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RazorEdge wrote:
I wonder if we ever see a Hardcover Rulebook, "second" Edition maybe?

 Overread wrote:
I think the team is just being very careful to not get people's hopes up. Same as how whenever Epic is mentioned they say no its not coming.

I already changed to the point, that I don't believe what ever they confirm, or deny...

I’m more lightly worried they’d oversize it, I remember some guy claiming it would be similar in size to a full scale reaver when it’d obviously be more like a full scale imperial knight with some shoulder buildings.

Yeah idk what he was on about when he said that. Maybe it was just a hyperbolic joke and we missed the context, because when you look at the Titan Legions Imperator, it's a lot more massive than a Warlord but it's only about twice the height. The fluff for official size varies a bit, but as far as models go (and this is the only official Imperator we've ever had), the claim they made back then was absurdly overestimated A 40K scale Castellan would be sufficient.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Crablezworth wrote:


Well if you have the chance to game with your brother, give our AT scenario a try and lemme know what ya think https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/787202.page#10920502 We're working on V3, should be out soon, just waiting on crucible of retribution to make sure we're not adding stuff that's redundant. Hopefully the book arrives next week.

Warbringer I'm liking over warlord if you guys had to choose. I like that it's that extra little bit faster and with a bit of conversion can swap weapons with reavers. I like my warlord but it is cumbersome and expensive, tends to get relegated to bigger games.

That I shall look forward to.

Speaking of which, we came up with a homebrew which took AT to the micro-scale; knights act independently and a single Scion, Warhound or Reaver would take command of them. Should get off my lazy ass and make a similar effort. I guess a new thread wouldn't hurt...

Yes, the Warbringer is certainly the better candidate. We love the look of the Warlord better - especially the Sunfury variant - but as you say he's really a titan for larger games.

Tried to come up with suitable scenerarios for a solitaire-coop mission, but nothing springs to mind yet. At best we envision a lone warhound running a gauntlet to regroup with its battle group.

Maybe the warhound agaisnt some battlefield assets like the armageddon missile battery or the macro cannon, could modify how titan hunter infantry work. They're all pretty resilient too, usually best to step on them.


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JWBS wrote:
Yeah idk what he was on about when he said that. Maybe it was just a hyperbolic joke and we missed the context, because when you look at the Titan Legions Imperator, it's a lot more massive than a Warlord but it's only about twice the height. The fluff for official size varies a bit, but as far as models go (and this is the only official Imperator we've ever had), the claim they made back then was absurdly overestimated A 40K scale Castellan would be sufficient.

I feel like anything more than about 30-40% taller than a warlord just gets really absurd. It just needs to be bigger and have a cool castle on the top. I don't think it'd be great for the game but it is one hell of iconic model, for me it was my first exposure to 40k, giant card board cut out of that thing in front of gw in the mall, like it even comes before a space marines in terms of symbol of the absurdity and awesome scale that makes up 40k.

The rapier would be better for the game though, really hope that rumour ends up being true.

That picture of the Imperator staring down at the crowd below cracks me up every time...

"SURPRISE!!!!"

 Crablezworth wrote:



I feel like anything more than about 30-40% taller than a warlord just gets really absurd. It just needs to be bigger and have a cool castle on the top.

I agree. Imperator should be to Warlord what Warlord is to Reaver, that would be in keeping with the spirit imo. Warlords are a lot bigger than Reavers, which are a lot bigger than Warhounds, but none of them are ludicrously outsizing the next one up, example -



so I think if you take something the size of a 40K Knight and add the buildings on top, that would be sufficient



(could perhaps be a little bigger but definitely doesn't need to be twice the height)

Most of the conversions I’ve seen are based on the Dominus class knight, which happens to be just a little bigger than the regular Questoris in that image. Also a bit broader in the shoulder.

Yeah I plan on using the Castellan myself, but I don't have an image for comparison.

That Warlord is just mental. Still can't believe its actually a thing in 40K.

Something around the size of the 40K Dominus Knight would probably be good for an Imperators main body with the "castle" on top giving extra height. I would be wary of using the old Epic models for comparative sizes though as that ranges internal scale was vague at best and the Titan models were much smaller(old Epic Warlord is smaller than the AT Warhound)
Aside from the Epic rehashes I hope we do get some new types, and that they add some variation to the body types and silhouettes in the model line.

In one of the engine kill articles, one of the studio guys converted a castellan into an Imperator using civitas bits. something along those lines would be cool for an actual kit.

RazorEdge wrote:
I wonder if we ever see a Hardcover Rulebook, "second" Edition maybe?

It's going to happen eventually.

The game is popular enough to warrant an eventual 2nd edition, and with all the books and changes, it will certainty need one.

As to when they make that call, who knows. I'm not holding my breath.

A second edition would certainly happen. The question is if it remains Imperial VS Imperial or if they use a second edition to advance either to include actual warped chaos titans and/or to include xenos races appearing.

The new starter set came with an updated manual so maybe they will repackage the rule set with that one, which has disappeared from the website.

On the other hand, this years starter set might be its replacement going forward?

Out next week:

Meanwhile, Friday sees two new patterns of Questoris Knight released for Adeptus Titanicus. The Magaera is armed with the destructive lightning cannon, which can obliterate smaller targets and cause damage to larger ones thanks to the Blast and Rending traits. Its sister Knight, the Styrix, is armed with a volkite chieorovile – the perfect weapon for stripping void shields from enemy Titans. Both are armed with a Hekaton siege claw, meaning they can finish off anything that survives their deadly barrages at close range.






These Knights are also equipped with ionic flare shields, giving them great protection as they quickly move into position. Any Princeps will definitely want to add a Banner of these Knights to their force.

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The Magaera is armed with the destructive lightning cannon, which can obliterate smaller targets and cause damage to larger ones thanks to the Blast and Rending traits.

Could this be a hint of something smaller?

Probably battle field assets such as the Command station.

 Malika2 wrote:
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The Magaera is armed with the destructive lightning cannon, which can obliterate smaller targets and cause damage to larger ones thanks to the Blast and Rending traits.

Could this be a hint of something smaller?

I think it just means smaller targets in the game like other knights, as opposed to bigger targets like titans.

Been looking forward to these. £30 a pair I’m guessing,

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
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The Magaera is armed with the destructive lightning cannon, which can obliterate smaller targets and cause damage to larger ones thanks to the Blast and Rending traits.

Could this be a hint of something smaller?

I think it just means smaller targets in the game like other knights, as opposed to bigger targets like titans.

I agree, I doubt we would see Armiger Knights or Epic that soonish....

I'd bet on the Armigers as the next plastic knights, probably after a new titan.

After all, those avenger and bolt cannons need something to shoot at...

Isn't the Armiger focused to fight Tanks & Infantry?

I still doubt we will see this Knight that soon.

Atrapos is next, art in new book, no sight of armiger.

Meltagun(the infantry version) is S8, and autocannon is s4 in this game, so Armiger is cheap source for both Anti Titan and shield stripping.

All I know is they make cool looking titan hunter infantry stratagems

Chopstick wrote:
Atrapos is next, art in new book, no sight of armiger.

Meltagun(the infantry version) is S8, and autocannon is s4 in this game, so Armiger is cheap source for both Anti Titan and shield stripping.

Just Atrapos as you say and then Asterios and we're up to date on Knights.

Not sure if the Armiger or the even the Dominus will appear. Dominus appears a bit weird and disjointed for this game. It's my opinion that it's been eminently scaled around games of 40K and not much thought about how it'd work in engagements in general in the universe. Largely short range weapons with a few exceptions. Not forgetting that it's festooned with smaller callibre weaponry. Looking at the 30k rules (see here) and applying a heap of back of cigarette packet guessing, the knight's armaments could be:

Small arms:
- 2-4 autocannon shots
- 2 shot voidbreaker missiles, Lascannon strength
- 2 Meltagun shots

Main guns:
- Thundercoil Harpoon could be a cut down version of the Ursus Claw - melee range only
- Conflaguration Cannon would be an Inferno gun
- Volcanon Lance could like a single shot Acastus Magma Lascannon round
- Plasma Decimator would be weaker Plasma Blastgun with no blast

General range of most weapons would be 16"-20" with the Volcano Lance an exception.


The Armigers would be a far more interesting proposition especially if they bring out the Armiger Moirax Knights and their esoteric Weapons. Graviton Pulsars and Conversion Beamers could be quite effective.

The range of weapon in this game is effectively their 40k/30k range divided by 3, except for a few because rule writers aren't sober that day. And those weapons broke the game some way or the other.

And Thundercoil Harpoon isn't used the same way as Ursus Claw.

SamusDrake wrote:
I'd bet on the Armigers as the next plastic knights, probably after a new titan.

An Armiger release would not surprise me at this point - seems like it's Adeptus Knighticus judging by recent releases.

Next releases are blatantly going to be the Knight Atrapos (probably in resin as similar hull detailing to the styrix and magaera) and the Warbringer with the Volcano cannon

JWBS wrote:
Yeah idk what he was on about when he said that. Maybe it was just a hyperbolic joke and we missed the context, because when you look at the Titan Legions Imperator, it's a lot more massive than a Warlord but it's only about twice the height. The fluff for official size varies a bit, but as far as models go (and this is the only official Imperator we've ever had), the claim they made back then was absurdly overestimated A 40K scale Castellan would be sufficient.

Imperator 55m, warlord 33m. Thus about 2/3 as tall as warlord does it. Most of that extra height being the big cathedral.

Castellan is probably decent start for the body itself to have head sufficiently tall. Cathedral would add bit more I think. Castellan isn't that much taller than regular knight which is about warlord size.

FYI - there's a Stratagem Card ("Venerable Machine Spirit") with the next White Dwarf (Issue 458 - WarCom) -

Nice, pretty much the only reason to buy White Dwarf. £5 for the cards with optional magazine