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chaos0xomega wrote:
I am underwhelmed

As am I, but only because they are using a night elf warband. The new Skaven look pretty sweet.

I'm really wanting to see a modern Cities of Sigmar style warband -- could be a good way to bring back a witch hunter and warrior priest!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/04/15/revealed-morathis-aelves-clash-with-eshin-assassins-in-warhammer-underworlds-nethermaze/

Elves- I only like the guy with a crossbow.
Rats - clearly the winners here.

Awesome Skaven - some cool Elves - a must buy then

 porkuslime wrote:
I dont see an article for the Skaven.. is that cause USA based? I wannaaaa see dem!

I had the same until I clicked ''All News''

What has always stopped or stalled me on the boxes is loving one warband and the other just being ok.
But for this. Eshin super high tier look.
Then elves also like the look enough to be happy with having them.

Holy cow those Skaven have the worst Inspire condition.

"Kill the enemy leader"

You will never Inspire in a large majority of matches with that, especially if it is against ANY warband with a 5-6 wound mini.

Nice to finally see the actual models. The rats are nice, but I'm not really into Skaven. The elves do nothing for me. I'm kind of glad, actually. No temptation to buy the expensive starter box because I like some of the models.

Digging Eshin.

Not quite so much for Miss Cobra Commander faceplate.

 GrosseSax wrote:
Digging Eshin.

Not quite so much for Miss Cobra Commander faceplate.

Miss Cobra Commander...clearly the Baroness is borrowing the faceplate...

I like both of these teams, but the Skaven are the clear winners. The sheer flavor of the Eshin poses are a win. The Aelves are good, but the Skaven have a much better pressence.

Abs: the most invulnerable part of the body.
Also apparently hand crossbows are just the best at toning the abs. You're just not going to get a six-pack only by knifing people.

Overall meh, especially the elves. The skaven assassins seem pretty plain/interchangeable with past assassins, and the other two look barely a step above the old monkey skaven.
And these are more Morathi-elves, not shadow elves. Ok, then.


A few rumor engine pics people had tentatively labelled 'cursed city' are solved by the skaven.

All that climbing and sneaking about to get into position.

Really digging this starter set, love the Skaven and the Elves are pretty cool also - though I’m a bit bummed we got more Morathi elves and not Malerion’s elves- I’m really interested to see what they looked like. Either way humongous improvement over the last starter.

Would have preferred the Witch Hunter band against the Skaven, but we will see them soon enough by the sounds of it.

What I’m really not stoked about is adding yet more keywords and rules bloat to a game that really doesn’t need it. I guess since we really only play Rivals + we don’t need to worry about it too much, but I imagine if you were a competitive player it would be a bit frustrating. Especially as there is so much design space in the game that doesn’t need more keywords/special rules to do cool things with.

Both sides are extremely good. Will probably be the first core box i get since the very first one.

Hey it's Warcry Catacombs leftovers

Did we really need an underworld group that's from warcry (ok, silver tower, but warcry is the big one.)

Warcry is full of unique looking models. And if you mix and match the units from this set with the other one, I couldn't tell you which was from what set (even the bases don't help)

But man, those are some nice skaven

Bravo mini designers!

I’ve no interest in the actual game, but Underworld continues to produce some of the best looking minis. I must, at some point, buy a few just to paint.

I don’t like the elves, I wasn’t keen on them in Warcry and these are just reposed copies pretty much. The Skaven however are excellent.

I like the elves, but they feel like something GW has done already. I'm used to seeing Underworlds provide a fresh spin and this feels like just an extension of the Warcry set. If anything almost just alternative models for it instead of a dedicated unique warband for Underworld.

I like them but they don't feel as fresh as what I'm used to seeing from Underworld.

Skaven are interesting! If just because they've had so few new releases (though did well during End Times for totally new stuff); but also to see the art direction. For a time Skaven were getting pretty bald. A symptom I think of people painting the arms almost fully in skin tones with fur patches because plastics don't have full fur texturing like the old metal models did. So seeing these ones with almost the opposite, almost fully furred arms is interesting. One day GW will land on the ideal -furry arms and skin claws.

The models are rather cool but it looks like Harrowdeep again but with different teams.

Unless Nethermaze has anything new to offer, like narrative/solo play or some interesting game mechanic, then I'll shall stick with Direchasm.

Not normally much of a Skaven person, but those are really nice!
The Elves are also pretty good, particularly crossbow guy. Definately an improvement over that massively disappointing (IMO) zombie crew.

I want about 6 copies of the Skaven and none of the rest. I'm gunna be out of luck for a while methinks...

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I want about 6 copies of the Skaven and none of the rest. I'm gunna be out of luck for a while methinks...

Given that the seasons are much shorter now, that won't be too long. I expect we'll see the Harrowdeep teams( stormcasts & Kruleboyz ) sold individually very shortly.

Yay

Skaven are great, as I had hoped.. elves are pleasant too..

Although honestly, the guy with the crossbow could double as a human, and I do NOT understand the moons on chains attached to the Elven Queenie's breastplate..

Wow those Skaven are bad! Their proportions are way too human, and what’s with the bald heads and furless arms??? The Elves are uninspired.

Oh, neat. They updated the 20+ year old Gutter Runner sculpts into plastic, finally. Only downside is it's groups of 5 in a £60+ box.

The Shadowstalkers do nothing - I mean, alternative sculpts are nice for a unit with monopose sculpts, but not in blocks of 4 like that.

But hey, updated plastic Gutter Runners though. Neat.

Skaven looks cool, Shadow Elves are not, same guys, same weapon, and they do looks like they're leftover sculpt from Warcry.

Skaven are nice, but the only ones I like are Plague monks so I don't care.

Elves are indeed 'just' Shadowstalkers, but a good addition to the existing ones. Not quite an AoS army with now 13 models, but good enough for Warcry.

And for those who still play WHFB it's a box full of assassins.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Oh, neat. They updated the 20+ year old Gutter Runner sculpts into plastic, finally. Only downside is it's groups of 5 in a £60+ box.

The Shadowstalkers do nothing - I mean, alternative sculpts are nice for a unit with monopose sculpts, but not in blocks of 4 like that.

But hey, updated plastic Gutter Runners though. Neat.

I mean, they'll be released separately (eventually). And even later, they'll debut in grey plastic for a slightly cheaper price, sans cards

SamusDrake wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I want about 6 copies of the Skaven and none of the rest. I'm gunna be out of luck for a while methinks...

Given that the seasons are much shorter now, that won't be too long. I expect we'll see the Harrowdeep teams( stormcasts & Kruleboyz ) sold individually very shortly.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the boxes stay around longer now as everything’s shorter.
(I.e. same amount of time as before till single sales.) but time will tell.


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 Overread wrote:
I like the elves, but they feel like something GW has done already. I'm used to seeing Underworlds provide a fresh spin and this feels like just an extension of the Warcry set. If anything almost just alternative models for it instead of a dedicated unique warband for Underworld.

I like them but they don't feel as fresh as what I'm used to seeing from Underworld.

Skaven are interesting! If just because they've had so few new releases (though did well during End Times for totally new stuff); but also to see the art direction. For a time Skaven were getting pretty bald. A symptom I think of people painting the arms almost fully in skin tones with fur patches because plastics don't have full fur texturing like the old metal models did. So seeing these ones with almost the opposite, almost fully furred arms is interesting. One day GW will land on the ideal -furry arms and skin claws.

Can’t be bothered to count them up but surely it’s about 50/50 for warbands coming out and just being poses of stuff already about..?