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From the card packs we know that the Warlord is missing four arm weapons and five for the carapace. Given there likely size I wouldn't be surprised to see either the arm options limited to one per frame, or for them to be spread over more than one extra sprue.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

Mendi Warrior wrote:
Gryphonicus transfers spotted by Lady Atia (War-of-Sigmar)

 Sherrypie wrote:
This Thursday there is an hour long talk about latest AT updates on Warhammer TV's twitch stream. I'm curious what they'll be saying about future releases, such as the weapons and Titandeath...

Hi, at what time are they scheduled?

Here ya go

4-5pm UK time, thanks a lot, I just need not to forget like the last time

GoatboyBeta wrote:
From the card packs we know that the Warlord is missing four arm weapons and five for the carapace. Given there likely size I wouldn't be surprised to see either the arm options limited to one per frame, or for them to be spread over more than one extra sprue.

5 for carapace? Paired gatling blasters(these please!), laser blaster, turbo laser destrouctors and vulcan mega bolter(what use for these anyway? I'm struggling to figure when I would want these 20" range ones. 24" is already pretty short!). That's 4.

And yeah 2 frames could be option. I suspect you can't make more than 2 arm weapons per sprue anyway without putting in magnets elsewhere than model was designed to have magnet.

Oops miscounted the cards Yeah four carapace options still to come for the Warlord.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Cables are easy enough to cut and bend. Did it on my Reaver without any hassle.

I'm sure there are also plenty of 3rd party cables out their, made of flexible material too.

Cable? Guitar string

8am Pacific time here in the US. That'll be interesting morning news.

My notes from the stream:

Mostly reviewing the releases to date. Mentioned the Legio Gryphonicus transfers coming soon.

People were panicking about the Warhound not being released cause it wasn't included in the initial model reviews.

More maniples will be coming.

Titandeath will have about 5 new maniples.

Titandeath campaign - Beta-Garmmon near the end of the Heresy. Thousands of Titans committed. Far more Titans during the Great Crusade than during modern 40K as they were well suited to crushing planetary conquest.

Worked together with Black Library establishing the background and events of Titandeath. BL tapped Guy Haley to write the HH novel, Specialist Games gave him the initial background and they had meetings back and forth for integration between the game background and novel. There's a primarch involved!

Imperial Hunters and Nova Guard are the "star" Legios, wanted to focus on ones that existed in the background but hadn't been previously explored in depth.

Imperial Hunters are an Artemis inspired hunter cult, all Princeps are women.

Legio Krytos didn't have a Low Gothic name or color scheme - chose God Breakers cause they wanted something totally metal sounding.

All the core book Narrative missions are from previously published background - no one has found where the ice planet scenario is from yet! Andy challenges people to find it.

Titandeath first of planned/hoped campaign books. Inspired by HH black books but not as large - HH books are very time-consuming. More about 100 pages.

Each focus on a conflict, new Legio rules, etc.

Gryphonics, Godbreakers, Imperial Hunters, Nova Guard and others getting legio rules in Titandeath.

Titandeath campaign system inspired by Planetary Empires campaign.

4 or 5 levels of crew skill, newbie to hard vets.

Some books will have supporting model releases.

"..an entire spectruum of Titans planned".

Light Scout Titan below the Warhound!

A Titan between the Warhound and Reaver, and one between the Reaver and Warlord.

Part of a years long product plan.

AT books can be used to expand setting, taking a passing reference and focusing on it.

Going over why it's set in the HH again. Talking about "Adeptus Titanicus: The Beast Arises" as a way to explore that setting and introduce Orks. *NOT* a hard plan at this point, but just the ways they are leaving themselves to expand.

Announcement on weapon packs "fairly soon/very soon just not quite ready yet".

Ursus Claws will be done at some point, probably as resin.

New person, Blake, just started with Specialist Games this week with his job being making AT upgrades.

Part of the design goal with AT and Necromunda was making a game "as good as you remember it, not necessarily as it was."

Showing off Legio Mortis decals. Holly Goodwin and Dominic Obager doing the color decals. Also include an affilated Knght Household. Malinax on Mortis sheet. Gryphonics has Vyroni.

Future plans for Knights: will be adding more Knights, have ideas for some scenarios/Stratagems for Knight only battles. "20-30 Knights a side." "Andy wishlisting!"

They want to do transfers for all the "main name" Legios, prob 1-2 every few months.

Talking personal hobby projects, Andy working on his Titan maniple, either Furean or Fire Wasps.

Andy collects Emperor's Children in 30K, inspired by an old pic of EC with two Fureuns in the background.

Talking about the history of AT and its design. Tony was the photographer for the original AT products.

Not seeing Lucius pattern Titans happening currently, but encourage conversions. Get the ice cream tubs!

Command Terminals are Andy's favorite new rules element, really reinforces the idea you are command a Titan. Also keeps the board tidy and not cluttered with tokens!

Have talked internally about doing downloadable honor banner images or resin banners (so you can heat them up and bend them).

New upgrades guy already has a "long list" of things to work on.

"Unprecedented" levels of plastic invested in the line already, mix of plastic and resin for future releases.

Titandeath supplement planned to release a month or two after the novel - don't want the supplement to spoil the novel.

So, the news from the stream:

- No set dates, really.
- Lots of wishlisting from Andy going on, they have lots of stuff they'd like to do, like scout titans that are lighter than Warhounds, battle titans between Reavers and Warlords, lighter battle titans and what not.
- They want to make a number of campaign books as supplements, maybe 100 pages each, in the style if not volume of HH Black Books.
- Titandeath is coming, with crunchy campaign rules. Resources and maps mentioned if not confirmed, as were at least five new maniples. Release goes to the next year most likely, as the Titandeath novel comes out in December and the supplement will come out later than that.

All sounds great except weapon packs might be surprisingly far away. I'm dying for them!

tneva82 wrote:
All sounds great except weapon packs might be surprisingly far away. I'm dying for them!

Well, considering GW generally doesn't reveal specific releases that are more than three months out (save for the occasional VERY big tease), that they will have the weapon packs announcement fairly to very soon, Titandeath the novel is December release so the AT supplement is looking to be Jan or Feb, I'd say expect to see the packs come out with the supplement.

Just listened to the Warhammer Live hour-long talk on AT18

Here are my notes (even though I see other notes above - justr to make suer nothing was missed)


- - Titandeath Campaign (next book)

- - Horus Heresy
- - Set in Beta Garmon star cluster
- - Huge Loyalist force gathered - Traitor forces had to respond with equal force
- - Primarchs will be present
- - Guy Haley is writing the novel about this - December 2018 release
- - Will have more Maniple types in it
- - Imperial Hunters (will have all female princeps) & Nova Guard will be there
- - Legio Krytos (Godbreakers) will also be there
- - Will be first of several books - it takes a long time to write these
- - 100 pages
- - Legio Rules for at least those listed above will be in it
- - Full campaign system - roughly based on old Planetary Empires hex set rules
- - New weapon variants & Knights
- - Release "soon" after the novel (early '19?)

- - They have more Titans in the works

- - One scout lighter than Warhound
- - Between Warhound and Reaver
- - Between Reaver and Warlord
- - Between Warlord and Imperator

- - Other books will center on other Titan campaigns
- - Line will expand slowly
- - They have a very long roadmap planned out - out to at least 2020 if sales support it
- - Psi-Titans are in the works
- - Ursus Claws for Warhounds are in the works
- - They created the game as they wished it was in the old AT88 days - including Mars pattern over the more boxy Lucius pattern
- - Decal sheets will have one Legio and one Knight Household
- - They'd like to do mass Knight formations as part of the game - in the future
- - They plan to work their way through all the famous legions
- - Legio Fureans is linked to the Emperor's Children
- - Regarding Lucius Pattern Titans - they do not plan to do these
- - They just hired a new guy for designing Titan weapons, add-ons, etc
- - They will work in both plastic and resin as is appropriate
- - They'll stay in the HH for a long time - something else might be possible, but no plans for now
- - They want AT18 events at Warhammer tourneys

@ Alendrel and schoon thanks for the excellent summary

From what Andy Hoare said during the live feed I understand the following are definitely coming (although no indications as to when):

- psi-titans
- ursus claws

both times he said "of course, we will do" before mentioning psi-titans and ursus claws respectively.

and likely more scenery as well.

With regards to the "all knights", he said this was not the essence of AT but could be fun, envisioning 20-30 knights per side, charging into each other.

For the expansion book(s), he mentionned loads of colour schemes for legios

Fun facts: they saw a spike in FW 40K size titans sales when AT was released

Alendrel wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
All sounds great except weapon packs might be surprisingly far away. I'm dying for them!

Well, considering GW generally doesn't reveal specific releases that are more than three months out (save for the occasional VERY big tease), that they will have the weapon packs announcement fairly to very soon, Titandeath the novel is December release so the AT supplement is looking to be Jan or Feb, I'd say expect to see the packs come out with the supplement.

That would be longer than I hoped for :( Had been hoping warlord on november, reaver on christmas style of pattern. This count-as'ing gets annoying and confusing for me and probably more so for opponent.

I'd happily be wrong - but I suspect if anything was coming in November Andy wouldn't have more forthright with that info.

Mendi Warrior wrote:
With regards to the "all knights", he said this was not the essence of AT but could be fun, envisioning 20-30 knights per side, charging into each other.

Well I have 15 of the buggers and plan to field all in next game

BTW there was presumably zero mention of Legio Victorum? Wonder if they ever GET rules...Would be just like me to fall in love with legion that won't get legion rules Well if there's another legion that encourages long range bombardment(which Victorum seems to prefer) guess I can count-as them.

Fun facts: they saw a spike in FW 40K size titans sales when AT was released

That's weird but good for them.

All I want for my Legio Audax is an all-Warhound maniple and Ursus claws. Legio rules would be great, but at this point even just the maniple would leave me pretty happy.

No, zero mention of Legio Victorum at all.

Maybe they might as some point, my feeling is that they want to explore and expand as much as possible into the Horus Heresy setting which they consider very rich. We'll see, just don't hold your breath.

Mendi Warrior wrote:
No, zero mention of Legio Victorum at all.

Maybe they might as some point, my feeling is that they want to explore and expand as much as possible into the Horus Heresy setting which they consider very rich. We'll see, just don't hold your breath.

Well Legio Victorum is mentioned in regards to Horus Heresy so...

...too bad it's basically "they got nearly annihilated in Mars" level. But then again so did Salamanders, Raven Guard and Iron Hands in Istvaan yet they have their legion rules! Maybe I get lucky.

edit: Wasn't expecting it in first supplement but was just hoping maybe they casually mentioned it off hand as one of the legions they would like to include in future supplements or something like that. Hey one can hope

Titan death sounds great, really looking forward to that. The Imperial Hunters sound interesting, its just a shame that there colour scheme looks so festive

New Titan patterns have been one of my big wish lists for this game ever since it was announced. So I am super excited to see those in the future.

No mention of Mortis rules in Titandeath? Or did I miss it?

Disappointed they're still not ready with the weapon upgrades.

Not particularly enamoured of the idea of scout Titans smaller than the Warhound - the bigger Knight chassis are already blurring the line between Knights and genuine Titan Engines, adding Knight-size Titans as well just makes it worse.

The rest of it sounds great, but unfortunately mostly seems to be "official wishlisting" rather than anything concrete.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
No mention of Mortis rules in Titandeath? Or did I miss it?

I wonder if they intend to release errata for Legio Tempestus's rules stating that actually they apply to Legio Mortis instead. It's messed up that they have no rules for Mortis, and no transfers or decent images of paint schemes for Tempestus.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
No mention of Mortis rules in Titandeath? Or did I miss it?

The Titandeath seminar from February listed ten Legions, including Mortis. I *assume* those will be covered in the book, unless something's changed?

IIRC they have talked before about doing the Imperial precursors to the old Epic Slannesh Knights. The Subjugator and Questor(with a name change ) designs could easily get a bump up from Knight to scout Titan.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
IIRC they have talked before about doing the Imperial precursors to the old Epic Slannesh Knights. The Subjugator and Questor(with a name change ) designs could easily get a bump up from Knight to scout Titan.

Googled for the lazy



Sujugator



Hell Knight

GoatboyBeta wrote:
IIRC they have talked before about doing the Imperial precursors to the old Epic Slannesh Knights. The Subjugator and Questor(with a name change ) designs could easily get a bump up from Knight to scout Titan.

They have indeed. Gorgeous models. Both the Subjugator and Questor were considered light titans back in the days iirc

And these are the most likely designs that will be reverse engineered to reveal their ‘original’ pre-corruption form as Imperial light scout Titans.
Gonna be interesting to see…

It's been a while, but...weren't those Chaos Knights just Chaos versions of...Knights?

Weird that we're getting a class between Knights and Warhounds when that's basically what Knights already are, for the most part?

Despite there close ties, the Knight houses and the Titan legions are separate entities that don't always operate with the support of the other. So I think it does make sense from a background perspective that there would be a muddled overlap between heavy Knights and light scout Titans.

Although I do wonder if FW and GW have one eye on future 40k scale models from this project. Especially for any "smaller" Titanicus units.