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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
I'd thought that they'd be doing the usual; first print run is hardbacks, then all subsequent runs paperback.

I'm fairly sure there's been more than one run of at least the earlier black books by now, there's very little chance they're still selling ones they ran up seven years ago for Betrayal. They genuinely don't seem to know what they're going to do with the black book series, the paperbacks for 4 and 6 seem like stopgaps to make sure they still had the content available when the most recent hardback runs for them ran out or something. Then again, they don't even seem to know if they're getting those back in stock either.

Actually, given what they've done with other ranges, I'd expect they'll do the first run of 6 or so books in hardback.

...and then they'll do a second edition hardback with the consolidated rules.

Assuming the game still has legs at that point (and I'm certainly taking steps to help with that), they can continue to release books and consolidate.

BTW, what's the next event where they're likely to talk the future of AT?

 schoon wrote:
BTW, what's the next event where they're likely to talk the future of AT?

Warhammer Fest. There's a seminar on the Saturday (11th May) - https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/WHFest2019_SeminarsDownload.pdf

Question for anyone that got the Knight Stratagem cards set that came out with Doom of Molech; what exactly is in it? I looked at the contents listed on GW’s website and it doesn’t make sense when compared to the content of the book…

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Question for anyone that got the Knight Stratagem cards set that came out with Doom of Molech; what exactly is in it? I looked at the contents listed on GW’s website and it doesn’t make sense when compared to the content of the book…

I haven't had the chance to order a pack yet, but they should be the same as in the book...unless they have included additional stratagems.


Update: At a guess, the "8 House stratagems" are exclusive to the card set. Being as it contains 8 cards where DOM has only 7 houses...they include an additional new house? Hmmm. Eitherway, it'll be at least another week before I can get my grubby mits on a set...

New guns are back in stock.

Now watch as they sell out again before I have spare cash on Thursday.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
New guns are back in stock.

Not yet - apparently - for those of us in the US.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone.

Well, Quake cannon is out again.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone.

Well, Quake cannon is out again.

Well, that didn't last long. I want both, but don't want to splash £3:50 postage for a single flippin' gun

Yeah that's why I'm holding off on these Warlord guns until more options are out. Really want more Reaver carapace options, and if I can split an order with someone at my local club we can get free shipping

Say what you will about the original AT Titans, but having all those different weapons all on sprues together was cool.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone.

Well, Quake cannon is out again.

Well, that didn't last long. I want both, but don't want to splash £3:50 postage for a single flippin' gun

No idea if this is geographically feasible, but Warhammer World appear to have a steady supply?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's gone.

Well, Quake cannon is out again.

Well, that didn't last long. I want both, but don't want to splash £3:50 postage for a single flippin' gun

No idea if this is geographically feasible, but Warhammer World appear to have a steady supply?

1 hours drive? Not worth the petrol. I can wait, besides Xttz is spot on in waiting until more weapons are out including the Carapace Gatling Blasters for the Warlord.

Fair enough

I'll probably wait until I'm visiting an Event FW attend, pick them up then.

The fact they're evidently either holding some back or doing quickfire casting runs to keep their own shop supplied but can't keep them up on the website for more than a sodding day is really annoying.

The other products in the AT range have sold out on day one and took a while to get restocked. I'm sure they will do so soon.

Just hoping for good knews on Friday...

 Yodhrin wrote:
The fact they're evidently either holding some back or doing quickfire casting runs to keep their own shop supplied but can't keep them up on the website for more than a sodding day is really annoying.

FW Store and Events have their inventory set aside well in advance of release, rather than plucked from a central pile.

That’s how I was able to Loot some of the Legion dice when I went to Salute. Wasn’t expecting them to be there, as they’d been sold out on the web store for weeks. It’s also how I found out the info above

Just so you guys know, the quake cannon and macro Gatling are very nice kits. I was surprised to see that the Gatling barrel array is two sets of three barrels rather than three pairs like on the plastic kits though.

As someone who used to organise a convention (though not for FW), I can say that most convention stock is considered as an "order." Most companies do not pilfer from stock to add to it.

They are likely casting as fast as they can, and demand is simply outpacing production.

...though that's cold comfort when I can't get my hands on one

Titan Battlegroup is back in stock on GW Australia

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The fact they're evidently either holding some back or doing quickfire casting runs to keep their own shop supplied but can't keep them up on the website for more than a sodding day is really annoying.

FW Store and Events have their inventory set aside well in advance of release, rather than plucked from a central pile.

That’s how I was able to Loot some of the Legion dice when I went to Salute. Wasn’t expecting them to be there, as they’d been sold out on the web store for weeks. It’s also how I found out the info above

Right, but as far as I know it doesn't have magical wards placed upon it to keep it from being sold anywhere but WHW, so when they run out of stock on the website within a day for the second time they could maybe go to the admittedly strenuous effort of reassigning some of it back to the regular webshop.

I'm not buying them, they look nice but I can't really afford them so I'll happily convert. Strangely, for someone that can't afford them, I could have bought them at any time they're available, so I don't quite understand how someone that can afford them, with notice of available stock, wasn't able to. I recommend anyone in this situation leaving some money in their current account, not very strenuous and a lot more productive than complaining about stock levels.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The fact they're evidently either holding some back or doing quickfire casting runs to keep their own shop supplied but can't keep them up on the website for more than a sodding day is really annoying.

FW Store and Events have their inventory set aside well in advance of release, rather than plucked from a central pile.

That’s how I was able to Loot some of the Legion dice when I went to Salute. Wasn’t expecting them to be there, as they’d been sold out on the web store for weeks. It’s also how I found out the info above

Right, but as far as I know it doesn't have magical wards placed upon it to keep it from being sold anywhere but WHW, so when they run out of stock on the website within a day for the second time they could maybe go to the admittedly strenuous effort of reassigning some of it back to the regular webshop.

That kind of assumes that the reserve stock for the physical store represents a significant enough quantity to extend the online availability for, well, any amount of time.

What do you suppose the typical sell-through of the WHW store is for AT bitz? I would find it hard to credit more then 4-5 a day. So let’s assume they sold an even 100 in the time since release and have that much again in reserve.
What about the web shop? Do we think an extra hundred units would have kept them in stock for another week? Or another five minutes?
If the answer is five minutes then is it really worth it to take the ten minutes to head over to the store, known loss their stock, bring it back to the distribution office and re-enter it into the system? Assuming it’s even that easy.

Basically unless you assume the single local store is selling at a rate within an order of magnitude of the international, 24/7 web shop the transaction doesn’t actually gain you anything except frustrated visitors to the physical store.

I'm hoping demand is high enough that FW will see it and decide to make a plastic sprue for these guns. gatling, quake, las-burner arm for the melee option, carapace mount (vulcans?) and the lucius head would all fit and give them another kit to release.

Except large amount of that demand is already fulfilled. They would need to get everybody who bought one to buy those(and more preferably) AGAIN to even consider it.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The fact they're evidently either holding some back or doing quickfire casting runs to keep their own shop supplied but can't keep them up on the website for more than a sodding day is really annoying.

FW Store and Events have their inventory set aside well in advance of release, rather than plucked from a central pile.

That’s how I was able to Loot some of the Legion dice when I went to Salute. Wasn’t expecting them to be there, as they’d been sold out on the web store for weeks. It’s also how I found out the info above

Right, but as far as I know it doesn't have magical wards placed upon it to keep it from being sold anywhere but WHW, so when they run out of stock on the website within a day for the second time they could maybe go to the admittedly strenuous effort of reassigning some of it back to the regular webshop.

Personally as a customer I'd be far more pissed off if I was making a trip to Nottingham and the items I wanted to buy weren't available on the day. Allocating stock aside for the bricks & mortar side of a retail business is standard practice and for good reason.

It's also fantastic to see that these products are in sufficient demand to repeatedly sell out production runs. That makes it all the more likely to see even more of them developed in future.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Just so you guys know, the quake cannon and macro Gatling are very nice kits. I was surprised to see that the Gatling barrel array is two sets of three barrels rather than three pairs like on the plastic kits though.

I guess that will be down to flexibility of resin casting compared to plastic, as you can get away with undercuts with resin.

 xttz wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The fact they're evidently either holding some back or doing quickfire casting runs to keep their own shop supplied but can't keep them up on the website for more than a sodding day is really annoying.

FW Store and Events have their inventory set aside well in advance of release, rather than plucked from a central pile.

That’s how I was able to Loot some of the Legion dice when I went to Salute. Wasn’t expecting them to be there, as they’d been sold out on the web store for weeks. It’s also how I found out the info above

Right, but as far as I know it doesn't have magical wards placed upon it to keep it from being sold anywhere but WHW, so when they run out of stock on the website within a day for the second time they could maybe go to the admittedly strenuous effort of reassigning some of it back to the regular webshop.

Personally as a customer I'd be far more pissed off if I was making a trip to Nottingham and the items I wanted to buy weren't available on the day. Allocating stock aside for the bricks & mortar side of a retail business is standard practice and for good reason.

It's also fantastic to see that these products are in sufficient demand to repeatedly sell out production runs. That makes it all the more likely to see even more of them developed in future.

They can develop as many as they like, unless I can actually buy them that doesn't mean much. I can't glue pretty pictures from a website to my models

 Yodhrin wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The fact they're evidently either holding some back or doing quickfire casting runs to keep their own shop supplied but can't keep them up on the website for more than a sodding day is really annoying.

FW Store and Events have their inventory set aside well in advance of release, rather than plucked from a central pile.

That’s how I was able to Loot some of the Legion dice when I went to Salute. Wasn’t expecting them to be there, as they’d been sold out on the web store for weeks. It’s also how I found out the info above

Right, but as far as I know it doesn't have magical wards placed upon it to keep it from being sold anywhere but WHW, so when they run out of stock on the website within a day for the second time they could maybe go to the admittedly strenuous effort of reassigning some of it back to the regular webshop.

Personally as a customer I'd be far more pissed off if I was making a trip to Nottingham and the items I wanted to buy weren't available on the day. Allocating stock aside for the bricks & mortar side of a retail business is standard practice and for good reason.

It's also fantastic to see that these products are in sufficient demand to repeatedly sell out production runs. That makes it all the more likely to see even more of them developed in future.

They can develop as many as they like, unless I can actually buy them that doesn't mean much. I can't glue pretty pictures from a website to my models

Where's your Blue Peter spirit? Of course you can glue pictures to your models!!