The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17

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**GodDamUser**

guru wrote:
pic related

Spoiler:

Holy Terra
The capital World of the Imperium of Man, where the Emperor resides on the Golden Throne. It's a stagnant world of misery, suspicion, suffering and fear. It's a soul-crushing experience for Guilliman.

That image has made a mate of mine happy..

He is getting back into 40k and Red Corsairs is the army he has chosen so hopefully a nice formation or two will be in it for him

**TomWB**

I was very surprised to find that Roboute Guilleman was sculpted by Seb Perpet in the new white dwarf. He's an excellent sculptor!

Then I saw this transformation in the painting guide, where you can see how some bizarre choices about the paint scheme take a perfectly noble Primarchial visage, and turn it into angry Joffrey Baratheon...

**ProtoClone**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Captain Azrael wrote:
JustaerinAtTheWall wrote:
I feel like revealing Cypher's identity would be a major mistake for GW. He'd still be a super-dope gunslinging BA, but the mystery behind his being is gone. I don't think he's gonna be revealed, and to make Guilliman Emperor is rediculous. The moment any one of his brothers return, they will challenge his given position and another civil war will erupt. Besides, the Big E is the icon of the Imperium and to remove him like that will spark a lot of hate from fans imo.

I agree, how I think it will go down for the Emperor part - Emps will make Guilliman Lord Commander of the Imperium and give him full control like he had before. Then Cypher will kill him ,initiating the Star Child prophesy. So Guilliman will rule only until Emperor returns to lead them again.

But my bigger qeustion is -

Spoiler:

why they cannot simply remove poison form Guilliman's body is the rumor about him staying in the armor is true?

casvalremdeikun wrote:

Spoiler:

Isn't the poison daemonic poison from Fulgrim? I imagine it is much more complicated than that.

As possibly non-nonsensical as it was, I think I preferred it when Guilliman was healing in stasis, somehow.

Maybe it was one of his secret Primarch powers - super (slow) regeneration?

And that is fine too. Perhaps the wound healed but the poison is still present?

Maybe like a Tony Stark type thing?

Poison is still there but the new machine has the power to only stall its progression?

**Rubenite**

TomWB wrote:
I was very surprised to find that Roboute Guilleman was sculpted by Seb Perpet in the new white dwarf. He's an excellent sculptor!

Then I saw this transformation in the painting guide, where you can see how some bizarre choices about the paint scheme take a perfectly noble Primarchial visage, and turn it into angry Joffrey Baratheon...

Holy moly. Great spot with this - his face is actually an excellent sculpt. That makeup though...

Looking forward to seeing how Duncan's face ends up in the painting guide. "Apply the lipstick, eyeshadow and blusher in two thin coats rather than one thick one..."

**Davor**

Captain Azrael wrote:
JustaerinAtTheWall wrote:
I feel like revealing Cypher's identity would be a major mistake for GW. He'd still be a super-dope gunslinging BA, but the mystery behind his being is gone. I don't think he's gonna be revealed, and to make Guilliman Emperor is rediculous. The moment any one of his brothers return, they will challenge his given position and another civil war will erupt. Besides, the Big E is the icon of the Imperium and to remove him like that will spark a lot of hate from fans imo.

I agree, how I think it will go down for the Emperor part - Emps will make Guilliman Lord Commander of the Imperium and give him full control like he had before. Then Cypher will kill him ,initiating the Star Child prophesy. So Guilliman will rule only until Emperor returns to lead them again.

But my bigger qeustion is -

Spoiler:

why they cannot simply remove poison form Guilliman's body is the rumor about him staying in the armor is true?

My guess is

Spoiler:

Just a guess have no idea how they are going to do it.

**commander dante**

Davor wrote:
Captain Azrael wrote:
JustaerinAtTheWall wrote:
I feel like revealing Cypher's identity would be a major mistake for GW. He'd still be a super-dope gunslinging BA, but the mystery behind his being is gone. I don't think he's gonna be revealed, and to make Guilliman Emperor is rediculous. The moment any one of his brothers return, they will challenge his given position and another civil war will erupt. Besides, the Big E is the icon of the Imperium and to remove him like that will spark a lot of hate from fans imo.

I agree, how I think it will go down for the Emperor part - Emps will make Guilliman Lord Commander of the Imperium and give him full control like he had before. Then Cypher will kill him ,initiating the Star Child prophesy. So Guilliman will rule only until Emperor returns to lead them again.

But my bigger qeustion is -

Spoiler:

why they cannot simply remove poison form Guilliman's body is the rumor about him staying in the armor is true?

My guess is

Spoiler:

When Gulliman is taken out of statis he dies instantly but is then revied, but since he is a Primarch it takes more to revive him, not so easy to do so that is why he needs his Darth Vader armour to keep him alive.

Just a guess have no idea how they are going to do it.

Excessive Praying to the Emperor

Like always...

**Verviedi**

Triaros Conveyor, you say?

**Pariah-Miniatures**

Lol guy liner and lip gloss

**reds8n**

https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1784249325229032/?type=3&theater

**Joyboozer**

Well, anyone else just add Voldus to their deadpool?

**Kid_Kyoto**

So is this the last volume? Seems like this dang storm's been gathering forever!

**Lord Kragan**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is this the last volume? Seems like this dang storm's been gathering forever!

Three months. Too long for actual storms... then again. I highly doubt a regular storm would blow planets or rain down plastic.

**casvalremdeikun**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So is this the last volume? Seems like this dang storm's been gathering forever!

All of three months is forever? Apparently this is the last volume of the Gathering Storm. But rumors have been that Gathering Storm is part one of a three part macro-series, with each part having three parts to it. I don't see that happening though.

**BrianDavion**

Joyboozer wrote:
Well, anyone else just add Voldus to their deadpool?

I dun no but if he's specificly noted as the mighiest psyker of the Grey Knights that IS intreasting, that proably makes him a contender for mightest Psyker in the Imperium (other then ya know the emperor) will be intreasting to see his stats. I kinda hope GW avoids making him ML4 though

**Captain Azrael**

About the image above - is he talking about Draigo?

**casvalremdeikun**

BrianDavion wrote:
Joyboozer wrote:
Well, anyone else just add Voldus to their deadpool?

I dun no but if he's specificly noted as the mighiest psyker of the Grey Knights that IS intreasting, that proably makes him a contender for mightest Psyker in the Imperium (other then ya know the emperor) will be intreasting to see his stats. I kinda hope GW avoids making him ML4 though

If they make the Mightiest Psyker of a Chapter of Mightiest Psykers ML3, that would be pretty frickin' stupid, wouldn't it? Unless he gets some sort of weird combination of Tigurius's and Loth's special rules, or never perils like Magnus, he will probably be ML 4.

**BrianDavion**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Joyboozer wrote:
Well, anyone else just add Voldus to their deadpool?

I dun no but if he's specificly noted as the mighiest psyker of the Grey Knights that IS intreasting, that proably makes him a contender for mightest Psyker in the Imperium (other then ya know the emperor) will be intreasting to see his stats. I kinda hope GW avoids making him ML4 though
If they make the Mightiest Psyker of a Chapter of Mightiest Psykers ML3, that would be pretty frickin' stupid, wouldn't it? Unless he gets some sort of weird combination of Tigurius's and Loth's special rules, or never perils like Magnus, he will probably be ML 4.

I dunno the Grey Knights are mighty sure, but there's no proof that their most powerful would BE the most powerful, I agree likely ML4 though, still I could see him being a bit like Tigerous in that "yeah sure I'm only ML3 but I have some special rules that make me arguably better then ML4"

**Imateria**

ProtoClone wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Captain Azrael wrote:
JustaerinAtTheWall wrote:
I feel like revealing Cypher's identity would be a major mistake for GW. He'd still be a super-dope gunslinging BA, but the mystery behind his being is gone. I don't think he's gonna be revealed, and to make Guilliman Emperor is rediculous. The moment any one of his brothers return, they will challenge his given position and another civil war will erupt. Besides, the Big E is the icon of the Imperium and to remove him like that will spark a lot of hate from fans imo.

I agree, how I think it will go down for the Emperor part - Emps will make Guilliman Lord Commander of the Imperium and give him full control like he had before. Then Cypher will kill him ,initiating the Star Child prophesy. So Guilliman will rule only until Emperor returns to lead them again.

But my bigger qeustion is -

Spoiler:

why they cannot simply remove poison form Guilliman's body is the rumor about him staying in the armor is true?

casvalremdeikun wrote:

Spoiler:

Isn't the poison daemonic poison from Fulgrim? I imagine it is much more complicated than that.

As possibly non-nonsensical as it was, I think I preferred it when Guilliman was healing in stasis, somehow.

Maybe it was one of his secret Primarch powers - super (slow) regeneration?

And that is fine too. Perhaps the wound healed but the poison is still present?

Maybe like a Tony Stark type thing?

Poison is still there but the new machine has the power to only stall its progression?

If they wanted it to make some kind of sense then it would be a case of them having removed the poison but the damage done was incurable, hence the need for a life support system in his armour.

**Kanluwen**

Captain Azrael wrote:
About the image above - is he talking about Draigo?

No.

It's someone talking about Voldus.

**Vash108**

Only going to have the cash for either the book or the models this month. I am kind of torn because I really want both.

**casvalremdeikun**

Vash108 wrote:
Only going to have the cash for either the book or the models this month. I am kind of torn because I really want both.

I would go models. That way you can have them built and painted by the time you get the book that allows their use.

**LightKing**

reds8n wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1784249325229032/?type=3&theater

so he's more powerful than Draigo huh

**Bull0**

TomWB wrote:
I was very surprised to find that Roboute Guilleman was sculpted by Seb Perpet in the new white dwarf. He's an excellent sculptor!

Then I saw this transformation in the painting guide, where you can see how some bizarre choices about the paint scheme take a perfectly noble Primarchial visage, and turn it into angry Joffrey Baratheon...

Oh man, I got such a laugh from this, thanks.

**Lanlaorn**

As a psyker, apparently yes, fighting in the trenches against a demon horde, probably not.

**LightKing**

I do believe that this will all lead into the 8th edition......Guilliman assuming commander of the Imperium and launching a new crusade

as for Cypher killing the Emperor it remains to be seen

**Davor**

Verviedi wrote:Triaros Conveyor, you say?

Spoiler:

For a second I thought that was a Genestealer L.I.M.O.

**Prodigalson**

I am interested to see how Cypher and the Fallen angels interact with the rest of the imperium in this. Also, is Cypher is now hanging with the new 'Emperor' where does that put the Dark Angels? I hope that there is some form of resolution there. I have been meaning to start a 30K Dark Angels army this year and now it looks like they might bleed over to 40K as well. Nice.

**Vash108**

Prodigalson wrote:
I am interested to see how Cypher and the Fallen angels interact with the rest of the imperium in this. Also, is Cypher is now hanging with the new 'Emperor' where does that put the Dark Angels? I hope that there is some form of resolution there. I have been meaning to start a 30K Dark Angels army this year and now it looks like they might bleed over to 40K as well. Nice.

Maybe they will form a new chapter all togehter

**Bull0**

Darker Angels

**angelofvengeance**

I think we'll see legions coming back.