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 Mysterio wrote:
£35 *should* be $45, but I know GW has its own math when it comes to conversion rates.

What does GW think £35 converts to for US$?

Well £35 is the price of a box of Intercessors, and the US store says $60 for a box of those.

 Mysterio wrote:
£35 *should* be $45, but I know GW has its own math when it comes to conversion rates.

What does GW think £35 converts to for US$?

Based on Reavers being 35 UK and 60 US I'd say 60.

*sigh* - decent price on the Reaver, but looks like I may have to wait a week or two before I can pick one up.

On the Reaver weapon cards - is it the same ones that come in the rules pack or are they somehow different?

I guess they will be for the same weapons already in the GME/Rules set but with different numbers of each.

Ah, so GW *thinks* the exchange rate is at 1.7 when it is actually at 1.3.

OK!

Ah, so GW *thinks* the exchange rate is at 1.7 when it is actually at 1.3.

Nah they just think you are too stupid or lazy to care. Since they still sell very well in the US they are apparently correct.

 Mysterio wrote:
Ah, so GW *thinks* the exchange rate is at 1.7 when it is actually at 1.3.

OK!

To be fair, that works the same way with a lot of companies. When we buy US and Asian goods in the UK, quite often the GBP price is very close to the USD price despite the exchange rate difference. That was even the case a few years ago, when the difference was much larger.

tneva82 wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Regarding the fluff, what more do you want from the beginning rule book? It details the crusade, the discovery of the legions, the diaspora and the founding of new Forge Worlds, and the narrative scenarios themselves are fluff; part of the background of the Heresy, ‘historical’ depictions of ‘actual’ events.
It also has those neat snippets from the rise of a Princeps from Warhound pilot all the way to commencement speaker for the graduating class of their branch of the collegiate titanica, which presumably makes her at least princeps seniores, but maybe princeps maximus.

What it feels like to be crew of titan so it's not just nameless robot firing at another robot.

I wish they would use more extracts from their own novels....

 xttz wrote:

 Mysterio wrote:
Ah, so GW *thinks* the exchange rate is at 1.7 when it is actually at 1.3.

OK!

To be fair, that works the same way with a lot of companies. When we buy US and Asian goods in the UK, quite often the GBP price is very close to the USD price despite the exchange rate difference. That was even the case a few years ago, when the difference was much larger.

Apple products are a case in point, they're grossly overpriced in the UK compared to the US cost. (And just grossly overpriced ...)

Apple products are a case in point, they're grossly overpriced in the UK compared to the US cost. (And just grossly overpriced ...)

Yeah Apple products are notorious for this. There is a thriving secondary market that purchases in the US and sells in other countries.

Justyn wrote:

Ah, so GW *thinks* the exchange rate is at 1.7 when it is actually at 1.3.

Nah they just think you are too stupid or lazy to care. Since they still sell very well in the US they are apparently correct.

I'm sure you meant 'you' in the general sense, and not the specific here.

Anyway, I'll see if I can find a way to get these in £'s somehow...

richstrach wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 Mysterio wrote:
Ah, so GW *thinks* the exchange rate is at 1.7 when it is actually at 1.3.

OK!

To be fair, that works the same way with a lot of companies. When we buy US and Asian goods in the UK, quite often the GBP price is very close to the USD price despite the exchange rate difference. That was even the case a few years ago, when the difference was much larger.

Apple products are a case in point, they're grossly overpriced in the UK compared to the US cost. (And just grossly overpriced ...)

Most people in the UK don't realize that a surprisingly large part of the reason for that is that the UK retail price includes VAT of 20%. American retail prices as advertised never include sales taxes (probably because they vary not just by state but quite often by city as well).

A Macbook Pro 13" retailing for £1249 in the UK is actually being sold for £1040.83 + VAT of £208.17.
£1040.83 = $1341.97 at today's rate - which is very close to the US price of $1299. It's only a 3.3% exchange rate difference - you wouldn't beat that by much if you were exchanging your own money to USD.




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So the Reaver's retail pricing of £35 is actually £29.17 once you take out the VAT. That corresponds to $37.60 in USD. Basically everyone buying GW from overseas is getting ripped off MUCH more than they think because GW has a fictitious USD/GBP exchange rate of 2:1 and it isn't like they're treating any customers in other countries any better. Even ROW buyers who still buy in GBP no longer get the VAT taken out at checkout (though they used to) - I'm surprised GW hasn't driven ROW buyers to buy in USD even though the product is being shipped from the UK.

American products do this too. one thing to keep in mind is storage costs shippping costs etc are proably higher for GW overseas. they're still ripping folks off but some of the extra money is understandable.

There is of course other matters to consider in the extra/over amount:

• Extra rate obtained is never as good as that listed on International currency exchanges.
• Exchange rate risk
• International shipping
• Risk on losses of product and avoidance of a fluctuating price to consumers
• Import tax on goods
• Local storage and logistics
• Local shipping
• etc.

I appreciate paying what people perceive paying more money for their toys as important but please do consider that international business does come at a premium that will inevitably be reflected in price.

As I say this may be important to the individual but no need to have this repeated ad nausea on every page on every SKU released, it’s a bit dull, almost asinine given the general price point of this line and...it only upsets the Antipodeans.

 notprop wrote:
There is of course other matters to consider in the extra/over amount:

• Extra rate obtained is never as good as that listed on International currency exchanges.
• Exchange rate risk
• International shipping
• Risk on losses of product and avoidance of a fluctuating price to consumers
• Import tax on goods
• Local storage and logistics
• Local shipping
• etc.

I appreciate paying what people perceive paying more money for their toys as important but please do consider that international business does come at a premium that will inevitably be reflected in price.

GW is a completely vertically-integrated company. The cost of a product to them is nowhere near the price at which they sell to the consumers. And if the cost of doing business in international markets were really so high, they would run their business from the UK and use distributors in the US in order to harmonize prices worldwide as much as possible - and the distributors would have the motivation to do this as if it were cheaper to buy direct from the UK then consumers would do that (note we no longer have this option - quite deliberately! - because it WAS cheaper for consumers to buy from UK retailers and GW itself right up until GW closed that option). No, they do what they do because they can - they've chosen to harmonize prices in line with the exchange rate data from 1981, and the people keep buying, so why not?

angryboy2k wrote:

 notprop wrote:
There is of course other matters to consider in the extra/over amount:

• Extra rate obtained is never as good as that listed on International currency exchanges.
• Exchange rate risk
• International shipping
• Risk on losses of product and avoidance of a fluctuating price to consumers
• Import tax on goods
• Local storage and logistics
• Local shipping
• etc.

I appreciate paying what people perceive paying more money for their toys as important but please do consider that international business does come at a premium that will inevitably be reflected in price.

GW is a completely vertically-integrated company. The cost of a product to them is nowhere near the price at which they sell to the consumers. And if the cost of doing business in international markets were really so high, they would run their business from the UK and use distributors in the US in order to harmonize prices worldwide as much as possible - and the distributors would have the motivation to do this as if it were cheaper to buy direct from the UK then consumers would do that (note we no longer have this option - quite deliberately! - because it WAS cheaper for consumers to buy from UK retailers and GW itself right up until GW closed that option). No, they do what they do because they can - they've chosen to harmonize prices in line with the exchange rate data from 1981, and the people keep buying, so why not?

Dude, you're Canadian, why do you act like this is rare, you should be used to it, remember when the USD was lower then the Canadian Dollar? We where STILL paying more for a good many things

BrianDavion wrote:

Dude, you're Canadian, why do you act like this is rare, you should be used to it, remember when the USD was lower then the Canadian Dollar? We where STILL paying more for a good many things

Canada's special because it's one of those places where you buy stuff from overseas and get stiffed worse by your own government than you would have if you'd just sucked it up and bought locally in the first place.
That's why I have a mailbox in Washington...

angryboy2k wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Dude, you're Canadian, why do you act like this is rare, you should be used to it, remember when the USD was lower then the Canadian Dollar? We where STILL paying more for a good many things

Canada's special because it's one of those places where you buy stuff from overseas and get stiffed worse by your own government than you would have if you'd just sucked it up and bought locally in the first place.
That's why I have a mailbox in Washington...

So you can cheat on your taxes?

BrianDavion wrote:

angryboy2k wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Dude, you're Canadian, why do you act like this is rare, you should be used to it, remember when the USD was lower then the Canadian Dollar? We where STILL paying more for a good many things

Canada's special because it's one of those places where you buy stuff from overseas and get stiffed worse by your own government than you would have if you'd just sucked it up and bought locally in the first place.
That's why I have a mailbox in Washington...

So you can cheat on your taxes?

I declare everything when crossing the border, because I was on the naughty list for a while and always got pulled in for secondary inspection. No cheating involved.
There's a tax-free allowance if you stay over 24 hours.

Like all residents of Canada though, I do like to smuggle shoes over. Y'know, scuff 'em up a bit first then just wear them as I travel back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndZySPvCUjM

Price for a Reaver seems very reasonable. Wonder how the Warhounds will compare?

While $60 is too much for me for a Reaver, I can wait for a retailer discount coupled with an eBay coupon (would be around $43 at that point). That, I can stomach.

If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

I think I'm one of the fortunate ones who doesn't like the Warlord Titan...so I'm spared. If it was necessary to play I wouldn't even consider AT --- one of my friends has the game though so I can probably talk myself into a few legit or secondary market Titans and some knights.

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

intreasting to see how points would work there, I can't see to find the points costs for titans anyone know where they are?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

intreasting to see how points would work there, I can't see to find the points costs for titans anyone know where they are?

They are on the command terminals, not the book.

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

Did you mean to write “slightly more than a Warlord”?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

intreasting to see how points would work there, I can't see to find the points costs for titans anyone know where they are?

They are on the command consoles/weapon cards. But Battlescribe now has data files.

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

Light Maniple really appeals to me as a gaming challenge too. Using the Warhounds is easy enough, because they do what they do. But getting the Reaver into a good position to really unleash hell with the freebie shots?

UltraPrime wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

intreasting to see how points would work there, I can't see to find the points costs for titans anyone know where they are?

They are on the command consoles/weapon cards. But Battlescribe now has data files.

Ahh I see it now, am a derp.

Mysterio wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

Did you mean to write “slightly more than a Warlord”?

Mostly depends on where I buy specific things from, but i'm gonna take advantage of one of those ebay sales so in a way...cheaper lol

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
If the reaver is really 60 usd that is actually fine for me. Especially considering discount seller prices. So I could get two of these for slightly cheaper than a warlord. The light maniples now seem like the most cost friendly way to get into the game. So for now i'm considering skipping the warlord, getting 1 reaver and 2 warhounds in october.

Light Maniple really appeals to me as a gaming challenge too. Using the Warhounds is easy enough, because they do what they do. But getting the Reaver into a good position to really unleash hell with the freebie shots?

It's going to be tricky giving the single reaver a good loadout though. 1 reaver, 2 warhounds, and a 6 strong knight banner comes close to 1k points. Having the warhounds equipped solely to strip shields could be tricky cause if you lose the reaver somehow early on then you've got 2 warhounds that can't do enough to compensate.