GoatboyBeta wrote:
Really looking forward to the Reaver. Thanks to pocket money constraints I never got one the first time around. I may have to overcompensate this time

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Ugly Green Trog wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I'd expect warhound at 2 for $75 with probably all 4 weapons for each, and $65 to $75 for the reaver with 3 or 4 arm weapons and apoc carapace mount

I hope I'm not imagining it but does that piece in the bottom left look like the muzzles of a carapace mounted mega bolter?

No, that's the back exhausts of the apoc missile launcher.

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Ugly Green Trog wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I'd expect warhound at 2 for $75 with probably all 4 weapons for each, and $65 to $75 for the reaver with 3 or 4 arm weapons and apoc carapace mount

The reaver sprue is already out there. 2 guns, Gatling Blaster and Laser Blaster. 1 Power Fist with option for close and open palm.

I hope I'm not imagining it but does that piece in the bottom left look like the muzzles of a carapace mounted mega bolter?

No, that's the back exhausts of the apoc missile launcher.

Mendi Warrior wrote:

 Ugly Green Trog wrote:

Chopstick wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I'd expect warhound at 2 for $75 with probably all 4 weapons for each, and $65 to $75 for the reaver with 3 or 4 arm weapons and apoc carapace mount

The reaver sprue is already out there. 2 guns, Gatling Blaster and Laser Blaster. 1 Power Fist with option for close and open palm.

I hope I'm not imagining it but does that piece in the bottom left look like the muzzles of a carapace mounted mega bolter?

I am afraid that part is only the back of the missile pod.

Aww that's a shame!

BrianDavion wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Really looking forward to the Reaver. Thanks to pocket money constraints I never got one the first time around. I may have to overcompensate this time

... you're buying a titan legion aren't you?

GoatboyBeta wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Really looking forward to the Reaver. Thanks to pocket money constraints I never got one the first time around. I may have to overcompensate this time

... you're buying a titan legion aren't you?

Well there arm weapons don't have magnet holes. So what other choice do I have? Although IIRC there is no minimum or maximum size for what counts as a Legio. So even one god engine is enough if your going for homebrew.

Mendi Warrior wrote:


I actually did, it is a couple of pages ago (page 96), also the Stratagems and Objectives a little bit later. The additional card pack is Warlord only.

Spoiler:

Based on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yRMR_TPx0M and https://imgur.com/a/bRn55Re I compiled a list of the weapons cards in the Rules Set box (and GME as well)

Warlord

Warlord Arm - Arioch Titan Power Claw
Warlord Arm - Belicosa Volcano Cannon
Warlord Arm - Belicosa Volcano Cannon
Warlord Arm - Belicosa Volcano Cannon
Warlord Arm - Belicosa Volcano Cannon
Warlord Arm - Macro-Gatling Blaster
Warlord Arm - Mori Quake Cannon
Warlord Arm - Sunfury Plasma Annihilator

Warlord Carapace - Apocalypse Missile Launcher
Warlord Carapace - Apocalypse Missile Launchers
Warlord Carapace - Paired Gatling Blasters
Warlord Carapace - Paired Laser Blasters
Warlord Carapace - Paired Turbo Laser Destructors
Warlord Carapace - Vulcan Mega-Bolter Array

Reaver

Reaver Arm - Laser Blaster
Reaver Arm - Gatling Blaster
Reaver Arm - Melta Cannon
Reaver Arm - Reaver Titan Chainfist
Reaver Arm - Reaver Titan Power Fist
Reaver Arm - Volcano Cannon

Reaver Carapace - Apocalypse Missile Launcher
Reaver Carapace - Turbo Laser Destructor
Reaver Carapace - Vulcan Mega-Bolter
Reaver Carapace - Warp Missile Support Rack

Warhound

Warhound Arm - Inferno Gun
Warhound Arm - Plasma Blastgun
Warhound Arm - Turbo Laser Destructor
Warhound Arm - Vulcan Mega-Bolter


Similar exercise for the Stratagems & Objectives Cards, there are 24 of them. Due to light reflection on the cards, I am less confident I got all right, one is quite unreadable. This said, this would compile as follows:


24 Stratagems & Objectives Cards

Mission Objectives

Vital Cargo
Hold The Line
Engage & Destroy
Glory & Honour
Retrieval

Stratagems (aka Tricks & Tactics)

Thermal Mines
Sabotage
Outflank
Voidbreaker Field
Outflank
Noble Sacrifice
Thermal Mines (??? barely readable due to light reflection, not sure at all it is another Thermal Mines)

Ranged Support

Artillery Bombardment
Blind Barrage
Orbital Lance Strike

Battlefield Assets (for which there are models as well in both the GME and Rules Set)

Command Bastion
Communications Relay
Void Shield Relay
Plasma generator
Apocalypse Missile Strongpoint
Macro Cannon Battery

Tertiary Objectives

Cripple The Foe
A Score To Settle
Decapitating Strike


Sounds good fun and lots of possibilities

The description for the Warlord weapons card pack lists 26 cards:

- 2 carapace mounted bolter array cards;
- 2 carapace mounted paired turbo laser destructor cards;
- 2 carapace mounted paired laser blaster cards;
- 2 carapace mounted paired gatling blaster cards;
- 2 carapace mounted apocalypse missile launcher cards;
- 4 arm mounted Belicosa volcano cannon cards;
- 4 arm mounted Sunfury plasma annihilator cards;
- 2 arm mounted Mori quake cannon cards;
- 3 arm mounted Arioch Titan power claw cards;
- 3 arm mounted macro-gatling blaster cards.

BrianDavion wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Really looking forward to the Reaver. Thanks to pocket money constraints I never got one the first time around. I may have to overcompensate this time

... you're buying a titan legion aren't you?

Well there arm weapons don't have magnet holes. So what other choice do I have? Although IIRC there is no minimum or maximum size for what counts as a Legio. So even one god engine is enough if your going for homebrew.

well the fluff talks about 200+ sized legions given what they've mentioned about "titan fall" my gut feeling is legions by 40k are proably only liker 20 god machines or so.

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

BrianDavion wrote:

 schoon wrote:

Mendi Warrior wrote:
Pure speculation: a FW titan drop pod model? One for warhounds, one for reavers? Stretching it, one for knights?

While I haven't seen the rules yet, given what I've read in the BL books, I'd say this is unlikely.

Titans don't just hop out of drop pods, ala Space Marines.

he likely used drop pods to simplify, remember the post we're getting the term drop pods from Also refered to someone getting "clan ER Large lasers" obviously he didn't mean literally

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

give it a rest.

 Kirasu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

give it a rest.

I apologize if proper lore offends you.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Really looking forward to the Reaver. Thanks to pocket money constraints I never got one the first time around. I may have to overcompensate this time

 xttz wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Really looking forward to the Reaver. Thanks to pocket money constraints I never got one the first time around. I may have to overcompensate this time

This was always my dream as kid, but I could never afford more than one.


Guess what happens next month!

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

give it a rest.

I apologize if proper lore offends you.

Proper lore doesn't offend me, but it sounds like any new lore offends you. take the ranting about Cawl (show us on the doll where he touched you) to an approperate thread. I'm getting tired of hearing of people ranting about it. Mostly people whom haven't read the limited and still developing lore that is out there. Frankly if you're expecting good writing go do yourself a favor and stop playing Warhammer, it's pulp.

JWBS wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

give it a rest.

I apologize if proper lore offends you.

Proper lore doesn't offend me, but it sounds like any new lore offends you. take the ranting about Cawl (show us on the doll where he touched you) to an approperate thread. I'm getting tired of hearing of people ranting about it. Mostly people whom haven't read the limited and still developing lore that is out there. Frankly if you're expecting good writing go do yourself a favor and stop playing Warhammer, it's pulp.

I tend to agree that a good percentage of 40K fluff these days is trash. I still remember reading on a forum somewhere about Necrons teaming up with my beloved Blood Angels (I wasn't even into the hobby at that time but still found it offensive). I won't bore you with my negative opinion on BL, except to say that many of their "Top talent" seem to write about 5 books a year, and it really shows (that it's terrible, and that people will still buy it). To be fair I'm really not in the age demographic for BL "Novels" now, but having said that, a lot of the old (GW) stuff still holds up, and a lot of the new and newish stuff is also fantastic (my favourites being the =][= 54mm rulebook, such a great book overall for fluff and writing, and Liber Chaotica, among others). I hope they put some decent people on AT. I really enjoyed Abnett's take on it (BL book called "Titanicus").

 Yodhrin wrote:

JWBS wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

give it a rest.

I apologize if proper lore offends you.

Proper lore doesn't offend me, but it sounds like any new lore offends you. take the ranting about Cawl (show us on the doll where he touched you) to an approperate thread. I'm getting tired of hearing of people ranting about it. Mostly people whom haven't read the limited and still developing lore that is out there. Frankly if you're expecting good writing go do yourself a favor and stop playing Warhammer, it's pulp.

I tend to agree that a good percentage of 40K fluff these days is trash. I still remember reading on a forum somewhere about Necrons teaming up with my beloved Blood Angels (I wasn't even into the hobby at that time but still found it offensive). I won't bore you with my negative opinion on BL, except to say that many of their "Top talent" seem to write about 5 books a year, and it really shows (that it's terrible, and that people will still buy it). To be fair I'm really not in the age demographic for BL "Novels" now, but having said that, a lot of the old (GW) stuff still holds up, and a lot of the new and newish stuff is also fantastic (my favourites being the =][= 54mm rulebook, such a great book overall for fluff and writing, and Liber Chaotica, among others). I hope they put some decent people on AT. I really enjoyed Abnett's take on it (BL book called "Titanicus").

Don't mind BD, most folk are capable of grasping that these sorts of remarks are the lore-nerd equivalent of gallows humour and that just because we find a lot of the modern material questionable doesn't mean we literally sit around all day waving our fists at the heavens and cursing the studio writers, and that our dislike of something isn't a personal assault against anyone who does like it or doesn't care.

Of course, I disagree on the above remarks - Cawly Sue wouldn't just bumpull eleventy-bajillion Titans out of his shed, they'd be Primarititans, better than your blase normie Titans in every way and also cooler and betterer and they'd beat up your dad as well

 Yodhrin wrote:

JWBS wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
One of the largest Legios during the Heresy was around 176 engines... so 200+ seems a bit much considering the breakup of much of the Imperium's armed forces into smaller units after the Heresy. Not to mention the difficulty in building new Titans. Of course, this doesn't take into account MarySue Cawl who can probably build thousands of Titans in a few days.

give it a rest.

I apologize if proper lore offends you.

Proper lore doesn't offend me, but it sounds like any new lore offends you. take the ranting about Cawl (show us on the doll where he touched you) to an approperate thread. I'm getting tired of hearing of people ranting about it. Mostly people whom haven't read the limited and still developing lore that is out there. Frankly if you're expecting good writing go do yourself a favor and stop playing Warhammer, it's pulp.

I tend to agree that a good percentage of 40K fluff these days is trash. I still remember reading on a forum somewhere about Necrons teaming up with my beloved Blood Angels (I wasn't even into the hobby at that time but still found it offensive). I won't bore you with my negative opinion on BL, except to say that many of their "Top talent" seem to write about 5 books a year, and it really shows (that it's terrible, and that people will still buy it). To be fair I'm really not in the age demographic for BL "Novels" now, but having said that, a lot of the old (GW) stuff still holds up, and a lot of the new and newish stuff is also fantastic (my favourites being the =][= 54mm rulebook, such a great book overall for fluff and writing, and Liber Chaotica, among others). I hope they put some decent people on AT. I really enjoyed Abnett's take on it (BL book called "Titanicus").

Don't mind BD, most folk are capable of grasping that these sorts of remarks are the lore-nerd equivalent of gallows humour and that just because we find a lot of the modern material questionable doesn't mean we literally sit around all day waving our fists at the heavens and cursing the studio writers, and that our dislike of something isn't a personal assault against anyone who does like it or doesn't care.

Of course, I disagree on the above remarks - Cawly Sue wouldn't just bumpull eleventy-bajillion Titans out of his shed, they'd be Primarititans, better than your blase normie Titans in every way and also cooler and betterer and they'd beat up your dad as well

 Yodhrin wrote:


Of course, I disagree on the above remarks - Cawly Sue wouldn't just bumpull eleventy-bajillion Titans out of his shed, they'd be Primarititans, better than your blase normie Titans in every way and also cooler and betterer and they'd beat up your dad as well

 xttz wrote:
Hoping someone with the rules can answer a couple of questions to get us back on topic:

How many other weapon cards are doubled or quadrupled up like the Warlord's default weapons? I'm particularly looking at the Warhound here, as that cards supplied could indicate how many of each weapon come in the kit.

How does building Knight units work? Their command terminal says 120pts + weapons, but it's not clear if that's per Knight or for the starting number of 3. Also there aren't any points listed for the weapons shown.
Can Knights mix and match options (such as all three with battlecannons & chainsword, or even double battlecannons), or are they fixed to what's in the kit?

 xttz wrote:
How many other weapon cards are doubled or quadrupled up like the Warlord's default weapons? I'm particularly looking at the Warhound here, as that cards supplied could indicate how many of each weapon come in the kit.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Alternatively the upgrade sprues will be mixed media, and contain the relevant cards for the included weapons.

Wouldn't normally expect it, but looking at the way it's been presented, where the rules aren't just a book but contain the game aids etc, vs the usual way you buy GW games (either it's all in the starter or you buy the rules and any accessories you want all separately) it might just be possible.