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 Tamwulf wrote:
Rules to become available online, more factions added, and all the terrain will be available separately. Looks like GW is serious about supporting the players again!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/05/shadow-war-armageddon-rules-support/


I don't see where they say the rules will be available online.

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They did mention it in an earlier, now deleted, FB message.

Would also be the quickest way to get them out there.

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Manchu wrote:
OK they even admitted to underestimating demand - at this point there is no need to pile on.

Think about how far this company has come in such a short time: something goes wrong, the customers ask them to fix it, they admit something went wrong, and announce plans to fix it while specifically acknowleding customer feedback. Not long ago, there would have been (a) no venue to address customer concerns, (b) no acknowledment that there is a problem, and (c) nothing at all done.

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Just wait til they relaunch the official forums. Hopefully the more toxic side of the fanbase won't ruin that again.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They did mention it in an earlier, now deleted, FB message.

Would also be the quickest way to get them out there.

To me, 'online' and 'digital' have different meanings.

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 Ghaz wrote:
 Tamwulf wrote:
Rules to become available online, more factions added, and all the terrain will be available separately. Looks like GW is serious about supporting the players again!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/05/shadow-war-armageddon-rules-support/


I don't see where they say the rules will be available online.


They don't say the rules will be available online. What they actually said was...

"We will be making the rules for this game are more widely available, very soon."

"We’ll bring you news on exactly how and when you’ll be able to get ahold of the rules outside of the box, and the new factions, just as soon as we can."

"So, whether it’s the rules for the game or the scenery you’re after, you will be able to get your hands on it."

"More news soon."

Sounds to me like they're trying to work out a plan. Throwing the rules up on WarhammerDigital would make a ton of sense and is probably the easiest option. Making a physical book would require some work and printing. If nothing else, the book in the big box doesn't have a barcode, so would need a new back cover before being ready for solo retail.

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 Elbows wrote:


I'd imagine an eBook format for $X. Again, I'd like to be proven wrong, but nothing in GW's recent history makes me think they'll go either of those first two routes.


The quickest/easiest way to get the rules into people's hands is through an electronic release.

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 Ghaz wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They did mention it in an earlier, now deleted, FB message.

Would also be the quickest way to get them out there.

To me, 'online' and 'digital' have different meanings.


I'm curious. What would you say is the difference between online and digital in the context of a GW rule book?

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It's probably a safe bet that the rules will end up on the Black Library site as an ePub and as an enhanced iBook for a little bit more money. Just like the Kill Team rules. I'm going to guess the price will be higher than Kill Team as the book has four times the page count.

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Glad to hear that the rules will be coming out, im not too bothered about the format either, as long as I can read it, its all good !

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What happy news! Now the only bummer (still a valid bummer) is people who wanted the moneysaving box set, red templates and counters, but at least they wont be frozen out completely and there's decent life in the game if the rules are going to be available separately and more factions are being added. Yay

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 Kriswall wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They did mention it in an earlier, now deleted, FB message.

Would also be the quickest way to get them out there.

To me, 'online' and 'digital' have different meanings.


I'm curious. What would you say is the difference between online and digital in the context of a GW rule book?

'Online' by itself could be like the PDF for the different factions. 'Digital' or 'Online as an e-book' would be an epub, etc.

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 Ghaz wrote:
 Kriswall wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They did mention it in an earlier, now deleted, FB message.

Would also be the quickest way to get them out there.

To me, 'online' and 'digital' have different meanings.


I'm curious. What would you say is the difference between online and digital in the context of a GW rule book?

'Online' by itself would be like the PDF for the different factions. 'Digital' or 'Online as an e-book' would be an epub, etc.


Ah. Gotcha.

It'll be interesting to see what they end up doing. It looks like most factions will be able to field a team for about $50. It'll be insane, but standard GW operating policy, if the rule aren't SIGNIFICANTLY below that.

Also, I tried to shorten Shadow War Armageddon down to SWA, but that clearly means Star Wars Armada in the table top miniatures world. First world problems.

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This is definitely good news. I just hope that if they do a digital release they give us an option for a pdf. GW's new rules ebooks format (aka Kill Team) is terrible , I can't read it on my Kindle, it doesn't work well on my my phone, and out of 7 or 8 ebook readers on my computer none of them format it correctly. Not to mention no option to print.

 
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Significant Update.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/05/shadow-war-armageddon-rules-support/

Rules coming very soon. Extra factions coming soon.

Hands held up 'we messed this up and utterly underestimated demand'


I wouldn't say this is significant, quite the opposite in fact.

It says the exact same thing it did Saturday, just with some pictures and a few more words! Its not even very well written, seems rather rushed, and considering its several days after the event, I was expecting a much better, and more concise response, being that they waited until half way through the week to repeat what they said on facebook Saturday.

The only real additional thing is the part about extra factions. But even then , that was kinda a given, considering they hinted at white dwarf printing them over the next few months anyway.

Oh well, looks like I will be sticking to my older, free GW rule sets, and spending my cash on other things.

   
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Is that... new Necromunda artwork? Please tell me it's new.
   
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gungo wrote:
I'm still confused on how people are suppose to play this game without the dice.
Scatter dice are available. Sustained Fire is just a D3.

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More factions sounds promising.
   
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Manchu wrote:
gungo wrote:
I'm still confused on how people are suppose to play this game without the dice.
Scatter dice are available. Sustained Fire is just a D3.

D3's are available as well.

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 TheWaspinator wrote:
More factions sounds promising.
Yeah - and pretty much a no brainer seeing as how many of the Kill Team bundles are currently OOS ...
Hold up, that doesn't look like GW's site!
 BrookM wrote:
The artwork depicts Lieutenant Tyna Ulanti
I've heard of hair like a rat nest but hair like a servo-sull nest?
 RexHavoc wrote:
It says the exact same thing it did Saturday
Incorrect. On Saturday, the message was that they would sell a digital version. Today's message is that the rules will be available again - format undisclosed. Furthermore, there was no mention on Saturday of making more lists available.
 RexHavoc wrote:
they waited until half way through the week
LOL do you think the employees were just sitting around villainously twirling their moustaches? First, they have their regular work to do beyond damage control for the weekend feeding frenzy. Second, it's not just a matter of snapping one's fingers and the perfect solution - whatever that may be - magically appears. Third, after reaching a decision on how to try to solve this they still need to see if that is logistically feasible. A response within three workdays, vague though it may be, is a huge step in the right direction for a company that only shortly before barely acknowledged the existence of the humans buying their products.

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Manchu wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
The artwork depicts Lieutenant Tyna Ulanti
I've heard of hair like a rat nest but hair like a servo-sull nest?
Well, she is an Ulanti, distantly related to Mad Donna somewhere along the way as well.



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 BrookM wrote:
distantly related to Mad Donna somewhere along the way as well
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 Mymearan wrote:


Is that... new Necromunda artwork? Please tell me it's new.


Doesn't she look just fine

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Mymearan wrote:


Is that... new Necromunda artwork? Please tell me it's new.


Doesn't she look just fine
It's the latest in upper-hive fashion.



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this is good news, I'd like a printed book for collecting, but I think this would work better as a PDF living rulebook kinda thing

 
   
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 Necros wrote:
but I think this would work better as a PDF living rulebook kinda thing
Eh the rules are pretty simple and also very well tested at this point. The core is pretty stable. I'd like to see it expanded via "battletomes" or maybe Annuals collecting WD content.
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