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LightKing wrote:
If i order the book right now and it says it comes out March 11

I wont get it until March 17th, because GW only delivers on Friday?

is this correct?

its my first time ordering from the GW website?

Any time I pre-order something, I tend to receive the item on the Thursday following release. E.G. I pre-ordered Shadows over Hammerhal on 2/18, I received it on 3/2. It may depend on where you live in the country (Texas here).

 Gamgee wrote:
I told you the Tau great crusade was coming.

Help a guy at work out; is that what the facebook video was?

 davou wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I told you the Tau great crusade was coming.

Help a guy at work out; is that what the facebook video was?

No. It's Gamgee being Gamgee.

Someone showed me the gs3 dramatis personae. It doesn't show Abbaddon. So that guys rumors are all bs. Aw for a second there I was excited to see a ig soldier shoot Abbaddon and the Tau stuff.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
No Custodes rules in the book despite two of them being named in the dramatis personae section? I thought there would be at least a reprint of the WD/website rules. Are GW really leaving them as esentially a 30k only faction, or are they holding them back for next edition?

The Black Templar character didnt get rules either, nor did the rest of the Chapter (other than being able to be taken in Castellans Force Org) despite them featuring heavily thus far so I dont know why you're surprised that things featured aren't getting rules.

Outside of the two triumvirate sets, nearly all the named characters in the series dramatis personae so far either already have specific rules or can easily be represented using unit entries from there respective codex's(with the possible exception of Vect). Any new SC or units, like the Black guardians have had there rules in the books. So I'm a bit surprised that the Custodes would seem to feature so prominently without any rules outside of a pdf on the GW website and a WD from several months ago.

Really I just what to have some idea of what, if anything GW prime are going to do with the Custodes and SoS

Edit- For home delivered pre orders I usually get them the Tuesday or Wednesday after the release date.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Witch Hunter adversaries were way cooler.

True. I used the rules for my Genestealer Cult. Well, the actual Witch Hunter rules too. And the latter also for Adeptus Mechanicus (+ Space Marines or IG). The book was a godsend for my niche armies.

Can Roboute be transported in a Drop Pod? That'd be a pretty fun and fluffy tactic (and a good way of compensating for his slow speed) dropping a Primarch in the middle of your opponents army.

What is he, a Monstrous Creature? Extremely Bulky?

If that's possible, might just start Ultramarines for that and go with an all Drop Pod army.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Can Roboute be transported in a Drop Pod? That'd be a pretty fun and fluffy tactic (and a good way of compensating for his slow speed) dropping a Primarch in the middle of your opponents army.

What is he, a Monstrous Creature? Extremely Bulky?

If that's possible, might just start Ultramarines for that and go with an all Drop Pod army.

Only super heavies can transport a Monstrous Creature, counts as 10 models.
And yes he is a Monstrous Creature.

Lets hope a Superheavy drop pod is on the way then.

Can Roboute at least Deep Strike on his own, or is footslogging your only option?

is there a SHV version of the LR from FW?

No but he could hop into a Stormlord.

 Quickjager wrote:
No but he could hop into a Stormlord.

or a thunderhawk, IIRC you could load a thudnerhawk up with Gulliman and 10 terminators, nice and fluffy

 Kanluwen wrote:

 davou wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I told you the Tau great crusade was coming.

Help a guy at work out; is that what the facebook video was?

No. It's Gamgee being Gamgee.

Hopefully Roboute wipes the Tau out and they are squated for 8th and only get legacy rules like Tomb Kings.

I, personally hope that Farsight kicks Guilliman's ass, and the Imperium gets squatted. Both scenarios are equally likely to occur.

 Verviedi wrote:
I, personally hope that Farsight kicks Guilliman's ass, and the Imperium gets squatted. Both scenarios are equally likely to occur.

Not really. The former shoving a Crusade down the throat of the Tau Empire is likely, and would utterly annihilate them. Bringing the might of the Imperium to bear on that tiny portion of the universe is basically taking a comically large hammer and smashing an angry ant.

Not likely!

But, in the meantime, let's just focus on "The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch"...

Has this image been posted already?

nope, we've had all the info reported, nice to get a 100% confirm on that though

So now where's the photo of Cyphers rules?

I, for one, am reeling from the revelation that this image confirms the controversial choice of Toughness 6 for a monstrous creature.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I, for one, am reeling from the revelation that this image confirms the controversial choice of Toughness 6 for a monstrous creature.

Aren't most MC's T6?

also he is still hard to kill even if you do down him

GodDamUser wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I, for one, am reeling from the revelation that this image confirms the controversial choice of Toughness 6 for a monstrous creature.

Aren't most MC's T6?

also he is still hard to kill even if you do down him

intreasting despite his stats being said as "6 across the board" his WS looks to be a 9

GodDamUser wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I, for one, am reeling from the revelation that this image confirms the controversial choice of Toughness 6 for a monstrous creature.

Aren't most MC's T6?

Sheesh.

BrianDavion wrote:

GodDamUser wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I, for one, am reeling from the revelation that this image confirms the controversial choice of Toughness 6 for a monstrous creature.

Aren't most MC's T6?

also he is still hard to kill even if you do down him

intreasting despite his stats being said as "6 across the board" his WS looks to be a 9

I find it kind of weird that they bumped him to have WS9 base considering his heresy-era stats had him at WS7 (it increased while in combat but that actually makes sense given his analytical nature). Guilliman wasn't a pushover when it came to combat but he certainly wasn't renowned as a duelist like some of the other Primarchs were.

I guess within the context of 40k though, WS inflation is much more rampant.

WS9 and LDSH naturally 10.

 Grimskul wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

GodDamUser wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I, for one, am reeling from the revelation that this image confirms the controversial choice of Toughness 6 for a monstrous creature.

Aren't most MC's T6?

also he is still hard to kill even if you do down him

intreasting despite his stats being said as "6 across the board" his WS looks to be a 9

I find it kind of weird that they bumped him to have WS9 base considering his heresy-era stats had him at WS7 (it increased while in combat but that actually makes sense given his analytical nature). Guilliman wasn't a pushover when it came to combat but he certainly wasn't renowned as a duelist like some of the other Primarchs were.

I guess within the context of 40k though, WS inflation is much more rampant.

Bionic Reflexes???

 Digclaw wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

GodDamUser wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I, for one, am reeling from the revelation that this image confirms the controversial choice of Toughness 6 for a monstrous creature.

Aren't most MC's T6?

also he is still hard to kill even if you do down him

intreasting despite his stats being said as "6 across the board" his WS looks to be a 9

I find it kind of weird that they bumped him to have WS9 base considering his heresy-era stats had him at WS7 (it increased while in combat but that actually makes sense given his analytical nature). Guilliman wasn't a pushover when it came to combat but he certainly wasn't renowned as a duelist like some of the other Primarchs were.

I guess within the context of 40k though, WS inflation is much more rampant.

Bionic Reflexes???

I guess he is the Primarch equivalent of the 6 million dollar man.

"We have the technology"

Jain Zar basically seems like the only remotely safe way to engage him in melee, given all of that counts as one weapon.

 Robin5t wrote:
Jain Zar basically seems like the only remotely safe way to engage him in melee, given all of that counts as one weapon.

Jain Zar will die to the Smash rule. But the Avatar of Khaine is immune to all his attacks in melee.

 Robin5t wrote:
Jain Zar basically seems like the only remotely safe way to engage him in melee, given all of that counts as one weapon.

And even then it's a pretty uphil battle, Guilliman will tank 78% of the wounds, while being wounded only a 30% of the time. Statistically speaking, Jain Zar has a 4.4% chances of wounding. Meanwhile guilliman will cause wounds 41.5% of the time, as his WS is still high enough to hit on 4+ even with the malus, wounds on 2+ and will ignore her armor save as he has smash and AP2 stock on his meelee attacks.

So on a second thought, it's not safe... AT ALL.