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My impression as well, but in a good way. I don't have any adventures that call for undead humanoids (and I have some better ones including skeletons from Johnny Lauck, ObPlug for his current KS (: so these sculpts could pass for regular humanoids that are unarmed. When not on the warpath, orcs are portrayed as becoming bored (and would probably start drinking the fermented stuff!), while goblins would find something smaller than themselves to torture. Yet, pretty much all the humanoid miniatures I have have some weapon and attack mode stance.

Okay, time to find $125.

 DaveC wrote:
No EBs confirmed guess CMoN have decided to do away with them.

It's a good thing to simplify pledging, given that GH will fund, and fund quickly EBs or not.

Orc Abombination



Pity it's a digital render I'll miss Jason Hendricks take on the Abombinations particularly the ones he did with being commissioned to do them.

The more I'm seeing the more I'm willing to pass on this one. I think I would have been more excited for just plain orcs and not zombie orcs. They should have spun off Orcicide, then Verminicide(ratmen), then highlordicide(lizardman) that way they could keep a theme going and bulk out the massive darkness enemies at the same time. I get that they are known for zombies, but I like the gameplay and it could be aliens for all it's worth.

I'll still go in for a buck, in case there's something I can't live without as a stretch goal, but off to spend my $$$ on something else that's been drawing me the last few weeks.

 Theophony wrote:
They should have spun off Orcicide, then Verminicide(ratmen), then highlordicide(lizardman).

Don't be a bittersweet theophony, or someone's name is going in the reptile's Book of Grudges!

Has anyone done any comparisons to how the orcs and goblins in this compare to the ones in Massive Darkness?

Until the CMON expo, I had forgotten we already have CMON making Greenskins that are tied into the whole Zcide

highlord tamburlaine wrote:Has anyone done any comparisons to how the orcs and goblins in this compare to the ones in Massive Darkness?

They seem to be the same basic style as the Massive Darkness orcs and goblins.

Just paint 'em green and treat 'em as orcs. That'll teach the players to underestimate the greenskins!

 Theophony wrote:
The more I'm seeing the more I'm willing to pass on this one. I think I would have been more excited for just plain orcs and not zombie orcs. They should have spun off Orcicide, then Verminicide(ratmen), then highlordicide(lizardman) that way they could keep a theme going and bulk out the massive darkness enemies at the same time. I get that they are known for zombies, but I like the gameplay and it could be aliens for all it's worth.

I'll still go in for a buck, in case there's something I can't live without as a stretch goal, but off to spend my $$$ on something else that's been drawing me the last few weeks.

Same here - BUT doesn't CMON usually NOT let you 'just' buy addons if you don't buy in at at least the 'base game' level?

 Alpharius wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
The more I'm seeing the more I'm willing to pass on this one. I think I would have been more excited for just plain orcs and not zombie orcs. They should have spun off Orcicide, then Verminicide(ratmen), then highlordicide(lizardman) that way they could keep a theme going and bulk out the massive darkness enemies at the same time. I get that they are known for zombies, but I like the gameplay and it could be aliens for all it's worth.

I'll still go in for a buck, in case there's something I can't live without as a stretch goal, but off to spend my $$$ on something else that's been drawing me the last few weeks.

Same here - BUT doesn't CMON usually NOT let you 'just' buy addons if you don't buy in at at least the 'base game' level?

Yes, my poor explanation was due to laziness. I meant I'll chuck in a buck to later go to a full pledge in the manager if something pops up that I MUST have.

 Theophony wrote:
The more I'm seeing the more I'm willing to pass on this one. I think I would have been more excited for just plain orcs and not zombie orcs.

What, specifically, about these Orcs makes them "zombified"?

It's a Zombicide aesthetic, to be sure, but if you just play them (or field them in Fantasy), is there an issue?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
The more I'm seeing the more I'm willing to pass on this one. I think I would have been more excited for just plain orcs and not zombie orcs.

What, specifically, about these Orcs makes them "zombified"?

It's a Zombicide aesthetic, to be sure, but if you just play them (or field them in Fantasy), is there an issue?

Besides the bite marks, broken bones, stupid walking poses and the wood chunks driven all the way through them I'll still go in for $1 in case it blows up, but I would have preferred a full reskin with living orcs instead of zombie orcs.

 Theophony wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
The more I'm seeing the more I'm willing to pass on this one. I think I would have been more excited for just plain orcs and not zombie orcs.

What, specifically, about these Orcs makes them "zombified"?

It's a Zombicide aesthetic, to be sure, but if you just play them (or field them in Fantasy), is there an issue?

Besides the bite marks, broken bones, stupid walking poses and the wood chunks driven all the way through them I'll still go in for $1 in case it blows up, but I would have preferred a full reskin with living orcs instead of zombie orcs.

I'm pretty sure the render posted earlier shows the Orc Fatty is disemboweled in a similar fashion to the Z:BP Fatties.

 DaveC wrote:
Orc Abombination

OK, and what about this says "Zombie"?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
OK, and what about this says "Zombie"?

The huge swollen middle and ring fingers. Duh!

Well, at least I know what color to paint those "shards" sticking out of the Abomination bodies. In modern-day Z, I wasn't sure if they were bone, glass, or metal stuck in their bodies. Now I know it's bone. Or wood. Okay, still not sure. This is going to be a stretch if I want them to pass as "living" orcs and call all this stuff "ritual scarring".

ced1106 wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
OK, and what about this says "Zombie"?

The huge swollen middle and ring fingers. Duh!

Well, at least I know what color to paint those "shards" sticking out of the Abomination bodies. In modern-day Z, I wasn't sure if they were bone, glass, or metal stuck in their bodies. Now I know it's bone. Or wood. Okay, still not sure. This is going to be a stretch if I want them to pass as "living" orcs and call all this stuff "ritual scarring".

And the wood chunks in his legs, shoulder and back. The proportions are also off.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it, especially for the Abom. It could just as well be a regular, battle-scarred Orc.

It has a cat sized skull and the lower jaw of an elephant. Even for an orc, it's pretty ridiculous.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Sorry, but I'm not buying it, especially for the Abom. It could just as well be a regular, battle-scarred Orc.

Oh your RIGHT, how dare I have an opinion

No, it's not that you can't have an opinion. It's that your opinion is bad. None of those particular things are especially zombie-like. The Abom isn't obviously dead & rotting. At all. It looks alive and whole. :eyeroll:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
No, it's not that you can't have an opinion. It's that your opinion is bad. None of those particular things are especially zombie-like. The Abom isn't obviously dead & rotting. At all. It looks alive and whole. :eyeroll:

The Abom definitely looks more like a mutant orc than a zombie orc. While I agree with you that making the orcs and goblins more zombified would be better it's not a big deal to me. Having "zombie" orcs that are easier to blend in with regular orcs is fine since it makes the models more versatile and the zombieness of the models doesn't affect the gameplay. I have plenty of orcs coming to me in the Reaper Bones KS that I can use instead if the models really bother me.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
No, it's not that you can't have an opinion. It's that your opinion is bad. None of those particular things are especially zombie-like. The Abom isn't obviously dead & rotting. At all. It looks alive and whole. :eyeroll:

They're green too

Prestor Jon wrote:
The Abom definitely looks more like a mutant orc than a zombie orc.

Good point. I'll just stat him up as an orc and make my own KoW regiment!

None of the Zombicide abominations look particularly like zombies. I think they're more in the vein of Resident Evil's other monsters that were somehow mutated by the same stuff causing the zombie outbreak.

I've got no explanation for the stuff sticking out of them though, that doesn't work aesthetically or logically on the other Zombicide versions and it doesn't work here either.

Mhmm yeah Abominations have been described as mutants more so than zombies - https://zombicide.com/en/pg/abomination/

But the other orcs could be a bit more distinctly Zombifide that said we have only seen 1 pose for each and stretch goals normally add alt poses (you now those fake stretch goals that should have been in the box from the start )

ecurtz wrote:
None of the Zombicide abominations look particularly like zombies. I think they're more in the vein of Resident Evil's other monsters that were somehow mutated by the same stuff causing the zombie outbreak.

I've got no explanation for the stuff sticking out of them though, that doesn't work aesthetically or logically on the other Zombicide versions and it doesn't work here either.

True, Aboms are boss monsters a la ResEvil bosses.

Agreed that the stuff sticking out is a strange Zombicide choice, but it does visually distinguish a Zombicide zombie from a generic zombie.

The catapult was a siege weapon used to launch projectiles at large targets, aiming to cause maximum damage. The inventors might not have ever envisioned that target to be a big group of Orc zombies that have gathered too close together, but that’s just what the Survivors are going to be able to use it for in Zombicide: Green Horde. They’ll need that kind of medieval firepower when huge packs of undead Orcs start entering the board in unpredictable ways. Today we get our first look at the resin preview.

Zombicide: Green Horde is coming to Kickstarter on May 30.

Okay, part of me is glad to get a cool big model, but really, do we need a catapult on a game board the size of Zombicide ?

I know, right?

Although...how big is the playing area going to be here?

2 x boards, or more?

I might be wrong but I thought the horde spawned off the board, so is this just a prop to control to reduce the horde size before it enters play?

Hell of an expensive prop then, but sure, why not?!?