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**Mendi Warrior**

Tavis75 wrote:
Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Probably answered before but enlighten me please.

So I was waiting before decided whether to buy AT. Now new weapon options are out etc are they individual sprues? Or do you for example have to buy an entire new Warlord etc? All I see is different entire Warlords? Am I missing something?

Just gunna wait longer it seems? (Would do BFG in a heart beat however)

At the moment, you have to buy an entire new Warlord, however GW have announced that the sprues will be available individually in the new year. At least, the ones from the new versions of the Warlord and Reaver will be, they haven't stated if the sprues from the original versions will also be released individually. I'd expect so, but if you want to be safe, buy the original Warlord\Reaver versions for now. The Warhounds come with two of each weapon per pair so you should have enough weapons as standard, unless you want to arm lots of Warhounds with the same matching pair of weapons.

Should you decide to go that road, look at the upcoming titan battlegroup box that will be released next weekend, if not mistaken, costs £100 for £140 in value, you get a warlord, a reaver and 2 warhounds. Both warlord and reaver are of the first design released. You can then complete with additional weapons sprues once they become available. Use of magnets is strongly advised.

**tneva82**

Yep that box is good way to start. Not that useful if he's going to wait though as that box is likely going to be limited print run.

**Spectral Ceramite**

Ye prob not for me:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:
Spectral Ceramite wrote:

Factions of "Space Marines are still Space Marines" (not that they are Space marines is the relegation or similarity) is all I hear quoted trying to convert people to it if they don't think big machines are cool (I do but...), or where is my Ork titan, or where is my Eldar titan etc etc.

I am not gunna buy personally until see some separate weapons sprues, so can promote more and I am then not gunna buy until my mates could get interested. Not collectible for me like Necromunda etc or BFG. This is just a fun game I would like to play, but if not I'm not worried if don't.

**JWBS**

Sorry if this has been discussed and answered but what is the consenus on the liklihood that the new titan set with free Warhounds will be sold (at further discount) through third party sellers?

**tneva82**

No reason to think it differs from other christmas deals so yes.

For non-UK's better Q is is it better to order contents separately or box itself. Bloody shipping prices! Will see on saturday I guess. Looking for 2 boxes if price is right after shipping

**JWBS**

tneva82 wrote:
No reason to think it differs from other christmas deals so yes.

For non-UK's better Q is is it better to order contents separately or box itself. Bloody shipping prices! Will see on saturday I guess. Looking for 2 boxes if price is right after shipping

Yes I assume they will. They sell Tooth and Claw and other value boxes through discounters. It's just the label on this set ("Deal" and "Xmas") that gives me pause for thought, as if the suggestion of limited time / availability means that it might not show up through resellers. I really hope it does, if so I'll be starting my AT legion very soon with two Warlords, two Reavers and four Warhounds, pretty decent start, especially if I only build half of them and wait for the upgrade sprues (TBH I only really need the new Warlord sprue as I'll likely add a third Reaver, so that will be where I get my alternate Reaver sprue anyway).

**tneva82**

Thing is they have sold christmas deals through 3rd parties before as well(one store in Finland still had ork one last time I checked). So again no reason to think it differs from that.

Oh and why wait? Just magnetize them all. No need to wait for upgrade sprues before assembling.

**JWBS**

tneva82 wrote:
Thing is they have sold christmas deals through 3rd parties before as well(one store in Finland still had ork one last time I checked). So again no reason to think it differs from that.

Oh and why wait? Just magnetize them all. No need to wait for upgrade sprues before assembling.

Yes true. I've never felt the need to magnetise before (non-gamer) but I was thinking about it for maybe the Warlords, I suppose now would be the time if ever.

**tneva82**

They are dirt easy to magnetize. Especially warlord where you don't even need to do any cutting and can put all in(reaver and warhounds cables are bit of issue so I can see why less heavy gamers might not magnetize those) without worry.

For me so much fun of the AT is different weapon combos and just too many combos for me to NOT magnetize!

**JWBS**

Yeah it's not so much the bother of doing the work (as a long time hobbyist I've been converting for aeons, back into the days when miniatures were made of lead, then white metal). I've just never had the need of it before, I'll quite happily have two mono-pose, single loadout Warlords, I just want them to look different. Plus there's the downside to magnetising if you aren't a gamer (painting up extra bits, having nowhere to put them, except on the cabinet shelf next to the mini that they're supposed to pair with, slightly less stability to the structure of the model, and the extra chance of wear and tear on the paint if you ever decided to switch over the weapons, which I doubt I'll do often if ever TBF).

**tneva82**

Well true enough if you literally never play. That kind of thing is so alien concept for me hard to comment on whether it's worth it to magnetize on that case

**JWBS**

tneva82 wrote:
Well true enough if you literally never play. That kind of thing is so alien concept for me hard to comment on whether it's worth it to magnetize on that case

I'm thinking just whatever Warlord gets the newer upgrade sprue, I can magnetise one fist joint, and have the option of two plasma cannons or plasma / fist combo. That seems low effort and therefore worth a little extra work.

**SamusDrake**

tneva82 wrote:

Having new reaver might not be as nice as you might think. If player wants all weapons for all titans(like i) he would then have to buy new reaver box just for weapons...

I'm going to give GW the benefit of the doubt here and say that once the new Warlord and Reaver variants are released, they would then release the original weapon sprues sometime in the new year - they may even do both at the same time, but that is pure speculation on my part. There may even be new Titans that share weapons with the Reavers or Warlords and so would need those sprues separately...

For Night Vault they released the contents from the previous Shadespire separately, so I would assume they could do the same for Titanicus. It would certainly be an easy release for them durning a quiet gap between major releases.

For what I was proposing though( starter set with two reavers ), including both the first reaver and and the new one would at least give the players access to all the current weapons, even though the two reavers could not equip the same weapons. In a perfect world where they do release such a set, they could be generous enough to include two weapon sprues for each of the two titans, but I think thats wishful thinking. There is only so much one can expect from GW.

**Fajita Fan**

They used to offer the Landraider lascannon and Crusader weapon sprues separately but now you can only get the Crusader sponsons. For the purpose of magnetization it’s better to buy a regular LR and the Crusader sprue separately so that may be how it goes.

We don’t know how the molds are laid out, for all we know the body and both weapon sprues are in the same mold this whole time and they just stockpile them in separate piles. For now I think we should assume that the Warlord volcano/Apoc sprue and the Reaver Gatling/laserblaster/Apoc sprues won’t be available separately and only with the retail boxes.

**AndrewGPaul**

Where a kit is two or more frames broken up into individual sprues to go in a box, you can usually tell how they fit together - all the ones I've had have fitted back together.

I doubt they'd be stockpiling anything, though - just grind them up and use the plastic for something else.

**JWBS**

Anything noteworthy on the Twitch stream?

**AndrewGPaul**

Marty McFly, Bill and Ted and the Doctor aren’t members of Dakkadakka, so we’ll need to wait until tonight to find out.

**Padre**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
Marty McFly, Bill and Ted and the Doctor aren’t members of Dakkadakka, so we’ll need to wait until tonight to find out.

Hey, don't forget Doc Brown! Marty wouldn't be in that mess without him!

**Rayvon**

I have decided to keep it all sealed until I know what weapon sprues are available and when, I should have known that buying the first big box release might put me at a disadvantage, its turning out to be a right messy release schedule, cant moan though at least we got AT back.

I remember from the old fluff that reaver titans were supposed to be very rare, I take it that this bit of fluff has changed seeing as though they are bring out three different types ?

**tneva82**

Rayvon wrote:
I have decided to keep it all sealed until I know what weapon sprues are available and when, I should have known that buying the first big box release might put me at a disadvantage, its turning out to be a right messy release schedule, cant moan though at least we got AT back.

I remember from the old fluff that reaver titans were supposed to be very rare, I take it that this bit of fluff has changed seeing as though they are bring out three different types ?

a) how are you at disadvantage? So far from official word the guys buying newest boxes are the ones at disadvantage. We know you can get new weapon sprues separately. No word on old ones. Only disadvantage is early buyers didn't have access to this deal but then again that won't be available forever either so it's advantage for very specific timeframe.
b) what 3 types of reaver? There's the reaver we already had. Then there's the new reaver with alternative weapons but that's not REALLY new reaver. Titans are supposed to have access to various weapons. Hull is still same. So there's new weapon options? That doesn't mean titan is somehow common. There's not even mention of 3rd variant with more weapons and that would also require new never heard weapons seeing only 2 weapons left for reavers. The warp missile which we know is resin(and thus not coming in new box set likely) and vulcan mega bolter.

If you are referring to the new titan with big quake cannon that's not reaver but whole new class. It's cross between warlord and reaver. Just because there's another chassis between reaver and warlord that's bigger than reaver and smaller than warlord doesn't make reaver common.

**AndrewGPaul**

The fluff about Reavers being rarer than Warlords dates back from when Warlords came in plastic and Reavers were metal (and not released until a couple of months after the original game). Is it even mentioned in any background since the 1990s?

**Rayvon**

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tneva82 wrote:
I have decided to keep it all sealed until I know what weapon sprues are available and when, I should have known that buying the first big box release might put me at a disadvantage, its turning out to be a right messy release schedule, cant moan though at least we got AT back.

I remember from the old fluff that reaver titans were supposed to be very rare, I take it that this bit of fluff has changed seeing as though they are bring out three different types ?

a) how are you at disadvantage? So far from official word the guys buying newest boxes are the ones at disadvantage. We know you can get new weapon sprues separately. No word on old ones. Only disadvantage is early buyers didn't have access to this deal but then again that won't be available forever either so it's advantage for very specific timeframe.
b) what 3 types of reaver? There's the reaver we already had. Then there's the new reaver with alternative weapons but that's not REALLY new reaver. Titans are supposed to have access to various weapons. Hull is still same. So there's new weapon options? That doesn't mean titan is somehow common. There's not even mention of 3rd variant with more weapons and that would also require new never heard weapons seeing only 2 weapons left for reavers. The warp missile which we know is resin(and thus not coming in new box set likely) and vulcan mega bolter.

If you are referring to the new titan with big quake cannon that's not reaver but whole new class. It's cross between warlord and reaver. Just because there's another chassis between reaver and warlord that's bigger than reaver and smaller than warlord doesn't make reaver common.

Sorry I did not realise that they had announced all the weapons would be release on seperate sprues, I was only aware that the new Warlord weapons were coming seperate, it would make it much easier for me to plan what I need if that is the case.

AndrewGPaul wrote:
Is it even mentioned in any background since the 1990s?

No idea man, it was part of the fluff last time I played, hence why I asked, I am tempted to crack open a box just to read the books.

**Mysterio**

AndrewGPaul wrote:Marty McFly, Bill and Ted and the Doctor aren’t members of Dakkadakka, so we’ll need to wait until tonight to find out.

Ha! Good one!

Padre wrote:
AndrewGPaul wrote:
Marty McFly, Bill and Ted and the Doctor aren’t members of Dakkadakka, so we’ll need to wait until tonight to find out.

Hey, don't forget Doc Brown! Marty wouldn't be in that mess without him!

I don't think he did forget him?

Also, I bet you Biff already knows!

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Rayvon wrote:

Sorry I did not realise that they had announced all the weapons would be release on seperate sprues, I was only aware that the new Warlord weapons were coming seperate, it would make it much easier for me to plan what I need if that is the case.

They haven't said the original weapons sprue will come out by itself, all they've talked about is the new one appearing at some point in the new year after the outcry from the community

(my suspicion is the old one won't, as I think they'd have mentioned it at the same time if they were planning to, but that's just a guess on my part)

**Overread**

Honestly the old one doesn't need to come out on its own. You can just buy the original Warlord direct and then simply get the expansion pack of weapons from the new one if you want to magnetize.

The new warlord box is clearly for those who want to fix-build and it acts as another draw to the game. Esp since the game has a limited roster at present so having another warlord box is good right now.

I'd fully expect in time that we'll see boxes like the new warlord retired as they expand the range with additional factions (eg chaos).

**xttz**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
The fluff about Reavers being rarer than Warlords dates back from when Warlords came in plastic and Reavers were metal (and not released until a couple of months after the original game). Is it even mentioned in any background since the 1990s?

It's even older than that. It comes from the very first AT rulebook when only Warlords had a model and Reavers were just a concept sketch. The more recent fluff in the HH books explains that titan composition varies heavily by legion, with some preferring some classes above others even to the point of using those exclusively.

**tneva82**

Overread wrote:
Honestly the old one doesn't need to come out on its own. You can just buy the original Warlord direct and then simply get the expansion pack of weapons from the new one if you want to magnetize.
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Does mean those like me can't buy new warlord or reaver box but have to wait potentially still months for weapons though. If old sprue would come separately as well could get 1 of both right away but now locked out

**Tavis75**

xttz wrote:
It's even older than that. It comes from the very first AT rulebook when only Warlords had a model and Reavers were just a concept sketch. The more recent fluff in the HH books explains that titan composition varies heavily by legion, with some preferring some classes above others even to the point of using those exclusively.

Reavers came out the same month as Adeptus Titanicus, in fact I think they may even have been available before the main game was released, bought my first Reaver on the 10th of December (from GW Bristol the day it opened, a week before the grand opening) but I'm pretty sure AT wasn't available until later in the month as I remember impatiently waiting for it!

**Overread**

tneva82 wrote:
Overread wrote:
Honestly the old one doesn't need to come out on its own. You can just buy the original Warlord direct and then simply get the expansion pack of weapons from the new one if you want to magnetize.
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Does mean those like me can't buy new warlord or reaver box but have to wait potentially still months for weapons though.

Yes yes it does.

Or you can see if they are sold on ebay as parts, but you might wind up paying quite a bit for them.

Like I said it doesn't make sense for GW, at present, to have two warlords and two upgrade packs on the market at the same time. Easier to simply ignore the new warlord and wait for the upgrade pack and have the original as the "core" warlord set and all else is based off it.

You are freely able to go out right now and buy the original warlord, paint it up and get it ready for the upgrade parts of course.

**SamusDrake**

tneva82 wrote:
Overread wrote:
Honestly the old one doesn't need to come out on its own. You can just buy the original Warlord direct and then simply get the expansion pack of weapons from the new one if you want to magnetize.
.

Does mean those like me can't buy new warlord or reaver box but have to wait potentially still months for weapons though. If old sprue would come separately as well could get 1 of both right away but now locked out

Saying that, if you are a crafty devil you could make your own stand-in weapons until the official sprues become available!