out

it would feel kind of hammy if suddenly all the 7 loyalist primarchs come back

Is this the only post you've made that wasn't a question?

 Theophony wrote:

 IMMORTAN_AL wrote:

LightKing wrote:
so i heard a theory, although i don't know how valid it is

What if this isn't the "real" Roboute, but one of Fabius Bile's clone primarchs that he did?

i so wish this was the case

but its not, we have eldar magic or necron somethings to thank for our Spiritual Leige returning to us.

It's alright....even Necrons and Eldar want to be ultramarines

According to goonbandit resume from Gathering storm II, the Eldar does help to resucitate him because only humans may be a decent ally for the upcoming Chaos threat, and among humans the Emperor-corpse is doomed and only RG may be able to properly unite Mankind.

So it seems to hint RG it's back to be a lil puppet in Eldar true purpouses. (at least until GW want to change it for a twist)

P.S: on a personal note if RG gives the finger to the imperium and try to start a new imperius secundus i totally see him joinning the Tau race as their Ideals and common goal seems pure and similar to what the emperor achieved.

Lord Perversor wrote:


P.S: on a personal note if RG gives the finger to the imperium and try to start a new imperius secundus i totally see him joinning the Tau race as their Ideals and common goal seems pure and similar to what the emperor achieved.

The Emperor still distrusted aliens, and I can't see the ethereal caste agreeing to letting such a powerful empire run by such a dangerous, willful individual such as RG into the Tau empire without a way to ensure obedience. At best, a pragmatic peace treaty could be arranged while the Tau Empire and Imperius Secondus accomplished other things. I would rather they didn't however, since I prefer my "there is only war" grim dark setting to remain that way and not turn into super-friends.