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Hmmmmm. If that's the case, a little hard to really judge savings. I mean there is some but...

If its your recut khorne dudes, their value is about 15$ for 5. 30 For Deathbringer (please be spear) and 57 for Wrathmongers Making it 102USD worth of stuff for 65. Not horrible, but a full box would be much better. If its the Standard big axe deathbringer, think I will just buy the book as I really don't want yet another of him, and rather have the full options for the khorne guys

str00dles1 wrote:
Hmmmmm. If that's the case, a little hard to really judge savings. I mean there is some but...

If its your recut khorne dudes, their value is about 15$ for 5. 30 For Deathbringer (please be spear) and 57 for Wrathmongers Making it 102USD worth of stuff for 65. Not horrible, but a full box would be much better. If its the Standard big axe deathbringer, think I will just buy the book as I really don't want yet another of him, and rather have the full options for the khorne guys

Yup, the Flesh Eater Courts set works out to msrp $107 and the Orruks to about $101. So it looks like right around 100 or slightly over, for $65.

My source says Aspiring Deathbringer so that'd be Aspiring Deathbringer with Goreaxe and Skullhammer

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Yeah, waste the flayer before it closes in.

The king is being counted as a basic ghoul, right?

I'm going to have to take notes as I've got my son's Court seeing action against my Overlords soon.

Well the flayer can move 12" then charge (presumably) verses the general 16" range of Bottle's guns, which means he'll probably need to use a juicy target as bait (probably one of the cavalry) who will get shredded but lure the flayer into gun range (and out of cover).

Of course we also need to hope that Bottle's opponent isn't reading this and devising a counter-strategy as we speak, else our favorite pop star is doomed.

At 10 bucks or so, the rules are a no-brainer for me. Can't wait to see how this plays.

How many pages in the $10US book?

Bottle wrote:The Flayer and Horror will be champions to boot! What do you reckon the odds are?

Rob: "fifty-fifty"
Eddie: "within the realms of possibility"

frozenwastes wrote:Is that Freeguild blood splattered all over them?

Ketchup.

 Alpharius wrote:
How many pages in the $10US book?

At GW prices that's probably like 5

 judgedoug wrote:
Here ya go

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$10 for the skirmish book? Did I see right and it is a standalone system? If so, I'm pretty sure that's cheaper than the WHFB Skirmish booklet from way back (wow, I think it's 10+ years old now).. plus I am pretty sure you needed at least army books, and possibly the BRB of the day...

2002 it was $4 USD and 50 pages long. Most of it was scenarios and terrain articles and you did indeed need the full rulebook and the armybook for your army.

2017 it's $10 USD for an unknown number of pages, but you probably don't need any battle tomes and the main rules are free. So you probably just need the skirmish rules and warscrolls either from their website or their app and if you need points, scrollbuilder.com is available.

I'm trying to think of a way for them to structure the new rules document so that you need a battle tome book, but I'm just not coming up with anything.

 Bottle wrote:
This is my opponent Ben's list:



The Flayer and Horror will be champions to boot! What do you reckon the odds are?

I have no idea, but he has far fever models than you. And that thing on the tall rock is really beautiful. What model is that? Is it a conversion?

In any case, this AoS Skirmish seems absolutely splendid. I love modelling varied things, and this game allows me to grab a bunch of models from different factions and make lovely little warbands without having to commit to building a full army. I hope that the rules are decent.

 MLaw wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Here ya go

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$10 for the skirmish book? Did I see right and it is a standalone system? If so, I'm pretty sure that's cheaper than the WHFB Skirmish booklet from way back (wow, I think it's 10+ years old now).. plus I am pretty sure you needed at least army books, and possibly the BRB of the day...

The Skirmish book was $5 I think, back in the day.


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 Crimson wrote:

I have no idea, but he has far fever models than you. And that thing on the tall rock is really beautiful. What model is that? Is it a conversion?

It is the Ghoul King from the Zombie Dragon/Terrorgheist kit. He can be modeled on foot--although it's recently that they started showing him like that.

When the kit first came out, I improvised a Ghoul King using a tombstone from the old Skeleton Warrior kit.

 Kanluwen wrote:

It is the Ghoul King from the Zombie Dragon/Terrorgheist kit. He can be modeled on foot--although it's recently that they started showing him like that.

Thank you! Too bad he is not available separately.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Yeah, waste the flayer before it closes in.

The king is being counted as a basic ghoul, right?

I'm going to have to take notes as I've got my son's Court seeing action against my Overlords soon.

Well the flayer can move 12" then charge (presumably) verses the general 16" range of Bottle's guns, which means he'll probably need to use a juicy target as bait (probably one of the cavalry) who will get shredded but lure the flayer into gun range (and out of cover).

Of course we also need to hope that Bottle's opponent isn't reading this and devising a counter-strategy as we speak, else our favorite pop star is doomed.

Thanks for the hints guys! The King is most definitely a King and not a regular ghoul! :-) I have a few tricks up my sleeve such as the Long Rifle and the Crossbow range, but I agree that Flayer is the highest priority!

It'll be interesting to see if the skirmish rules expand the basic rules in a meaningful way. Lately I've come to notice the shallowness of Age of Sigmar a little too much to keep enjoying the game. A skirmish variant with more depth would be most welcome. Going to have to remember to tune in for the stream.

 Crimson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

It is the Ghoul King from the Zombie Dragon/Terrorgheist kit. He can be modeled on foot--although it's recently that they started showing him like that.

Thank you! Too bad he is not available separately.

It is if you buy em from bits sites .

The skirmish book from back in the day was $5 or came with a white dwarf. I got mine with my white dwarf. I still use the scenarios to this day and its on my book shelf.

 Crimson wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

It is the Ghoul King from the Zombie Dragon/Terrorgheist kit. He can be modeled on foot--although it's recently that they started showing him like that.

Thank you! Too bad he is not available separately.

He isn't; but it's a good box for bits I think.

If rumours are true, then those skirmish bundles are freaking sweet.

Stormcast: 3 Liberators, 2 Retributors, 3 Prosecutors, 1 Knight-Something, probably costing around $92, saving you $27.

Ironjawz (oh man, I want this): 5 Ardboyz, 5 Brutes, 1 Wierdnob Shaman, $100.66 individually, saving you $35.66

Fleash-eaters: 3 Horrors, 20 Ghouls, individually $87, saving you $20.

Khorne: 5 Bloodreavers, 5 Wrathmongers, 1 Aspiring Deathbringer, individually $102, saves you $37 (and man, those Wrathmongers sprues are certainly expensive).

Having bought the AoS starter box, the silver tower, and Hammerhal, I hope to be pleasantly surprised to find I can field several factions worth of warbands!!

Or, just buy a Start Collecting for less/same, and get more....

 TalonZahn wrote:
Or, just buy a Start Collecting for less/same, and get more....

Except the start collecting boxes are actually $20 more base than these and these are actually excellent add-ons to the start collecting. Well, except the stormcast one which is pretty meh. I do get tired of their handling of it. Though the retributors and liberators are essentially free and you still save $10 or so just for the knight and prosecutors.

Chopxsticks wrote:Having bought the AoS starter box, the silver tower, and Hammerhal, I hope to be pleasantly surprised to find I can field several factions worth of warbands!!

Given the warbands that will be used on the live stream and how past Warhammer Skirmish things have gone, I think that's very, very likely.

CMLR wrote:
Ironjawz (oh man, I want this): 5 Ardboyz, 5 Brutes, 1 Wierdnob Shaman, $100.66 individually, saving you $35.66

Khorne: 5 Bloodreavers, 5 Wrathmongers, 1 Aspiring Deathbringer, individually $102, saves you $37 (and man, those Wrathmongers sprues are certainly expensive).

Those are pretty good. Wrathmongers remain one of the silliest minis GW have ever produced, but their alternates are quite nice.

I don't know how you'd get 5 Bloodreavers though, as the sprue has 10 minis.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

CMLR wrote:
Ironjawz (oh man, I want this): 5 Ardboyz, 5 Brutes, 1 Wierdnob Shaman, $100.66 individually, saving you $35.66

Khorne: 5 Bloodreavers, 5 Wrathmongers, 1 Aspiring Deathbringer, individually $102, saves you $37 (and man, those Wrathmongers sprues are certainly expensive).

Those are pretty good. Wrathmongers remain one of the silliest minis GW have ever produced, but their alternates are quite nice.

I don't know how you'd get 5 Bloodreavers though, as the sprue has 10 minis.

There is a snap fit box of 5 bloodreavers.

Oh, ok then that makes sense.

CMLR wrote:
Khorne: 5 Bloodreavers, 5 Wrathmongers, 1 Aspiring Deathbringer, individually $102, saves you $37 (and man, those Wrathmongers sprues are certainly expensive).

Do you have a source for this? As this is different than the other source's line-up list which has 5 Blood Warriors in the Khorne set


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those are pretty good. Wrathmongers remain one of the silliest minis GW have ever produced, but their alternates are quite nice

I thought they were dumb as gak until I got a set for extra monsters for WHQ Hammerhal, and discovered they are super cool. The annoying "very clean" GW studio paint job makes them look... not good.
Oddly, there's many more options on the sprues than just the Wrath Mongers and Skull Reapers, and because of they way the models are designed, you can easily mix and match - they remind me of the Blightkings. I almost wish it was a box of "make your own Chosen Khorne dudes" instead of two separate unit types.

The army lists are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/warhammer-live-lists-for-may-17th/

Basic infantry seems to cost 2 renown. So it's pretty clear we won't have options to buy very specific gear for each guy (like we can in most skirmishes, like Mordheim or the recent SWA).
It's kind of a bummer, as I think customizing guys is a good part of the fun when playing with a handful of models.

 judgedoug wrote:

CMLR wrote:
Khorne: 5 Bloodreavers, 5 Wrathmongers, 1 Aspiring Deathbringer, individually $102, saves you $37 (and man, those Wrathmongers sprues are certainly expensive).

Do you have a source for this? As this is different than the other source's line-up list which has 5 Blood Warriors in the Khorne set

And the saving is much less than I had been quoted (56%, if I recall right).

Should mention though, I never said 5 Blood Warriors, just that there were Blood Warriors in the set

MongooseMatt wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

CMLR wrote:
Khorne: 5 Bloodreavers, 5 Wrathmongers, 1 Aspiring Deathbringer, individually $102, saves you $37 (and man, those Wrathmongers sprues are certainly expensive).

Do you have a source for this? As this is different than the other source's line-up list which has 5 Blood Warriors in the Khorne set

And the saving is much less than I had been quoted (56%, if I recall right).

Should mention though, I never said 5 Blood Warriors, just that there were Blood Warriors in the set

There was a different source that I had quoted a page ago which had
Khorne: 5 Blood Warriors 5 Wrathmongers 1 Aspiring Deathbringer
Stormcast: 3 Liberators 2 Retributors 3 Prosecutors 1 Knight-Questor
Ghouls: 20 Ghouls 3 Horrors
Ironjawz: 5 Ardboyz 5 Brutes 1 Wierdnob Shaman

fresus wrote:
The army lists are up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/warhammer-live-lists-for-may-17th/

Basic infantry seems to cost 2 renown. So it's pretty clear we won't have options to buy very specific gear for each guy (like we can in most skirmishes, like Mordheim or the recent SWA).
It's kind of a bummer, as I think customizing guys is a good part of the fun when playing with a handful of models.

Looks like the general has some custom options. Maybe there is more, they just arnt show casing it so its not super convoluted. One can only hope I suppose.