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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
4 pt Poxwalkers and 8 pt Plaguebearers seems nice to me... considering I have only 10 PBs and over 80 walkers.

Wish the Predators went down more points, Wardogs still outclass them by miles.

Agreed, I am wondering if three squads of 20 poxwalkers will be worth it compared to spamming cultists again. I am not planning on running Typhus, but I may as the model is a beast and he is way cheaper now.

With the prince and poxwalker decreases, I just might be able to have another battalion.

 Nithaniel wrote:
Typhus down 20pts and poxwalkers down 2 pts.

I'd love this.


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Everything I've heard so far from random fb posts... no idea if true or not.

Cultist down 1pt
Land raider down 20pt
Terminator Lord down 10pt
Predator down 5pt
Rhino up 15pt
Spawn down 5pt
Helbrute down 20pt
MPC down 15pt
MBH down 15pt
Possessed down 3pt
Pox down 2pt
Sorcerer down 10pt
Terminator sorcerer down 2pts
Typhus down 20pt
Plaguebearers up 1pt
Combi melta down 4pt
Entropy cannon down 5pt
Plague spewer down 2pt

If true, this is savings on pretty much every list I ruin.

As someone who regularly plays with 80 Poxwalkers and Typhus I've already saved 180 points which is basically a free Prince.. oh please be true!

Didn't one of the leaks show that PM are down to 14 points? That would work quite well for me as right now they take up all of my troop infantry and thus alot of points.

Poxwalkers only went down one point. It clearly shows 5 points a model.

Still, with the points increase in PBs, the walkers are back on the menu it seems.

I usually use Nurglings in a Daemon Battalion for my Chaos Knights list, but a cheap screen of Pox Walkers can help from some deepstrike troubles.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Didn't one of the leaks show that PM are down to 14 points? That would work quite well for me as right now they take up all of my troop infantry and thus alot of points.

Plague Marines look like they're going up... maybe 18pts...

They better have 2 wounds now...

I swear the death guard photos are worse than big foot photos. How is it so blurry?

Cloud of Flies.

This is devil's way of making hype for upcoming releases.. wouldn' be suprised if GW let stuff come out during the two week period in small crums.. In my perfect world all these rule and point stuff should be free at GW pages. After all we need their plastic to use the rules..

Well, back to reality. There's now sources for 14/18 p plague marines and the picture quality in that particular DG page just is awful, why even post such a shoddy picture unless it's intentional.

PM were already over expensive vs. Intercessors, T5 and DR doesn't make up for it.

The more we get these annual point drops, my gaming group is more and more into 1500p games.. those lini-tourneys don't need a chess-clock to finish in time.

Access to Lord Disco makes me think if it's something to add on in our armies . What we really lack is long range fire support from mono-builds. Entropy cannons even with the points drop hasn't work out for me so I've been all with my screen&flame stuff PBC to accompany my arch-contaminator DP (which seems to go down to 165p) and plague spitting bloat-drones.

Helbrute did not go down 20pt. It is still the same 60 as before.

Well CA19 didn’t really help us out much. Watched some videos today. I’ll keep everything up to date and add units below:

The good:
-Blighthaulers -15 (102)
-Deathshroud terminators -10 (42)
-Bloat drones -20 (probes went down to 5pts)
-Typhus -20 (150)
-Poxwalkers -1 (5)
-plague caster (I think that is his name) -15 (95)
-cultists -1 (4)
-Spawn -5 (20)
-Lord of Contagion -17 (95 before weapon)
-Rhino - (65)


The bad:
-Our demon princes didn’t get the pt drop
-no change to plague marines points or wounds
-there are other small reductions.

Fyi, I added up upgrades and I got different points..

Pm still 16
Deathshroud is 25 + 17 manreaper 42p tot.
Foetid bloat-drones with spitters now at 138p. 99+17+17+5
MBH 102
Nurgle DP with wings still 180
Helbrute 102p stock
Blightlords.42p with combibolter and axe
Termie sorc 105
Malignant plaguecaster only 95p
Poxwalkers/cultists 5/4p

Well.. have to digest a bit

MBH at 102 sounds awesome though.

The list I used against raven guard last time went at 1750p dropped down -67p and it was already quite one sided show from death guard.

Also chaos rhino 65+bolter

Foetid Bloat Drones with Flesh mowers are looking pretty tasty. I am really not sure what to drop though to fit a couple of them in.

I'm a bit bumped about PM still being 16 but overall I can 't complain with these changes. My imagined list got cheaper so I can get in an extra Hellbrute. Would have been a PM squad but we are paying 5 points extra over CSM just for +1T and DR. Not really worth it imo.

 Castozor wrote:
I'm a bit bumped about PM still being 16 but overall I can 't complain with these changes. My imagined list got cheaper so I can get in an extra Hellbrute. Would have been a PM squad but we are paying 5 points extra over CSM just for +1T and DR. Not really worth it imo.

Poxwalkers and cultists are the only troop options that makes sense now.


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Anyone have list ideas? I still can’t see a viable one in the marine meta. We have units that are good, but not great. I think PBCs, MBHs, Blightlords, bloat drones, and foul blightspawns are all solid (none even use our useless chapter trait). I still find it hard to get them into a list and get support units. I still feel I lack the firepower and survivability required to win.

I’m not massively surprised that our DP is more expensive than the vanilla one, it’s effectively got like +3W without the vulnerability

The nurgle daemon prince also gets the same thing

It is a bit odd the DG prince's got bumped up when Nurgle ones are the same. Maybe it's something that will be cleared up but I won't hold my breath.

Guess you can still run the Nurgle Prince with a bunch of daemon engines in a Nurgle detachment and save the points if you can cover the non daemon rerolls elsewhere.

None of the points decreases means anything when everyone else also got reductions.

Horde lists with Typhus and some max squads of Pox Walkers sound delicious for board control now. I'm thinking 4 max squads and then whatever to supplement them.

Sumilidon wrote:
None of the points decreases means anything when everyone else also got reductions.

I mean, they do make a difference when they massively influence the makeup of the lists you’ll be facing

There’ll be more Warp Talons, making spewers weaker

There'll be more Wulfen, making 3W attacks stronger (for instance, DP Swords, which have already benefited heavily from Hateful Assault)

Plaguebearers hordes may or may not be viable, but you’ll have 120pts to spend on stuff to help clear them

There’ll be more Fiends of Slaanesh, plus Word Bearers & Night Lords have gained fall back denial, making Gnarlmaws weaker

Just got round to doing the maths on my main list... got enough for another PBC. Better finally get round to painting that 3rd one.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Horde lists with Typhus and some max squads of Pox Walkers sound delicious for board control now. I'm thinking 4 max squads and then whatever to supplement them.

They are slow as feth though, and they still fly off the board if someone wants them gone.

shabadoit wrote:
It is a bit odd the DG prince's got bumped up when Nurgle ones are the same. Maybe it's something that will be cleared up but I won't hold my breath.

Did it get an increase or still stay the same?

 Jidmah wrote:
MBH at 102 sounds awesome though.

Really does, 306 for a unit of 3 is much easier to plug into lists, or separate them into 3 units for a cheapish outrider detachment.




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 Jidmah wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Horde lists with Typhus and some max squads of Pox Walkers sound delicious for board control now. I'm thinking 4 max squads and then whatever to supplement them.

They are slow as feth though, and they still fly off the board if someone wants them gone.

They're not so bad as long you don't expect them to be going for linebreaker. Several blob units zoning out the midfield and your DZ can be incredibly annoying to shift, plus it's always fun catching people off guard when they realise one of those units is S5 T5

And if they get targeted down.. well those 60 pox walkers are only 300 points, which will soak up an armies worth of shooting.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:

shabadoit wrote:
It is a bit odd the DG prince's got bumped up when Nurgle ones are the same. Maybe it's something that will be cleared up but I won't hold my breath.

Did it get an increase or still stay the same?

Sorry, DG one is the same, Nurgle one was made cheaper. The words I used don't actually mean what I meant...