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 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
The death guard looks like it is MKII. I freakin love the model!

It's Mk.III, look at the legs.

You're right about the legs. The helmet looked a little more MK2 but it could be the angle :-)

The original concept for Death Guard was Mk3 armour with a Mk2 "mono-eye" helm to emulate Nurgle's daemons

So I'm going with Mk3 armour with Mk2 helm

But, long story short, he's original death guard - not corrupted Primaris

 nintura wrote:

I think it's hilarious that people are going crazy over new sizes...

I wish I could find such simple things as funny as you do, I would never stop laughing.

Death guard might be reason enough to buy the box.

Vorian wrote:
But, long story short, he's original death guard - not corrupted Primaris

Only time will tell, but most likely.

 Rippy wrote:

Vorian wrote:
But, long story short, he's original death guard - not corrupted Primaris

Only time will tell, but most likely.

Let's say to 4 sigma certainty, rather than 5 then.

 Alpharius wrote:
Weird that the Chaos Gods wouldn't have done this on their own already.

Is the 5th Chaos God...Lord Malchapterhouse?!?

It took the Chaos gods a Tea-time in the warp, that's 10,000 years for us, to create them! Pah they even time-travelled back to beat Guilliman in court before he could claim 'Like everyone else I do this breeding and crusade-ry thing mostly for collecting more Space Marines not warfare, mind you'

 nintura wrote:

 Accolade wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
So my take away is:

*They are Primaris Sized (not Primaris themselves)
*Possible geneseed messed with in the warp to make super chaos marines, to counter Primaris and have a fluff excuse to make larger marines.

I think what will be the most interesting to see is if Chaos Marines are all uniformly upgraded to Warp-hulk status in the rules, or if there will be a demarcation between them and the existing lines (that won't be expanded upon, but still supported). Fluffwise, it might not make much sense for there to be these guys and smaller marines who have all been sitting around in the Warp for 10k years. Unless the biggerfication is some recent phenomenon.

I think it's hilarious that people are going crazy over new sizes... The Chaos Marines in Dark Vengeance were already bigger than regular marine, I myself have sized them and sent pictures to people. And the new 1k Sons are bigger as well, and not because of their head gear.

Who's going crazy? I'm legitimately curious how they plan to handle the switch-over, which is neither positive nor negative. Unless this thread is supposed to just be gobs of praise without any other discussion?

People need to calm down about new models and scales. It's like this has never happened in the history of the game. Well lads, let me tell you a story about a grizzled gamer who's had entire armies of eldar and marines completely replaced by new figs. This same grizzled gamer also had a significantly sized squat army that just went *poof* into the warp. It's not a new thing, and it's not the end of the world. The chicken little thing amuses me though, so there's that.

Personally, I think anyone who's a fan of marines should be pleased to have cool new figs. Replacing current armies is an aesthetic choice - no one's forcing anyone's hand or holding guns to heads. Buy 'em if you think they're cool, or not. Whatevs, it's all good.

Charax wrote:
The original concept for Death Guard was Mk3 armour with a Mk2 "mono-eye" helm to emulate Nurgle's daemons

So I'm going with Mk3 armour with Mk2 helm

Thanks for sharing! This is really interesting.

Welp, I am committed now, I will stay up for another hour to get the new article straight up on this thread OP

 Rippy wrote:

 nintura wrote:

I think it's hilarious that people are going crazy over new sizes...

I wish I could find such simple things as funny as you do, I would never stop laughing.

I love my humor. Nothing gets to me, Im rarely if ever stressed.

I love the new plague marines!

About the size: surely the chaos gods have always used the warp to enhance their favourite followers. If anything this has been underplayed in the model range. If they can turn ordinary humans into hulking super humans in AoS, then I don't see why they couldn't turn already super humans into even bigger super duper humans in 40k. Now we have a contrast; imperial marines are now a new and improved model whilst the chaos marines are the old model unnaturally souped up.

One of the things I hope GW does with the updated Marine lines is create a greater dichotomy between Chaos and Loyalists forces. Seeing Chaos mainly clad in the armor of their time period (MkII-IV) versus the more modern Mk X Loyalists would help separate the themes of the armies to a nice extent.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
I love the new plague marines!

About the size: surely the chaos gods have always used the warp to enhance their favourite followers. If anything this has been underplayed in the model range. If they can turn ordinary humans into hulking super humans in AoS, then I don't see why they couldn't turn already super humans into even bigger super duper humans in 40k. Now we have a contrast; imperial marines are now a new and improved model whilst the chaos marines are the old model unnaturally souped up.

Yes, I do like this concept, though effectively we already had that before

well with any luck it'll be "New shiny marines Vs marines that actually feel like veterans of ten thousand years of conflict"

~Spasms~......uuuhn...death guard...so awesome...must resist urge to buy 4 starters sets....

 rayphoton wrote:
~Spasms~......uuuhn...death guard...so awesome...must resist urge to buy 4 starters sets....

Bruh, I'm starting with 4.....

*whispers* join uss......

 Rippy wrote:
Welp, I am committed now, I will stay up for another hour to get the new article straight up on this thread OP

You're literally my favourite Australian*





*Except Kylie, obvs

 Rippy wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Thanks, Rippy, for getting in contact with him and posting it here.

What does his last reply mean? For us non-native speakers could you guys explain his hint, please. No problem if that turns out to be a misinterpretation later, but it would help to understand what he is saying. Thank you

I have asked for a clarification, but basically what he said was:
* This Death Guard is a Plague Marine, and will be in starter set
* This Miniature was also a Primaris Marine
* Chaos gods hasn't changed this marine at all, due to fluff/lore changes

I think you are misinterpreting them. This is my takeaway:
Q: So are these plague marines or something different? A: plague marines.
Q: Also are they all that super size? A: same scale as custodes.
Q: Any fluff reason for upscale? A (referring to primaris): super duper marines and Guilliman orderns them.
Q: Oh so these are Primaris that turned to Death Guard? A: ..no, chaos gods changed them.
Q: Are these in starter set? A: starter set.

Messiah wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Thanks, Rippy, for getting in contact with him and posting it here.

What does his last reply mean? For us non-native speakers could you guys explain his hint, please. No problem if that turns out to be a misinterpretation later, but it would help to understand what he is saying. Thank you

I have asked for a clarification, but basically what he said was:
* This Death Guard is a Plague Marine, and will be in starter set
* This Miniature was also a Primaris Marine
* Chaos gods hasn't changed this marine at all, due to fluff/lore changes

I think you are misinterpreting them. This is my takeaway:
Q: So are these plague marines or something different? A: plague marines.
Q: Also are they all that super size? A: same scale as custodes.
Q: Any fluff reason for upscale? A (referring to primaris): super duper marines and Guilliman orderns them.
Q: Oh so these are Primaris that turned to Death Guard? A: ..no chaos gods changed them.
Q: Are these in starter set? A: starter set.

Hmm good point, should be a comma between the no and chaos.

 Rippy wrote:

Hmm good point, should be a comma between the no and chaos.

Agreed, updating my above post.

Has anyone figured out exactly how many faction keywords work?

For example:
Tactical marine
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Blood Angel
Primaris Marine
Imperial, Primaris, Adeptus Astartes, Blood Angel
Rhino
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Blood Angel
Grey Knight
Imperial, Inquisition, Adeptus Astartes, Grey Knight


Does this mean you cannot have:
Primaris Marine
Imperial, Primaris, Adeptus Astartes, Grey Knight

because Primaris and Inquisition is exclusive?
Grey knights could have:
Rhino
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Grey Knight


But when building your army you cannot do
Tactical marine
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Blood Angel
Tactical marine
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Dark Angel

Messiah wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

Hmm good point, should be a comma between the no and chaos.

Agreed, updating my above post.

Good work interpreting there mate! I think you are spot on

Youn wrote:


But when building your army you cannot do
Tactical marine
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Blood Angel
Tactical marine
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Dark Angel

You might be able to, but it might not be Battleforged.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

Youn wrote:


But when building your army you cannot do
Tactical marine
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Blood Angel
Tactical marine
Imperial, Adeptus Astartes, Dark Angel

You might be able to, but it might not be Battleforged.

All armies have to be Battleforged for competitive play (points system)

I think you are required to have a battleforge army now.

Edit: Sorry, I don't consider Open or Narrative play in terms of army building.

Yeah but not necessarily for open or narrative, no?

Open play only has the rule of if your opponent and you want to put it on the table do so. So, that isn't really army building.

Narrative play, you are telling a story that could be anything. Someone could make up a story why Sly Marbo and a Carnifax are taking on an entire T'au army.