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Say something about bad timing! I got good timing. Had been thinking of ordering warlord or two and reaver...

Well you can always do with some more titans ;-)

You lucky thing! That is a fantastic bargin and had I not ordered the hounds I would have gone for that.

Saying that, I hope they do a similar bundle for a Reaver and some Knights...

Meh, I'll wait for the bundle with the better loadout.

Chopstick wrote:
Meh, I'll wait for the bundle with the better loadout.

What loadout you refer? The plasma variant? Apart from subjectivity of that it leaves you issue that no missiles or volcano cannons for that titan then. I prefer the original box as I can then add separate weapon sprue and get all weapons for all titans for maximum flexibility.

I grabbed 24 Knights for Epic for 50% off over black friday but only 2 warhounds. This boxset literally gives me everything else I wanted for actual Titanicus at a solid discount. If this goes to retailers for an even better discount then I'm getting one.

So if understanding correctly this would have the battlegroup priced at £100 for £140 in value, which is a 28.6% discount. Not bad. Eagerly awaiting more battlegroups with different loadouts.

Mendi Warrior wrote:
So if understanding correctly this would have the battlegroup priced at £100 for £140 in value, which is a 28.6% discount. Not bad. Eagerly awaiting more battlegroups with different loadouts.

Don't hold your breath though. These are likely part of GW's christmast deals so a) available only for a while b) next one will be on next christmast earliest.

And for above person yes fairly likely this will be on 3rd parties like all other christmast deals. What IS interesting is that GW made christmast deal for AT. Not that common for non-40k/FB/AOS to get christmast deal box.

tneva82 wrote:


Price of warlord and reaver, get pair of warhounds for free.

Tempting. Very tempting. Was needing 2nd warlord for Mortis anyway and not like reavers and warhounds are ever bad thing either.

mm so tempting - might have to get that

tneva82 wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Meh, I'll wait for the bundle with the better loadout.

What loadout you refer? The plasma variant? Apart from subjectivity of that it leaves you issue that no missiles or volcano cannons for that titan then. I prefer the original box as I can then add separate weapon sprue and get all weapons for all titans for maximum flexibility.

I didn't like how they written the Sunfury Plasma (largest plasma weapon, lose blast because 8 hit would be too OP), and (possibly) remove the Mega Bolter from the Fist for that same reason either. But compare to the the 1st wave loadout? I'll take The new WL, and Reaver loadout over that any day. Laser Blaster and Gatling Blaster are some of the worst titan gun imo ( laser blaster suffer -1 at long range while the lesser Turbo Laser didn't????)

Without Blast, the Sunfury become the "safe" plasma weapon with no risk of scattering or hitting yourself at close range. And Gatling Blaster is also a pretty terrible weapon in fluff, they're anti infantry and light vehicle with extreme rate of fire but the gun only load 90 rounds.

I find laser blaster to be one of the best. Very flexible. Apoc missile launcher is also very good especially for warlord. Volcano cannon meanwhile hits everything hard and is very efficient at blowing up knights which you often get one chance to remove before they charge in.

And without blast sunfury also can't hit even when it miss. I find that ability very useful. Especially with warhound squadrons or knight banners.

I def can find use for all and if you buy the new box you won't get the others so are stuck with one configuration. Well okay you can switch plasma to fist but that's rather exotic configuration.


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BTW noticed something from the community article:

"Hot on the heels of the brand–new Warlord Battle Titan with Plasma Annihilator and Power Claw come a swathe of new releases for Adeptus Titanicus: The Horus Heresy. First up is the mighty Titan Battlegroup boxed set"

Swathe of new releases....First up....

Hint that even MORE stuff is coming soonish? Sounds great! Guess the new reaver box would be logical release soonish. Maybe the weapon sprue is in sooner than expected?

edit: As for gatling blaster being poor...Well for starters 6 shots is good for stripping shields. And it's also not even that bad vs titans without shields. Yes S5 isn't that big deal but where it excels is finishing off titans...Some section has suffered serious damage so it will have good positive modifier. You just need hit or two there to take down titan. Gatling blaster with 6 shots is rather good for that. And possibly add in flank/rear bonus...I have lost several titans by gatling blaster that aims. Hitting on 5+ isn't that bad thing when you have 6 shots and with max damage bonus it's not that bad for doing that last 1 or 2 hits to near dead titan...Volcano cannon does hefty damage but inability to aim makes that tricky. Laser blaster is only 3 shots so not quaranteed, melta cannon cannot even aim due to being blast....In short for finishing off you are either laser blaster or gatling blaster. Laser blaster has more punch but when damage boost is big that's not deal breaker so 6 shots for more reliable hitting at 5+ is nice thing to have.

The nice thing about AT is that all weapons have purpose generally. The ones that are really struggling would be warlord vulcano mega bolters(20" range is pretty bad especially when apart from vs other warlords you need to be over 10" away) and power fist for warlord(range is issue for 4/6" moving titan)

Just noticed this additional pre-order...

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Adeptus-Titanicus-Accessories-2018

Obviously just more of what is in the ruleset, but something incoming all the same...

That boxed set is a good value, and really a better starting point than Grandmaster Edition was. A player can pick this box and the rules up and have a enough titans and variety to actually experience the game.

Hmm...

The on-line store has a "Knight Command Maniple" up for sale. It's 6 Cerastus Knights, and 6 Questoris Knights, and command terminals, for $200US. Is the term "Command Maniple" something that's actually going to have some sort of meaning within the game? Or is it just an excuse to bundle five boxes together?

Eumerin wrote:
Hmm...

The on-line store has a "Knight Command Maniple" up for sale. It's 6 Cerastus Knights, and 6 Questoris Knights, and command terminals, for $200US. Is the term "Command Maniple" something that's actually going to have some sort of meaning within the game? Or is it just an excuse to bundle five boxes together?

No maniple or extra household rule for knight at the moment. Maybe we'll see one when all the knights are out.

Eumerin wrote:
Hmm...

The on-line store has a "Knight Command Maniple" up for sale. It's 6 Cerastus Knights, and 6 Questoris Knights, and command terminals, for $200US. Is the term "Command Maniple" something that's actually going to have some sort of meaning within the game? Or is it just an excuse to bundle five boxes together?

It's just a set of the 5 terminals, and one box of knights to go with each one.

And it's not discount bundle but 1 click collection

More details posted on WHC with regards to the new 28mm warbringer nemesis titan, including a 360° view

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/26/a-new-class-of-titanfw-homepage-post-1/

I would not be surprised to see it coming to AT in the wake of Titandeath

I read somewhere that a "Nemesis" titan is one that mounts an arm weapon from the next class up as a carapace mount; apparently a standard Warmonger has a pair of Reaver carapace weapons instead of that Mori Quake Cannon. Also, there's going to be options to mount a Bellicosa Volcano Cannon (and possibly another weapon) in place of the Quake Cannon, with different options in place of those ammunition hoppers at the back.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I read somewhere that a "Nemesis" titan is one that mounts an arm weapon from the next class up as a carapace mount; apparently a standard Warmonger has a pair of Reaver carapace weapons instead of that Mori Quake Cannon. Also, there's going to be options to mount a Bellicosa Volcano Cannon (and possibly another weapon) in place of the Quake Cannon, with different options in place of those ammunition hoppers at the back.

Interesting. Not sure why they have the quake cannon pointing skyward, in descriptions it was always a direct fire weapon. So, the volcano cannon will, presumably, be more level looking.

Also, assuming that that is where they are going with the Nemesis moniker, then an assumption becomes that there could be a Nemesis Warlord with Imperator class weapons such as a Hellstorm cannon or Doomfire Missile rack?

That is a possibility. It would also mean more flexibility, and more add-ons/upgrade packs to sell. And if not, conversion possibilities.

Looking quickly at the cards from the original AT, the nemesis was, if not mistaken, the heavier sub-class of warlord.

Wasn't the warmonger Imperator-class with a rather long-range loadout?

For the warlord, there were also the Eclipse, the Deathbringer and the Nightgaunt. With various loadouts.

As the Nightgaunt had no carapace weapons at all and was the most manoeuvrable I would not be surprised to see it come back as the new class between warhound and reaver.

Article says this is sized between a Reaver and a Warlord, hmmm...

Mendi Warrior wrote:
That is a possibility. It would also mean more flexibility, and more add-ons/upgrade packs to sell. And if not, conversion possibilities.

Looking quickly at the cards from the original AT, the nemesis was, if not mistaken, the heavier sub-class of warlord.

Wasn't the warmonger Imperator-class with a rather long-range loadout?

For the warlord, there were also the Eclipse, the Deathbringer and the Nightgaunt. With various loadouts.

As the Nightgaunt had no carapace weapons at all and was the most manoeuvrable I would not be surprised to see it come back as the new class between warhound and reaver.

Yeah, I think we'll see those class names actually result in variants of the three standard classes. Nemesis is the heavier variant. Nightgaunt, as you've noted, is the lighter, faster variant. The Reaver also had sub-clasess called Hun, Goth, etc so it'll be interesting to see what they do with those.

Hmm. That 360 sells the design a *lot* better than the pics that came out of the open day. Head aside I fully like it now, the AT version will definitely be getting added to Legio Aetherius.

The proportions look a lot better now we have a 360 view, it looks great! Interesting to know that it is a little smaller than a Warlord, I just assumed that it was a conversion kit.

 Commander Cain wrote:
The proportions look a lot better now we have a 360 view, it looks great! Interesting to know that it is a little smaller than a Warlord, I just assumed that it was a conversion kit.

I'm pretty sure a lot of the core body / leg components are shared with the Warlord in the same way as the arms are shared with the Reaver. Then there's a good chunk of new 'conversion' pieces too.

 xttz wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
The proportions look a lot better now we have a 360 view, it looks great! Interesting to know that it is a little smaller than a Warlord, I just assumed that it was a conversion kit.

I'm pretty sure a lot of the core body / leg components are shared with the Warlord in the same way as the arms are shared with the Reaver. Then there's a good chunk of new 'conversion' pieces too.

I think it's completely new, the legs are very different to the warlord, it doesn't have the overhanging knee that the warlord does and the upper legs are much more like the Reavers, with three seperate tubes, the warlord has a solid upper leg. Obviously it shares design cues with both the Warlord and the Reaver but I don't think any part of it is a direct copy from one of the others, apart from the weapon arms just being the standard Reaver arms.

As it's supposed to be between reaver and warlord class makes sense size wise it would be somewhere between them...which in turn makes it hard to use same parts. So while design elements would be similar(I thought it to be warlord variant at first) it's it's own thing(feet for example are more remissant of reaver then)

Honestly I’d’ve thought that Titanicus would severely eat into the market for titans larger than around Warhound scale. Why buy a warlord that takes up half your living room when you can get an entire Titan legion for a fraction of the price?

I would think the majority of the market for 40k-sized Titans is for display pieces, while AT models are being sold for use in the game. Two separate markets.

Same reason as before. They weren't gaming pieces to begin with. It's awesome painting project and pretty model. It sells enough for non-gamers to be worth it. And gamers aren't buying them anyway. Can't really use it in game and they suck which is fine for GW. They don't want gamers to spend 1500€ for resin when they could spend that 1500€ on plastic.