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 zedmeister wrote:
Possibly related, but Forgeworld are building a new Diorama. Something they could use for Adeptus Titanicus?

Oh, I might have been seeing the scale wrong - is that really a Warlord skeleton / chassis? I thought it was something smaller, my mind just had to adjust significantly!

 RiTides wrote:
Oh, I might have been seeing the scale wrong - is that really a Warlord skeleton / chassis? I thought it was something smaller, my mind just had to adjust significantly!

Well, it's not a warhound, and it's not a reaver, so I think you have it there.

Zwan1One wrote:
Looks like there's some interesting resin upgrade control centres to the shadow war terrain. To the left of the super heavy tractor.

Interesting observation, though I think we might actually know where that comes from:

Calling this Titanicus news might be a little bit of a stretch, but it IS titan related:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/04/40k-ordo-sinister-psi-titans-underway.html

Ewwwwwww. BoLS link. Dirty boy!!!!

I'm not-terribly-secretly hoping we might get our first glimpse of the Adeptus Titanicus models at Warhammerfest.

I'd love that, I would.

 ph34r wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Oh, I might have been seeing the scale wrong - is that really a Warlord skeleton / chassis? I thought it was something smaller, my mind just had to adjust significantly!

Well, it's not a warhound, and it's not a reaver, so I think you have it there.

Zwan1One wrote:
Looks like there's some interesting resin upgrade control centres to the shadow war terrain. To the left of the super heavy tractor.

Interesting observation, though I think we might actually know where that comes from:

Spoiler:

Good spot. Nice use of parts and inhouse moulds!

Spotted this on my travails. No idea if it is genuine or not:

So the new stuff is not going to be in scale as well?

Vintersorg wrote:
So the new stuff is not going to be in scale as well?

That's not how I interpreted it - he was explaining why they chose 8mm and it appears that they'll all be to scale.

If they do it properly, with plastic 8mm LR tank battalions, entire squadrons of Thunderhawks, properly vast Gargants, great scenery and the like, then that would be fine. Other than me having to sell my house to pay for it all.

/dribbles

I'd believe that more if anyone at GW had ever held up a marine next to rhino and tried to see how many would fit inside!

 zedmeister wrote:

Vintersorg wrote:
So the new stuff is not going to be in scale as well?

That's not how I interpreted it - he was explaining why they chose 8mm and it appears that they'll all be to scale.

Yep. They're giving a reason for the scale change beyond the interwebular paranoia of 'to do me over, personally'.

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Anyway, Id be happy if we could take this as 'confirmation' that we'll eventually end up with something closer to Space Marine/Titan Legions/Epic rather than just a re-imagining of Adeptus Titanicus.

The thing is, if what he's saying is true, the old infantry and titans can't both match the new scale. From all we've heard previously, it sounds like the titans are bigger, but should more realistically match everything else from oldschool Epic. That's actually kind of cool, since they're not remaking any of the other stuff yet.

I'm quite pumped about being able to play Epic: Armageddon with brand new Titan & Knight sculpts.

 Alpharius wrote:
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Anyway, Id be happy if we could take this as 'confirmation' that we'll eventually end up with something closer to Space Marine/Titan Legions/Epic rather than just a re-imagining of Adeptus Titanicus.

Indeed. I think, after Blood Bowl and now Shadow War, GW are beginning to realise that they have a large untapped market ripe for exploiting. If those comments are genuine, then they are seriously contemplating Epic, not just Adeptus Titanicus...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

Vintersorg wrote:
So the new stuff is not going to be in scale as well?

That's not how I interpreted it - he was explaining why they chose 8mm and it appears that they'll all be to scale.

Yep. They're giving a reason for the scale change beyond the interwebular paranoia of 'to do me over, personally'.

No one's naive enough to think it's them PERSONALLY, we think "to do us over, the Epic 40k community as a whole".

Everyone knows Epic 40k has an inconsistent scale, just like actual 40k does, but we still have models in that inconsistent scale And being inconsistent didn't stop them from selectively fixing it in the past, FW's Aeronautica Imperialis released properly scaled 6mm aircraft in spite of there previously being midget scaled Epic 40k aircraft. I can't remember but the FW Warhounds might have been properly scaled as well? I recall measuring them but don't recall the results.

It is also weird to make the choice to go 8mm if the goal is to be consistent, the problem with Epic was the titans were too small, so they fix that by making the scale bigger and thus the titans need to be even bigger again to be in scale with the infantry?

I mean, I personally don't really mind them scaling up, if anything I think they should go 10mm or some such It's just 8mm is an annoying scale where it's still tiny but larger than old Epic enough so as to not be compatible, and since they are going to be releasing only Titans to start off with we can't recreate the old awesome Epic 40k battles until they get around to releasing the rest of it.... if they ever get around to releasing the rest of it.

If they released a few plastic sprues that included basic vehicles and infantry and maybe a few resin aircraft and oddball vehicles early on then I don't mind them changing the scale at all.


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 Alpharius wrote:
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Anyway, Id be happy if we could take this as 'confirmation' that we'll eventually end up with something closer to Space Marine/Titan Legions/Epic rather than just a re-imagining of Adeptus Titanicus.

I'm not actually sure what the context of that message is supposed to be for it to be considered confirmation of anything, "Space Slann" isn't something we've heard from GW in the context of miniatures in a long time.

Skink, I think you're missing the gist of the quote from Andy H. He said the infantry were sculpted as small as the medium allowed, but the implication is they're not really 6mm. If you call the infantry actually 8mm size, then making Titans 8mm scale makes sense.

I'm not espousing that, I really have no idea on the scales - but that's how I read the screen capture quote from zedmeister's post.

 zedmeister wrote:
Spotted this on my travails. No idea if it is genuine or not:

thanks for this. It reassures me and makes me feel happier and easier to find a game with my massive (teehee) Epic Squat army I know, smaller.

 RiTides wrote:
Skink, I think you're missing the gist of the quote from Andy H. He said the infantry were sculpted as small as the medium allowed, but the implication is they're not really 6mm. If you call the infantry actually 8mm size, then making Titans 8mm scale makes sense.

I'm not espousing that, I really have no idea on the scales - but that's how I read the screen capture quote from zedmeister's post.

The old infantry is pretty close to 6mm. I measured a bunch of the old plastic Epic models during our scale discussion earlier and most were about 6mm tall except some oddball things. For some reason the Chaplain was a couple of mm taller than everyone else at 7.5mm, but he stood head and shoulders above basic Marines which were about 6mm and Orks were 5.5mm, Scouts were about 6.5mm. But other than the oddball stuff like the Chaplain, it was all much closer to 6mm than 8mm.

The original release of lead Space Marines were closer to 8mm:



They were huge compared to the later released plastics

I will admit I had never ever even seen those metal rogue trader era marines

Most the Epic vehicles are probably in the 4mm to 5mm range while the infantry is closer to 6mm. Forge World's more recent foray in to Epic was all pretty well scaled to 6mm. Even if the old metals were 8mm it seems an odd choice to me to use that as the reasoning as they are probably the main overscaled Epic thing compared to damned near everything else they did for Epic over the years.

On the GW Facebook page, they've promised a "Big" announcement for tomorrow.

Though I would love for it to be Titanicus, that doesn't feel right...

Yeah, it's 40K 8th - our time will come though, no worries!

(Probably not until 2018 though, so...)

Could this be legit?

Since the Warhound is bigger than the "Reaver" on the left?

(Was that supposed to be a Knight?)

And at the same time, smaller than the "Reaver" on the right?

Probably not?

Looks like the fan made forumware models.

 Alpharius wrote:
Since the Warhound is bigger than the "Reaver" on the left?

(Was that supposed to be a Knight?)

And at the same time, smaller than the "Reaver" on the right?

Probably not?

I'm more wondering if that could be old models to the left, new models to the right. Showing the new scaled up titans.

I'm not completely buying it myself.

 alanmckenzie wrote:
Could this be legit?

Hooky models - they look like the dubious casts you can get if you ask around hard enough

I have my doubts simply because of the infantry and tank as I thought it's Titans only for now. But that's a Knight, Warhound, Reaver and Warlord there though the knight looks a tad big.

There's no knight.

I was suggesting the infantry, land raider and small reaver on the left could be old Epic models, and the three models on the right could be the new models.

Again, I'm far from convinced myself.