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 Prometheum5 wrote:
For anyone wondering how my Clan Invasion scenario went, I was the IS Periphery OpFor and we did not kill a single Clan 'Mech I nearly crippled an Adder and the best I did was to tag the Star Commander's Cauldron Borne with a MG to the cockpit and knock the pilot unconscious for a turn, which I took advantage of to kick while they were down with my Thunderbolt.

What was the force disposition?

 Miguelsan wrote:

 Prometheum5 wrote:
For anyone wondering how my Clan Invasion scenario went, I was the IS Periphery OpFor and we did not kill a single Clan 'Mech I nearly crippled an Adder and the best I did was to tag the Star Commander's Cauldron Borne with a MG to the cockpit and knock the pilot unconscious for a turn, which I took advantage of to kick while they were down with my Thunderbolt.

Working as intended!

M.

Edit: I hate the Clans.

Ha! Freebirth scum!

Wait what Clan were you up against? Please say it wasn't Clan Wolf... Oh, the embarrassment

I'm with HBMC here. it depends on what era. if it as 4th succession war era stuff (where a clan ER medium laser is equal in almost every way to an IS large laser minus 1 point of damage) then it is a no brainer that the clans are going to roll face over the IS unless they can trick them into zellbrigen duels and wear them down. with a standard force multiplier of 1.3/1 there is a chance but it grows increasingly viable for an IS victory by 3055+

I've done 5 Clan 'Mechs vs a full IS Company and rolled over the IS 'Mechs, and they weren't IntroTech either.

Did you run standard pilots?

We always run 4/5 for IS and 3/4 for clan with the commanders for each force being an elite with one better stats.

I have had some very close games when i put clans VS IS. in the 3055+ era

I just put together/painted a thunderbird ASF i had sitting in the cabinet, i think i will get it on the table this weekend.



Also i have officially ran out of space in my battletech case for minis....maybe i do not need an entire flat of battle armor units. or do i?

I think it also depends if you are playing a scenario, or straight kill them all battle. IS troops trying to get away from a superior Clan force might be more interesting than 400 v 400 ton haveing at it.

M.


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 aphyon wrote:

I just put together/painted a thunderbird ASF i had sitting in the cabinet, i think i will get it on the table this weekend.



Also i have officially ran out of space in my battletech case for minis....maybe i do not need an entire flat of battle armor units. or do i?

I painted a FedRat Valk and found out it doesn't fit in the box with the other FedRats

M.

i have an entire bag of visigoths, i think i will be handing them out this weekend.

Also clans should never be equal force VS IS they should always be outnumbered to make up for their better pilots and weapons. the official trade off is 1.3/1 or 2 lances per star. in my long experience it works out pretty close.

If you look at that battle i posted from 2 weeks ago the ghost bears VS marik the bears were using mostly 2nd line mechs VS a marik player running all the power gaming he could muster(obsessed with TAG, semi-guided munitions and ECM everywhere). and the bears took out an entire lance in 2 turns (well most of it in one). the bears lost that game but only because of some epic head hits. the star commanders behemoth took no damage anywhere else, just a heavy PPC to the face for example.

For general pick up games IE not a campaign or scenario. BV and tonnage do not work as a balancing mechanic. the 1/1 conversion for identical forces or the 1.3/1 when IS fight clans as recommended does because the crit system exists and negates any perceived benefit. especially when using the more realistic (for the setting) forced withdrawal and safecon rules.

We were running the Assault mission track from ER:3052. Clan Diamond Shark binary (wrote some fluff for a small task force of DS doing a ride-along with the Falcons and actually getting to participate in the invasion). They had a medium/heavy force with one 'Mech swapped for a point of Elementals to try. I was running a company off the Periphery RAT in the same book since we're starting with a couple fights on Gotterdamerung before they reach the IS proper. I had basically all the bog-standard mechs you can think of, rolled a 1 for the force distro so 4 lights, 4 mediums, 4 heavies, with one medium swapped for a Heavy Tracked Vehicle using the simplified vee rules from the new Tukayyid book. 3/4 pilots for the Clan with the Star Commander having earned being a 3/3 thru their Trial of Position, and 4/5s for the IS with the commander being a 2/2 per the scenario, mounted in an Orion that took an AC10 crit like three turns in. By the end of turn 6 or 7 I think, it was down to an Archer who had hung back the whole game, a Phoenix Hawk who had so far dodged any hate, a Jenner that was surrounded by problems, and maybe one more straggler who was in a bad way. The IS force opted to retreat, which leads into the Pursuit mission we'll run next.

From Everything Battletech on FB:

 aphyon wrote:
Also clans should never be equal force VS IS they should always be outnumbered to make up for their better pilots and weapons. the official trade off is 1.3/1 or 2 lances per star. in my long experience it works out pretty close.

Indeed, and that 1.3:1 ratio only really applies to units running Star League stuff, like with CASE and such. If you're using Introtech/4SW equipment, then it's probably closer to a Company to a Star. BV can help balance that even further.

Also Clanners want as close a fight as they can get to both win glory and to make the battle "efficient". With their "glory", they can attain Bloodnames, rank, and authority.

Interestingly enough, I've noticed that with AS, Clan tech isn't quite as useful, as even though they CASE everything, their use of XL engines in almost everything makes their Structure absolutely horrible and easier to kill. Sure, their Attack numbers tend to be higher, but they can't take it in return. It does get better with Multiple Attack Rolls, too.

Edit: I have found it interesting that the Clans adopted a 5 man unit for their standard considering their desire to make things even. It's almost like, "I have a Star, but to face your Lance, I'll pair off 3 of them and face you with my 2 lightest units". Like they never expect to actually USE their advantage in numbers their organization gives. But I guess fighting the same standard for 200 years can make anything stagnant.

We tend to play with 3050+ so the 1.3/1 ratio seems to work just fine for us. when we play older era stuff the clans usually are not around, so it isn't really an issue (other than more stuff exploding).

If that new Pouncer model is accurate to the photo, I've just found my stand in for the Hammerhead until they get around to releasing the official model. All it needs is a fist and some shoulder slabs!

 Gitzbitah wrote:
If that new Pouncer model is accurate to the photo, I've just found my stand in for the Hammerhead until they get around to releasing the official model. All it needs is a fist and some shoulder slabs!

Yes, it looks like the concept sketch I've seen of the new Pouncer. Future artwork that features 'mechs that have been redesigned and have a 3D sculpt will use that sculpt as a reference for tha artist(s). No longer will the same 'mech look radically different based on which artist is doing the artwork.

Interested to see how different the alternate variants are.

For instance, the Masakari in the box is meant to be a C (hence the flamer!).

Those Highlanders are surely getting pounded. No solid hit on the clanners, and two IS mechs are going to be missing arms in 0.5 seconds.

M.

Updated pic of the Northwind Highlanders box with the Gunslinger instead of the stand-in Atlas (and an updated Grasshopper)...

I hate that we will be waiting 4-6 months minimum for half this stuff to hit shelves.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I hate that we will be waiting 4-6 months minimum for half this stuff to hit shelves.

At least we know we are getting something. For BattleTech this is an absolutely huge amount of product coming down the line...

 Ghaz wrote:
First sketch of the new Maxim Hover Transport.

These pleases me, as my company uses Maxims to carry my Infantry.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
First sketch of the new Maxim Hover Transport.

These pleases me, as my company uses Maxims to carry my Infantry.

We did a campaign mission a couple weeks ago, and part of our job was to escort a couple Maxims carrying a platoon of engineers each, and the engineers were to de-fuse explosives on 3 bridges.

They worked pretty well as transports and pretty decent as weapon platforms, with some very interesting weapon configurations, like the broadside SRM-2s and rear-firing LRM-5.

What Warhammer is that? Config looks like a 6D.

beast_gts wrote:
From Everything Battletech on FB:

Spoiler:

A Wraith? One of these things is not like the others...
Glad they really upgraded that art, though. The original design was laughable.
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:TR-Wraith.png


I do like the locust and the stinger visibly wanting no part of this scrum.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What Warhammer is that? Config looks like a 6D.

A couple of posters on the BattleTech Forums say it looks like a 7S.

Oh, yeah, I 'spose those things on it shoulders could be Streak 2's.

And Streak 2 ammo in the CT. And the same 73% total armour coverage as the 6R. Ouch...

There's a reason I like the 6D.

And speaking of Warhammers, he finally finished it:

What, you have not watched it already?

I also enjoy critical rockets channel about all things battletech

When it comes to warhammers i usually run the 8D it has the full package of weapons and a C3 slave for kurita goodness, ocasionally i will run the 9D if i need a sniper. but the XLs make it far less durable.

Oh I watched it the day it came out. Made popcorn and everything. It's a fething fantastic video, and the comparison to the WarShip construction problem was so well put together.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh I watched it the day it came out. Made popcorn and everything. It's a fething fantastic video, and the comparison to the WarShip construction problem was so well put together.

glad to know I am not the only one who watches Tex with popcorn (and everything)

 Charistoph wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
First sketch of the new Maxim Hover Transport.

These pleases me, as my company uses Maxims to carry my Infantry.

We did a campaign mission a couple weeks ago, and part of our job was to escort a couple Maxims carrying a platoon of engineers each, and the engineers were to de-fuse explosives on 3 bridges.

They worked pretty well as transports and pretty decent as weapon platforms, with some very interesting weapon configurations, like the broadside SRM-2s and rear-firing LRM-5.

Gotta have something to cover you when you inevitably have to run away lol. I might look at doing the SRM2 to Turret mod Sarna talks about.

Was there a card for the Wolfhound IIC from Catalyst Games or no?

They haven't made a Wolfhound IIC in plastic, so probably not.