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Plenty of people selling individual cards for fairly gougey prices on eBay, yeah. I mean... it isn't gougey, it's fair enough... but buying the warband cards will end up costing more than buying the warband would have

Anyone know what the deal with the dice is this season? They've released two larger generic packs instead of faction specific ones, which makes me think we won't get faction dice?

deano2099 wrote:
Anyone know what the deal with the dice is this season? They've released two larger generic packs instead of faction specific ones, which makes me think we won't get faction dice?

I’m guessing when the Vampires come out we’ll get a death set, and when the savage Orruks come out we’ll get destruction, but no warband specific ones this time for whatever reason.

It's probably easier for GW to stock generic packs ordered in more volume than lots of individual packs.

Esp since the individual ones always run out of stock at some stage (though often remain in stock physically at a lot of stores and 3rd parties)

Is it possible it was Civid related. Where are the dice made?
Were things getting behind so they cancelled half of the dice sets, and set up packaging for larger sets (if that’s possible).

I mean, the order dice are for sure the lumineth ones right? They fit them.

Not really, GW tends to be rather haphazard with accessories for their game both in what gets ordered and in how long they might stock them for. Even core parts of the game can be only one time ordered.

Heck Tyranids didn't get dice and yet almost every other 40K army got dice during the last edition updates.

Fair enough.
It matters not to me anyway, I don’t get the dice.
I found out that the faction dice aren’t biased towards rolling well for their own warband, so there’s no need for them

I do have the Eyes dice though, but only because I got a steal of a deal on the warband. (£15 for models, cards, their dice, magic dice set and a WHU carry case).
But generally, the starter set dice will do me fine.

I got Beastgrave to play with my Nephews, And Grymwatch for me. NEver got a chance to play with with him(He said miniatures are kinda lame, he prefer scale models)
But im soo getting the Crimson Court just for how cool they are.

The dice and sleeves are third party, which given Covid might have had an effect on their usual suppliers.

Death Guard didn't get any new dice despite being one of 40k's more popular armies now. The Underworlds dice typically sold out relatively quickly as well - they didn't go overnight or anything, but they usually went away within a few months, certainly quicker than some of the Necromunda sets.

I think they were stocking the generic Underworlds sleeves for years until recently as well?

 Arbitrator wrote:


I think they were stocking the generic Underworlds sleeves for years until recently as well?

They were, in a huge pack of plenty of Power and Glory sleeves. Very useful.

I'm hoping they bring sleeves back for Season 4, I really like having the custom sleeves for my cards. The Season 3 sleeve packs were a huge improvement too, having a few extras incase you broke some.

I am quite surprised they didn't do a Direchasm playmat either.

The Chaos dice were sufficiently generic they sold out very quick, it was a pain to get them.

Does anyone have North American pricing on the new warband?

angryboy2k wrote:
Does anyone have North American pricing on the new warband?

$35

Yeah I assumed the idea would be to have these larger dice packs for the entire season, but they already seem to have vanished off GW's website.

Having Death and Destruction ones makes sense though, as there's two sets of dice plus magic dice in each pack, so four of these packs would leave you with one set for each faction as per usual.

They upped the price of the new warbands to $40 (in freedom dollars)??? What did I do to them?

 frankelee wrote:
They upped the price of the new warbands to $40 (in freedom dollars)??? What did I do to them?

Freedom ain't free.

Yeah. This sucks. I think you’re in the same state in the US but in Canada this is the third price increase on warbands in a single year. Last January in Canada our warbands cost $35 plus tax. Then they upped the price to $38 for Nightvault warbands and $39 for Beastgrave warbands. Then the orcs and the witch elf warbands came out and they were $45. And today this latest warband is $50. A 43% price increase over the course of a year.
Sales tax in BC is 12%, so if I want to continue supporting my local store through this pandemic I’ll be paying $56 (£32) at full retail.
WTF GW? You’re making record profits, but you’re continuing to put the squeeze on just because.
And just to be clear, before any white knighting begins, I’ve been a GW sucker since 1988 so I’m not stranger to their policies. This just happens to stand out even in thirty years of gouging as being particularly bad.

Well, I guess instead of buying the Chaos Warriors and the Vampires, I choose one. Your loss, GW. 20 years of price hikes are getting tiresome.

Yeah, getting rewarded for GW's record year with record price hikes kind of really sucks.

GW helps customers give up their plastic crack addiction.

Well, I will still be getting the Ravagers as I love the band and Underworlds is one of my favorite games but these price hikes are pretty absurd.

In a year Warbands have went from 30 to 33 to 35 and now to 40? When GW is breaking all kinds of sales records?

Seems more than a bit excessive. At least I don't play any other GW games anymore so I'm not being hit by those absurd price hikes.

Cronch wrote:
Pre-brexit price rises, post-brexit price rises, coming next: Aquarius in conjunction with Jupiter price rises.

Back in MAH day we didn't get no reasons fer ou'r prises rise'n! It just happen'.


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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Well, I guess instead of buying the Chaos Warriors and the Vampires, I choose one. Your loss, GW. 20 years of price hikes are getting tiresome.

And THIS is why GW loses sales when they push things too far. Like seriously, were they just not getting margins off the 35? /s

 Sabotage! wrote:
In a year Warbands have went from 30 to 33 to 35 and now to 40? When GW is breaking all kinds of sales records?

This all nicely sums it up.
Customer sees high profits at current price levels and sees no reason to have them (the prices) increase further.
Company sees high profits at current price levels and sees a reason to increase them (both prices and profits) further.

It's a shame, but I suppose not unexpected. Whenever GW has a product that people say is pretty decent value for money, it rarely lasts for long...

People will keep buying "because it's cool" and price will keep hiking.

People bought the 60US$ BSF expansion, so this game having more models might justify for GW to hike price to that mark, just slowly, 10$ each year.

I'm not really familiar with the game, isn't a Warband box basically all you need to play the game, or is there an expectation of expanding beyond that?

If a box is all you need to play, it can justify a higher price.

The Primaris release is much more egregious to me because not only are they expensive, they are no where near constituting a whole force.

But then I'm not really familiar with Warbands, I'm assuming the box is all you need or want to play.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm not really familiar with the game, isn't a Warband box basically all you need to play the game, or is there an expectation of expanding beyond that?

If a box is all you need to play, it can justify a higher price.

The Primaris release is much more egregious to me because not only are they expensive, they are no where near constituting a whole force.

But then I'm not really familiar with Warbands, I'm assuming the box is all you need or want to play.

You need one of the starters really, but each warband box is all you really need for that faction (although there are upgrade cards and stuff that any faction can take in each warband box so to stay competitive you might need more warband boxes).

I do think they’re still not bad value, tbh, for a bit more than they charge for the average character you get 3-7 models and the cards. Just stings knowing they’ve gone up £7.50 in a couple of years.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm not really familiar with the game, isn't a Warband box basically all you need to play the game, or is there an expectation of expanding beyond that?

If a box is all you need to play, it can justify a higher price.

The Primaris release is much more egregious to me because not only are they expensive, they are no where near constituting a whole force.

But then I'm not really familiar with Warbands, I'm assuming the box is all you need or want to play.

Still need board and special die, If you can't play with GW primaris battleforce, then you pretty much won't be able to play this game seriously with the card from a single box. Some of them you can't even play i,e : warbands has no spell caster but they give magic cards in the box.

This is not a miniature game, this is card game, usually there'll be 1 or 2 "good" universal cards from each warband expansion. If you don't have all the good cards of the current seasons you'll be at disadvantage and had to rely more on good dice roll and card draw to win.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I'm not really familiar with the game, isn't a Warband box basically all you need to play the game, or is there an expectation of expanding beyond that?

Technically yes, but in practise it's one of the only games GW actually pushes as a competitive game (as opposed to everything else where they'd really, really, really prefer you just do narrative so they don't have to think too hard about writing the rules). It's often described as a 'LCG with models' and it's not that big of an exaggeration, as cards useable by every warband are included in every new expansion, therefore making them lucrative for those who play the game with a bigger circle than two of their friends.

Previously if you did want to keep up with Da Meta it wasn't too bad, because £17-20 every month or two (originally warbands came out in pairs every quarter) isn't bad by GW standards. The problem now is that price is being cranked up literally every year and those 'little' price increases add up (consider that in three years it's now £8 more expensive per warband, so you're looking at about £48 increase versus Shadespire). If this were 40k where the paypiggies will cough up money for literally anything and still have millions of players that'd be fine, but Underworlds is one of those games GW can very easily tank by their own ineptitude when the newblood dries up and the existing players get disenfranchised.

Yeah, it's definitely a game where you need to purchase more than one warband, unlike say Necromunda or Warcry. You can get by with less, but your experience will be increasingly diminished, and as that experience gets diminished more players drop out. They also get plenty of sales from people who just want the models for AoS, or anything else, but if they hit a rough patch where the releases don't wow those model collectors, and they've choked out a significant amount of their player-base, then the execs are going to see plummeting sales and declare the product line dead.

Wonder how the prices for the separately available models (released for AoS without the cards) will be affected. They previously remained the same when the Underworlds warbands went up, but either the full range or at least the newer releases may not stay that way for long then.