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In the end the high entry price is only on one boxed set of multiple ways into the new game. There's no pressure to get it and chances are that many people will build up to what is in the starter kit over time.

I'm sure some will get it if its $5000 a box. The point is if the steepest discount they have ever given still puts it at a price point that large numbers of people pass. Then the individual components will also be a pass. I can afford the box, hell i can afford a couple, and I think I'm not above the median income for this hobby. But I look at the box and think, that isn't worth $250 or $300. I've talked to 90ish percent of the 40k crowd at the local store. Most of them are of the opinion heck that looks cool. If its $150 or so I'll pick it up, if its $200 I'll think about it, if its over that I'll just keep playing 40k.

Well, the knight price at least is 33% more restrained than I expected it to be...

Wouldn’t have killed them to make it a 5 pack with some space for the two sprues to breathe and hold a few alt weapons for £30 though.

Those "Big value" box are GW-branch product. AT is a FW-branch product,

Changing the Brand Name doesn't make it a better value. They are still mass produced plastic kits not cast Resin.

Just seen a site now selling grand master at £153 after discount, up for pre order

 Formosa wrote:
Just seen a site now selling grand master at £153 after discount, up for pre order

Yeah my local store has just put the info out for pre orders(just the info though you can't pre-order till the 11th). Here its £148 or lower if you have enough store loyalty points saved up. I think I'm still gonna go all in and get the big box and the civitas sector.

The amount of buildings in the GME looks measly, just 4 on the contents picture posted on the community site. Is that all we're getting?

https://images.beastsofwar.com/2018/08/Adeptus-Titanicus-Grand-Master-Edition-Contents-Games-Workshop.jpg

 JoyrexJ9 wrote:
The amount of buildings in the GME looks measly, just 4 on the contents picture posted on the community site. Is that all we're getting?

https://images.beastsofwar.com/2018/08/Adeptus-Titanicus-Grand-Master-Edition-Contents-Games-Workshop.jpg

It was confirmed earlier in the thread as being 8 sprues worth of terrain. For comparison, this set is 4 sprues:


The large box is 16 sprues. I'm not sure if the GME picture just has the buildings stacked higher, or if there's some terrain removed to get everything in the photo.

 xttz wrote:

 JoyrexJ9 wrote:
The amount of buildings in the GME looks measly, just 4 on the contents picture posted on the community site. Is that all we're getting?

https://images.beastsofwar.com/2018/08/Adeptus-Titanicus-Grand-Master-Edition-Contents-Games-Workshop.jpg

It was confirmed earlier in the thread as being 8 sprues worth of terrain. For comparison, this set is 4 sprues:


The large box is 16 sprues. I'm not sure if the GME picture just has the buildings stacked higher, or if there's some terrain removed to get everything in the photo.

8 sprues is more like it, hopefully they just didn't put them all in that photo

These buildings from Laser Cut Card would do the trick, but even then, $185 for a titan? Yeah, no.

 JoyrexJ9 wrote:
The amount of buildings in the GME looks measly, just 4 on the contents picture posted on the community site. Is that all we're getting?

https://images.beastsofwar.com/2018/08/Adeptus-Titanicus-Grand-Master-Edition-Contents-Games-Workshop.jpg

Yeah it doesn't really look like a lot. Maybe enough to set up a partial los block in the middle of the board and few bits for knights to hide behind. That's why I'm picking up the sector civitas box, hopefully that'll give me enough to set up multiple los blocking buildings and hopefully have a little of scatter to block movement and offer cover for knights to move around the board a bit.

Anybody know if there is info out there for future terrain releases yet or is this all we'll be getting for a while?

 xttz wrote:

8 sprues is more like it, hopefully they just didn't put them all in that photo

They're all there just stacked up a little higher the easiest way is to count the wider base building sections and there's 4 in the picture.

 Sasquatch wrote:

 JoyrexJ9 wrote:
The amount of buildings in the GME looks measly, just 4 on the contents picture posted on the community site. Is that all we're getting?

https://images.beastsofwar.com/2018/08/Adeptus-Titanicus-Grand-Master-Edition-Contents-Games-Workshop.jpg

Yeah it doesn't really look like a lot. Maybe enough to set up a partial los block in the middle of the board and few bits for knights to hide behind. That's why I'm picking up the sector civitas box, hopefully that'll give me enough to set up multiple los blocking buildings and hopefully have a little of scatter to block movement and offer cover for knights to move around the board a bit.

Anybody know if there is info out there for future terrain releases yet or is this all we'll be getting for a while?

At the very least FW have some 2'x2' realm of battle boards planned, plus a large train terrain piece. These will almost certainly expensive resin, though.

However I think this Civitas terrain works out at a bit better value than 40k. The 8 sprues in the GME box is enough for 1v1 warlord fights to start with, while adding the large bundle box gives you enough to cover a standard 4'x4' table for the price of one large 28mm Sector Mechanicus kit. I can't see many people needing more than that unless they start using a larger board.

 JoyrexJ9 wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 JoyrexJ9 wrote:
The amount of buildings in the GME looks measly, just 4 on the contents picture posted on the community site. Is that all we're getting?

https://images.beastsofwar.com/2018/08/Adeptus-Titanicus-Grand-Master-Edition-Contents-Games-Workshop.jpg

It was confirmed earlier in the thread as being 8 sprues worth of terrain. For comparison, this set is 4 sprues:


The large box is 16 sprues. I'm not sure if the GME picture just has the buildings stacked higher, or if there's some terrain removed to get everything in the photo.

8 sprues is more like it, hopefully they just didn't put them all in that photo

If you count the terrain sprues in the unboxing video there are 4 large ones and 4 small ones. Seems 50% of what you'll get in the civitas imperialis sector set. The one pictured here is the small set, 2 large and 2 small sprues only.

Yup just watched the unboxing video, and they say there arec8 sprues of terrain. They then take 8 sprues out of the boxes so it is definitely correct. Strangely the official picture only shows six sprues worth of terrain.
There should be 8 buttresses but there are only six visible.

Prices from a UK site.

(all of those are discounted prices, not just the grandmaster box in case anybody gets confused)

Yeah the RRP is in there too, but you might miss it
The GME is £175

My FLGS is doing it for under £165 but not as low as listed above, oh well

To me, the grand master box is a very missed opportunity.
We passed months of teasing about this game, about the big bad box, the saving of it, and then just 6 days before the release we get that price.

I know that the grand master is not technically a starter set, but seriously people... this should be a good way to introduce new people to the game, to gain new fresh blood to hook: all that I see is a innacceptable price tag that will discourage a lot of people, and then the game will risk to flop.
I'm very disappointed: I trusted this to be my summer project, but if they think that they can shoot up a price like that because we are near the release and so people are crazily hyped maybe I'm not their kind of costumer, and I will not partecipate in any kind of products tied with this new game system.

Sigh....I'm hoping they use a closer to real exchange rate for the box but it's unlikely. At that point it's cheaper to buy it full price from the UK and have it shipped than to buy it at discount in the US. Guess we'll see.

No thank you.
I can buy an entire historical army for less.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Sigh....I'm hoping they use a closer to real exchange rate for the box but it's unlikely. At that point it's cheaper to buy it full price from the UK and have it shipped than to buy it at discount in the US. Guess we'll see.

I doubt it. Earlier I worked out the difference between the UK and Australia prices to see if it was possible to send cheap boxes to people in Oz and split the money saved. Unfortunately the shipping cost for a box of that size is virtually the same as the money you'd save! GW are definitely extracting the maximum markup their pricing, and I doubt North America is any different.

orsonero wrote:
To me, the grand master box is a very missed opportunity.
We passed months of teasing about this game, about the big bad box, the saving of it, and then just 6 days before the release we get that price.

I know that the grand master is not technically a starter set, but seriously people... this should be a good way to introduce new people to the game, to gain new fresh blood to hook: all that I see is a innacceptable price tag that will discourage a lot of people, and then the game will risk to flop.
I'm very disappointed: I trusted this to be my summer project, but if they think that they can shoot up a price like that because we are near the release and so people are crazily hyped maybe I'm not their kind of costumer, and I will not partecipate in any kind of products tied with this new game system.

I think there's a lot to be said for splitting the GME box with friends or on ebay. Knowing about upcoming releases how many people really want to own 2 Warlords as opposed to getting Reavers / Warhounds / other Knight variants? Plus if you're on a budget or have terrain at a local store / club, why keep the stuff in the box?

If you can pick up the big box for about £150 with discount and sell on the buildings and a Warlord, you still have the start of a decent army for under £100.

Sigh....I'm hoping they use a closer to real exchange rate for the box but it's unlikely. At that point it's cheaper to buy it full price from the UK and have it shipped than to buy it at discount in the US. Guess we'll see

Only GW won't let us order from the UK.

Well it's flying away on the facebook group I use (note the price doesn't include postage), many ordering multiples

Model Kits for Less

Adeptus Titanicus - Grand Master Edition £175 GBP
MJR Price £129.50 GBP PLUS Post of Choice due 18/08/18


SMALL print - GW If your customers are all-in and want to buy it all in one go, then your customers should consider the Grand Master Edition, BUT - We only have very limited quantities of this product. Talk to your regional account manager for more information - Have emailed the guy, as not picking up his phone, Will do VERY BEST for people., But , may be LIMITED in what we get - Fingers Crossed

ValentineGames wrote:
No thank you.
I can buy an entire historical army for less.

Yup. I'm pricing up two full armies for Lion Rampant at the moment - together they should cost me aroud £80 or so. Kind of puts it all in perspective!

orsonero wrote:
To me, the grand master box is a very missed opportunity.
We passed months of teasing about this game, about the big bad box, the saving of it, and then just 6 days before the release we get that price.

I know that the grand master is not technically a starter set, but seriously people... this should be a good way to introduce new people to the game, to gain new fresh blood to hook: all that I see is a innacceptable price tag that will discourage a lot of people, and then the game will risk to flop.
I'm very disappointed: I trusted this to be my summer project, but if they think that they can shoot up a price like that because we are near the release and so people are crazily hyped maybe I'm not their kind of costumer, and I will not partecipate in any kind of products tied with this new game system.

I think you are creating a bit of a false narrative here. If you think the box is too expensive that's fine. I agree with you, but there has been no jacking up of the prices. They have delivered exactly what they promised. It is GW's most expensive box and the savings amount to the cost of the second Warlord. All the individual components are priced very much in line with other similar GW products. The Warlord is between a redemptor and a Knight in size and has been priced accordingly. The rules pack with its extra card terminals, and the sprue of plastic bits is a bit expensive but in line with other GW releases of a similar nature.

Personally I will probably start in September by picking up a Reaver to paint and then see how it goes from there.

$280 is a fething joke. I’ve gone from “I’ll take two” to “hell no” with this release.

Justyn wrote:

Sigh....I'm hoping they use a closer to real exchange rate for the box but it's unlikely. At that point it's cheaper to buy it full price from the UK and have it shipped than to buy it at discount in the US. Guess we'll see

Only GW won't let us order from the UK.

Meh, there are ways around it honestly. Granted I may just not get the grandmaster at this point and will get individual items. I'll plan once I see how it breaks out. But I won't be pre-ordering based on the released pricing like I would have if I could have gotten for sub-$200 after discount.

I'd also like to point out that GW is actually looking at being cheaper than the metal underground alternatives that are out there right now Epic. Especially since these models, while slight big, will fit in fine with Epic.

On the bright side I may have saved some money. Maybe they'll sell Reavers in pairs, like Helverins, and I can hopefully get an online discount. So a Warlord, two reavers, and some warhounds, over time might not feel so bad. It's not like I was planning on playing the game.


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Chikout wrote:

orsonero wrote:


Personally I will probably start in September by picking up a Reaver to paint and then see how it goes from there.

Yeah, something along those lines for me too.

Like many greybushes, I was really excited when they announced AT, since Epic was my favorite game when I got into this hobby around 2nd Edition 40K and 4th edition WHFB. But this price point is a little ridiculous. Factoring in a 20% discount from an online reseller (or are they capped at 15% now?), that's still $224 freedombux for the boxed set. I mean, that's the cost of a new processor for my computer, and I know which of those two things i'll ultimately get the most usage out of.

I don't think this is going to be DoA like Dreadfleet was, simply because it's more of a known IP and not a half assed attempt at a Man'O'War revival. I'm sure this is still going to sell very well, since there are a lot of people like me in their late 30's who are professionally and financially secure and won't bat an eye at the purchase price, but I really think this price is going to force the fence sitters like me into the "Don't Buy!" side of the yard. I will still probably collect a Warlord to go with my Vanguard miniatures Imperial Guard army, but I can't see myself ever playing this game. Which is a shame, as I would have like a giant robot game that was a cross between Battletech (big warmachines slugging away at one another) and Star Fleet Battles (power allocation and such).

I wonder if it makes sense to find a buddy and split the purchase price and the box contents? If $280 is too much for any one person, maybe $140 is a more reasonable ask for 1 Warlord, 3 Knights and 4 sprues of terrain. Thoughts?

I'm out.

Seriously, I thought I was being slightly pessimistic thinking it would be £150 before discount, which was my personal line in the sand.

Oh well, that's a bunch of budget freed up for other things I guess!

 Nostromodamus wrote:
$280 is a fething joke. I’ve gone from “I’ll take two” to “hell no” with this release.

Ugh.

Is that what £175 equals in GW Conversion Fantasy land in US$ - $280?

It should be closer to $225 - and I'd 'give' them a little flexibility to go up to $250 to account for...fluctuations.

But $280?

I've gone from "I'll take two!" to maybe "I'll take one...I guess?" to "I hope that I can find someone else local to get a game in with." all in the space of a few hours here...

And YES, I feel for my Australian brothers - this one is going to get priced right out of the stratosphere for them!