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 Mysterio wrote:
I'm pretty sure I see it - bottom middle on the third sprue?

I certainly hope it is on there!

Yep, just under the turbolasers.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Oh boy… the ‘arms’ are ball jointed at both ends. So even worse than the Reaver.

No, better than the Reaver. The Reaver has two different kinds of arms. You've got the gun arms, which have the weapon and the upper arm as separate pieces. And you have the power fist, which (when assembled) runs clear from the tip of the weapon to the shoulder. As a result, you can't glue the upper arm pieces on the Reaver if you want to be able to swap in the powerfist. And you also (unless you have a lot of weapons) need to put magnets at the elbow joint between the upper arm and the gun so that you can swap guns in and out when needed (and the need for that will likely grow when the weapon pack for the Reaver gets released).

On the Warhound, every arm will have separate upper arm and weapon pieces. So you can just glue the upper arm into place, and put the magnets at the "elbow" where you connect the gun.

Until something gets added that emulates the Reaver's powerfist, of course...

Part of me wants to say feth it and just have loads of the little things running around but! Life shall find a way!

No doubt that's GW's evil scheme.

Bit weird how warlord was designed for magnets but the other two weren't. One step forward, another back. Hard to imagine they couldn't have come up with design where magnets wouldn't work.

 KiloFiX wrote:
Doesn’t look like they have Mega Bolters do they?

I should add that the barrel array is only probable (rear view as it is) and that there is probably at least one more part (with the ‘elbow’ joint).

Eumerin wrote:

Until something gets added that emulates the Reaver's powerfist, of course...

Incidently wonder why warhounds don't carry fists. Fast mobile fist platform seems like effective route. Loj better than warlord with fist anyway!

they do, I recognise a part of the plastic kit that looks like my resin warhounds mega bolter

Saw the WD page, can confirm 75 usd...so same as armigers. A tad expensive for what is the same amount of plastic as the reaver.

Ah, but there's two things you see and.. er..

$75USD is high, but pretty much what most of us thought GW would do.

Probably 'only' 4 Warhounds for me then.

Stick with a more 'traditional' Maniple of 1 or 2 Warlords, 1 or 2 Reavers and 0 to 4 Warhounds.

 BrookM wrote:
Now let's see how long until they do Ursus claws for the little blighters.

Do you want me to end up with ninety warhounds? Because this is how I end up with 90 warhounds.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Going by the conversations at open days and suchlike, I’d expect weapons, the Titandeath expansion then additional Imperial chassis/variants, Chaos (the Titandeath is around the time - just beforevthe siege of Earth) that obvious Chaos mutations start to become widespread), then Adeptus Titanicus: The Beast Arises introducing Orks then some other supplement later adding Eldar, then potentially Tyranids.

I was just going by how I remember at/epic being released, as well as mentions in white dwarf and other places,
is the titandeath expansion mentioned anywhere?,
as seen it referenced a few times,
but haven't found anything solid or even rumour-filled on it.

White Dwarf has War Hounds at $75
EUR 60
GBP 45

Also, it looks like the arms are on the main frame sprue, not on the weapon sprue

Edit: I missed the earlier report on this thread somehow...

 Thargrim wrote:
Saw the WD page, can confirm 75 usd...so same as armigers. A tad expensive for what is the same amount of plastic as the reaver.

I'm guessing they figured if they made them too cheap all people would ever run is the venator maniple.

Most likely, plus gw figures you get two units instead of one in this kit. The price isn't too bad, but I think i'll stick with 2-4 instead of going up to 6.

 Thargrim wrote:
Most likely, plus gw figures you get two units instead of one in this kit. The price isn't too bad, but I think i'll stick with 2-4 instead of going up to 6.

unless you're planing on playing multiple maniples at once (buying for yourself and a friend or something) you'll never need more then 4.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
Most likely, plus gw figures you get two units instead of one in this kit. The price isn't too bad, but I think i'll stick with 2-4 instead of going up to 6.

unless you're planing on playing multiple maniples at once (buying for yourself and a friend or something) you'll never need more then 4.

Yeah, I just wanted to have a lot of alternate color schemes. Or do 4 in my main legio, and 2 in a legio of the opposite side so I could demo the game with people. Cause I think i'm the only person who picked up this game in my town. At the rate at which I paint things 2-4 is probably more than enough though.

I can live with the price. I'm not happy about it, I was hoping for <£40, but on a cost per Titan basis it runs £22.50 > £35 > £55 so at least it's consistent, you just have to buy the little one in pairs.

But I'm keeping small with this, one Warlord, one Reaver, 2 Warhounds, unless the game explodes locally.

75 is a bit steep, but not surprising. I'm still planning on getting 2 so i can have 4 warhounds and I'll unlikely need any more than that ever.

I'll have to get 2 more warhound panels though - and they're likely to sell a venerator maniple panel pack - but that will give me 2 unneeded warhound panels.

Of course i'll need more than the 4 piddly cards they gave us in the GM box - which will bring the total cost of 4 warhounds up to 12.50 + 75 + 75 + 25 = 187.50.

Maybe i'll just get 1 box..

tneva82 wrote:
Bit weird how warlord was designed for magnets but the other two weren't. One step forward, another back. Hard to imagine they couldn't have come up with design where magnets wouldn't work.

The carapace weapon in the Reaver is designed to use magnets. That ended up causing a minor issue with the missile launcher on my Reaver because I didn't realize until long after the glue had dried that the magnet I installed in my carapace is slightly tilted.

Oops.

It's a minor issue, though, and can be disguised easily enough.

I think the reason why the arm weapons on the Reaver and Warhound don't use magnets is because of the old Forgeworld models. I vaguely remember seeing mention that the model designers for the Reaver had a little extra work because they wanted to include the cables that are on the Forgeworld Reaver, but are a bit small to deal with on the new AT model. My suspicion is that the people designing the AT Reaver and Warhound were a bit too slavish to the original Forgeworld designs, and those designs don't allow for rare earth magnets on the arms at AT2018 scale.

That's purely speculation on my part, of course.

 Thargrim wrote:
Saw the WD page, can confirm 75 usd...so same as armigers. A tad expensive for what is the same amount of plastic as the reaver.

High price because "its two" and come with all the weapon options so they're losing the potential weapon upgrade kit sale.

How popular is this game? I live in area with several game stores and am not really seeing any games played.
The main store I go to isn’t even bothering to stock it, just ordering it in as requested.

Will probably just pick up one box for now, maybe another if I really enjoy the kit.
Until Legio Audax gets rules, then I'll field 10 of the fethers.
Rise, Serigala!

I don't really see how much further they can go with this, besides more knights. Scope seems desperately constrained, wonder how much mileage they will be able to get out of this before it poops out.

Relapse wrote:
How popular is this game? I live in area with several game stores and am not really seeing any games played.
The main store I go to isn’t even bothering to stock it, just ordering it in as requested.

I'd say probably less than BB, but maybe close.
A lot of us are busy building. Game should kick into full swing by January.


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 MajorTom11 wrote:
I don't really see how much further they can go with this, besides more knights. Scope seems desperately constrained, wonder how much mileage they will be able to get out of this before it poops out.

I mean, they've got somewhere like 6 new titan classes to model now. They talked about it at the open week.
All the old variants from epic are just gonna be new titans.
So they have a lot to work with.

Relapse wrote:
How popular is this game? I live in area with several game stores and am not really seeing any games played.
The main store I go to isn’t even bothering to stock it, just ordering it in as requested.

I think it is pretty popular amongs the Titan Owner Club folks.

Relapse wrote:
How popular is this game? I live in area with several game stores and am not really seeing any games played.
The main store I go to isn’t even bothering to stock it, just ordering it in as requested.

That depends on the area. But GME is pretty much sold out so that exceeded GW's expectations.

There's couple issues though for now:

a) titans take up time to assemble and paint as they pretty much are mandatory for subassembly and painting unless you love being sadomasochist. If you are averse for playing with half built and painted models it's going to take up time to get you up to play
b) the slowish release schedule isn't doing favours either. With just warlords and knights it's bit of meh(and no maniple could be played legally). With reavers you can at least do one maniple legally but it's still fairly limited. Now with warhounds coming you finally have all the base titans. But there's STILL weapon packs missing so unless you are willing to go "this warlord has volcano cannon and sunfury, this one has power fist and quake cannon" your options are also very limited. Warlords in one configuration, reaver can have fist or gun as options. Only warhounds have full options.

So it could mean even your area has players but they are either painting or waiting for warhounds(and maybe weapon packs) before they get activated.

Several players here locally. Maybe unrelated but same group also plays 30k.

You might be better off asking shop owner how much stuff gets sold(that's how I found out about players here as well)


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 MajorTom11 wrote:
I don't really see how much further they can go with this, besides more knights. Scope seems desperately constrained, wonder how much mileage they will be able to get out of this before it poops out.

Knights, new titan classes(several which are hinted in fluff), chaos titans, ork gargants, eldar titans, tyranid monsters.

Also titan legion specific parts and maybe units is always option.

Consider this: Battletech has hundreds of mechs. If GW wants they can write even part of that into the world.

As a detail oriented person I still can't stand that they gave the bottom lip of the warhounds mouth/grill a curve. Irked me from the moment I saw it. And no studs on the circular shoulder area. Even though they could fit such tiny detail on the knight kit, why not the warhound too. Also forcing all the chaos bits into the kit means I can't build two of the look I want. None of the artwork in the AT book shows them bearing such chaos iconography until the final days of the heresy anyways. I feel like the warlord will end up being the best kit of the bunch, followed by the reaver. The warhound kit has some aesthetic blunders in terms of accuracy.

In terms of the games popularity it seems very niche. Depending on where you are no one will play it, or there will be several people. I don't think there were any stores in los angeles stocking this game, could be wrong though. This is also the first specialist game to not get an official facebook page. All signs point to GW treating this game like a red head stepchild after a year or two.

The release of this game is the fastest among all Specialists game.

Chopstick wrote:
The release of this game is the fastest among all Specialists game.

I see what ya did there

Neronoxx wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
The release of this game is the fastest among all Specialists game.

I see what ya did there

To be fair, he's not wrong. The Warhounds will complete the four core units just under 2 months from first release. Necromunda still doesn't have all six core gangs out after almost a year, and how many teams did Blood Bowl have after 2 months?