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Haha, the Seeds of Hope summer campaign would actually be the first time there was something to protect with innocent lives.

At the beginning of AoS there was the first book that talked about the despoiled realms on the Stormcasts side as wonders and cities were undone from the Age of Myth and their heroes came from slaughtered villages while Khorne's side reveled in the destruction as they slaughtered innocent people.

The first novels did some, if minimum, background building with this as well by showing that there were still people and tribes out there for the Stormcasts to help while the Khornites were still tearing civilization down if they hadn't already turned it into a hellscape.

The stuff was there at the beginning but it should've been built upon (just a quick Age of Myth primer or the like) rather than mentioned in passing.

   
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In this month's White Dwarf there's an Ultimate Guide to Death and the page after is an advertisement for Death models. It's worth noting that the Zombies box isn't in the advertisement even though the Corpse Cart is (using the old box art too). All of the other Death Battleline units are accounted for on the ad as well.

Probably doesn't mean anything, but there is hope for new Zombie models.

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That would be amazing. IMO the holy trinity of ugly troop boxes that need replacements stat are Cadians, Chaos Space Marines and... yep, Zombies.
   
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New zombies would be a treat. They're long overdue for an upgrade.
   
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Sure, we knew there were some people. We just knew next to nothing about them, so it was hard to care. Even now the info about the Free Cities is pretty minimal, but at least there is something to spark your imagination.

   
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 Mymearan wrote:
That would be amazing. IMO the holy trinity of ugly troop boxes that need replacements stat are Cadians, Chaos Space Marines and... yep, Zombies.

Not Catachans/Berserkers/Battle Sisters?
   
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You dare speak ill of battle sisters?!

Seize him!!

 Crimson wrote:
Sure, we knew there were some people. We just knew next to nothing about them, so it was hard to care. Even now the info about the Free Cities is pretty minimal, but at least there is something to spark your imagination.


That's a point. Even the earliest story that focused on people, "Daemon of the Deep", did so with a random town even though they had the Lantic empire and Steppe Khanate remnants already in the lore and whose fall they could've played off of.

Hopefully they'll play on those in the future though. A multiple realm spanning empire that slowed down chaos' advance culminating in being besieged by Archaon and his combined forces or an oriental empire with giant & sky titan allies that caused Khorne himself(or well just his hand) to intervene with their last stronghold would make excellent Time of Legends novels.
   
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So the blank eyed guy in blue and gold armour on the characters page. Artistic licence or another Order hero?
   
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GoatboyBeta wrote:
So the blank eyed guy in blue and gold armour on the characters page. Artistic licence or another Order hero?

I think it's supposed to be the Seer.
   
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Baron Klatz wrote:
You dare speak ill of battle sisters?!

They are literally THE worst 40K range right now, even Catachans have better looking models in the form of later special characters, not to mention all the new IG tanks they can take. Hell, you'd need to dig pretty deep to find similarly ugly Sigmar range as most of them had at least partial refresh. Sisters had literally a single plastic model for what, 20 years...?
   
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Rather have metal sisters than spindly Eldar Finecast. Their neglect has saved them in that sense.

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Fantastic! I love knowing the people who make these.

Thanks so much for sharing!

@Irbis, haha, I was just joking.

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Thats awesome.

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 Irbis wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
You dare speak ill of battle sisters?!

They are literally THE worst 40K range right now, even Catachans have better looking models in the form of later special characters,

Profoundly disagree. Everything looks good compared to catachans.

Hell, you'd need to dig pretty deep to find similarly ugly Sigmar range as most of them had at least partial refresh. Sisters had literally a single plastic model for what, 20 years...?

Three, actually, which is more than several of the 'refreshes' you're referring to. AoS has done Sigmarines, Bloodblooders, Dwarfs, more Sigmarines, Orcs, Tzeentch, even more Sigmarines and Nurgle. Skaven, Lizards, Tree Spirits and Ogres were reboxed and sold without a single new model, and the rest of the range apparently doesn't even rate new boxes.

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Voss wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
Baron Klatz wrote:
You dare speak ill of battle sisters?!

They are literally THE worst 40K range right now, even Catachans have better looking models in the form of later special characters,

Profoundly disagree. Everything looks good compared to catachans.

Hell, you'd need to dig pretty deep to find similarly ugly Sigmar range as most of them had at least partial refresh. Sisters had literally a single plastic model for what, 20 years...?

Three, actually, which is more than several of the 'refreshes' you're referring to. AoS has done Sigmarines, Bloodblooders, Dwarfs, more Sigmarines, Orcs, Tzeentch, even more Sigmarines and Nurgle. Skaven, Lizards, Tree Spirits and Ogres were reboxed and sold without a single new model, and the rest of the range apparently doesn't even rate new boxes.


False. Sylvaneth had several new kits upon the release of their Battletome.

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This line of discussion isn't exactly news or rumors...

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Well, saw on the AoS Facebook page last night that they were addressing peoples concerns about what this actually is. But apparently all that's been revealed so far is just the very beginning. Apparently it will be books, new model lines and interestingly campaigns, as in plural. So, intrigued how this will go.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
GW's biggest mistake in the FB/AoS transition is still throwing away decades of setting material without any proper replacement.
AoS at release was nothing but an empty, soulless husk filled with golden dudes and red dudes endlessly fighting over nothing.

It really wasn't.

We knew there was a Realm associated with each of the Winds of Magic. They brought that up in the main flipping rulebook.
We knew that the "golden dudes and red dudes" were fighting over the Realm of Fire and that it was the first time that Sigmar actually launched an offensive!
We knew that this was the 'opening gambit' to start freeing those still living their lives in the various Realms that had been overrun by Chaos.

It was only "an empty, soulless husk filled with golden dudes and red dudes" if one didn't even make a cursory attempt to read any of the material. And I'm not even talking about novels here, most of this is in the main rulebook and the booklet that came with the AoS starter set. A lot of it was also in WD at the time.

I read it all of it very thoroughly when it came out, before it made me lose interest. Don't pretend it was anything more than it was. We knew they were fighting over the Realm of Fire, but we had absolutely no idea what the Realm of Fire even was. A random meaningless name pretty much equals nothing. We knew they were fighting to 'free the realms', but we had no idea what these realms were, who were in it and why they should be worth fighting over. This has now been fixed to various degrees, praise Sigmar, but the fluff in the beginning was pretty much non-existent.


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 Crimson wrote:
The realms just seemed empty and featureless at the first. There were really nothing to care about. Firestorm stuff was the first thing that made me care about the setting at all, finally there seemed to be some normal people who had actual lives and cultures. We need a lot more stuff like that and in greater detail.

Aye, that was true for me as well. Firestorm really ignited my interest for AoS.

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Firestorm really ignited my interest for AoS.

I see what you did there.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well, saw on the AoS Facebook page last night that they were addressing peoples concerns about what this actually is. But apparently all that's been revealed so far is just the very beginning. Apparently it will be books, new model lines and interestingly campaigns, as in plural. So, intrigued how this will go.


Indeed, really looking forward to what they'll reveal this year.

Also, I'm wondering how Nurgle will factor in? In the artwork we see Death is already busy dealing with the 3 heroes and their respective forces. Will Nurgle be the biggest threat to Nagash while everyone else is trying to take objectives in the ensuing chaos?
   
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It would make sense. Nurgle is all about the extremes of life and Nagash is directly opposite. It would be natural for them to butt heads the most.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It would make sense. Nurgle is all about the extremes of life and Nagash is directly opposite. It would be natural for them to butt heads the most.


Also Nurgle has had major reverses in the Realm of Life so is a bit weakened.

He also may be aware that Nagash is messing about with the same ideas as Sigmar re the Stormcast and as they have been a headache - not least in his own Garden recently he will not be keen to have two versions of them running about.

Lastly Nurgle wants everyone to enjoy his gifts - the undead just seem unable to embrace them in almost any way.

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That video is good and kind of solidifies the idea that they had when they released AoS in 2015. I wish it had come out then.

My biggest complaint with AoS to date has been that it's NOT WHFB, and that they destroyed that setting to make something completely different. I understand why people disliked WHFB, even if some of that was internet hyperbole, but I still feel like they could've transitioned better. Essentially, because of the way GW went about it, they alienated a big chunk of people that really could've helped AoS at the start.

All that aside, I'm finally starting to get over my own hang ups with the setting, I'm finally coming to terms with AoS as a different game entirely rather than what I consider a failed WHFB reboot, and I'll admit that this video actually helps with all that. Prior to having this explained in this way (I'm firmly in the 'I'm not gonna buy 10 Battletomes just to have the lore I need to understand what the heck is going on' camp), my view of the mortal realms was just this infinite series of planets (I kind of got the feeling of almost multiple galaxies in each realm after reading the first couple of books) where the background team and fluff-writers could literally do whatever they wanted to do with no consequence. This changes quite a bit if each realm, of which there are a finite number, is just essentially one large planet connected by the realm gates. Now things can happen that have real consequence and battles may actually begin to matter.

I'll be watching this intently. I'm interested to see where they take this and if it will add enough to the setting to get me to start a proper AoS army.

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 godswildcard wrote:
All that aside, I'm finally starting to get over my own hang ups with the setting, I'm finally coming to terms with AoS as a different game entirely rather than what I consider a failed WHFB reboot, and I'll admit that this video actually helps with all that. Prior to having this explained in this way (I'm firmly in the 'I'm not gonna buy 10 Battletomes just to have the lore I need to understand what the heck is going on' camp), my view of the mortal realms was just this infinite series of planets (I kind of got the feeling of almost multiple galaxies in each realm after reading the first couple of books) where the background team and fluff-writers could literally do whatever they wanted to do with no consequence. This changes quite a bit if each realm, of which there are a finite number, is just essentially one large planet connected by the realm gates. Now things can happen that have real consequence and battles may actually begin to matter.



Looking at the scale of the realm-spheres shown in the video - the individual realms are much bigger than that, it looks like several hundred (maybe more) continent sized landmasses in each - so more like the Ringworld or Dyson Sphere scale. So whilst its not infinite each is truly vast and this fits with the fluff info thus far. Few of the larger landmasses that we have had described in the books are linked directly except by realmgates and the distances that are talked about are gigantic.

I was pleased to see a basic timeline but it would be really awesome to have some sort of calendar or way of measuring dates - there are occasional references in the books but these are very very rare.!

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I think my new favourite new thing (new for me) is that the realms are at their most stable, and thus populated, in the middle. This means that even though the actual realms are enormous, the settled area is much smaller, which means that conquering a limited part of the realm doesn’t feel as meaningless.
   
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So, would it be too much to hope for new Warriors of Chaos sprues?

I am thinking it is.

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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
So, would it be too much to hope for new Warriors of Chaos sprues?

I am thinking it is.

How they will improve perfection?

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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 Galas wrote:
 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
So, would it be too much to hope for new Warriors of Chaos sprues?

I am thinking it is.

How they will improve perfection?


I see you also still have Chaos Warriors from the mid-90's.

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Multiple new lines of models? Wow this is sure surprising. Now if the new death stuff is cool enough I might be tempted to switch from destruction grand alliance army to death as my opposing force fighting my KO.

This is so exciting. Also I'm starting an AoS community here and hope I can get a few more.
   
 
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