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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:50:07
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Faithful Squig Companion
B'ham
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Those Stinky Beakies are surely nice, but I can't wait for the Ork article this Thursday!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:50:19
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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TheDraconicLord wrote:Another fine article from Frankie there… wait… what’s that? Can you hear that, off in the distance? Sounds like a Waaagh! is headed this way… come back on Thursday to learn about Orks in the new edition.
Oh my, now this I'm curious to see!
Unless they come back on Thursday and say we're getting Feral Ork rules I probably won,t be etting too hyped off that article.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:50:22
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Hallowed Canoness
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So they made a fugly marine version of Seraphims, just to make sure Sisters don't have anything unique, to go with their all marines starter set. And now marines are officially 2/5th of 40k (unofficially more than that).
Great!
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:51:34
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Oh...yay, more incredibly lazy "re-rolls 1's to wound in close combat!" nonsense rules. That's not an encouraging sign.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:52:26
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Daedalus81 wrote:I'm confused - is it that plasma gun that is the blight launcher instead?
I expect they can still take plasmaguns. Its assualt which means 2 shots always at 24" but weaker than a (current) plamagun in strength
i expect a plasma will be 24" rapid fire s7 ap-3 d3 dam
so it's a weaker more mobile choice
also
I am groot? XD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:52:36
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Daedalus81 wrote:I'm confused - is it that plasma gun that is the blight launcher instead?
The blight launcher will be an option in their full kit when that's released.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:55:26
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Upcoming Th... Th...Thunderhawk in plastic teaser?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:58:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Happy We Found Our Primarch
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Shadox wrote:So do we have any idea of the Plague Marines being multipose? The Primaris seem like it but on the Deathwatch I'm not sure at all.
Models in the starter are monopose:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 15:59:17
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Elbows wrote:Oh...yay, more incredibly lazy "re-rolls 1's to wound in close combat!" nonsense rules. That's not an encouraging sign.
How are rerolls lazy design? There's only so much you can do with a d6.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:00:46
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:03:40
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Infiltrating Prowler
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I really WANT to like the new DG models, but they've simply gone waay OTT AoS style on the details. I can't focus on any of the models, there's too much going on and they even look too clean with that paint job, why did they make a paint with nurgles rot, rust and corrosion and then use none of that on the DG models?
On the other hand, those cultists absolutely steals the cake. They're hilarious, dark and sinister looking, all at the same time!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:05:21
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Morphing Obliterator
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ChrisB wrote: Shadox wrote:So do we have any idea of the Plague Marines being multipose? The Primaris seem like it but on the Deathwatch I'm not sure at all.
Models in the starter are monopose:

Ah, thank you. So for me that means the Deathguard will go into the 'Others'-box instead of to the Word Bearers. Though they will come in handy for Black Crusade
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:08:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can someone explain what those command dice are about? Are they for marking activated units or some such?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:09:53
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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dosiere wrote:Can someone explain what those command dice are about? Are they for marking activated units or some such?
You get command points for detachements that let you do stuff, i assume they are to keep track of how many you used and on what.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:11:16
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Regular Dakkanaut
Denmark
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Latro_ wrote:dosiere wrote:Can someone explain what those command dice are about? Are they for marking activated units or some such?
You get command points for detachements that let you do stuff, i assume they are to keep track of how many you used and on what.
I asked the same question earlier and no one seems to know. The most of them looks like wound counters or something similar, and the ones at the top could maybe be for objectives?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:12:39
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Anyone have a comprehensive list of the base sizes for the Miniatures in the dark imperium box?
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:24:04
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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dosiere wrote:Can someone explain what those command dice are about? Are they for marking activated units or some such?
Certain detachments will give you command points. Also, some characters will give you command points. I assume these dice are for you to keep track of your command points, which are finite. You spend the command points on stratagems.
Here is a list of known stratagems.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:24:41
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Did anyone see the sneaky bit of new scenery in the Cities of Death pic from this morning's announcement? Doesn't look like custom stuff...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:26:52
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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angelofvengeance wrote:Did anyone see the sneaky bit of new scenery in the Cities of Death pic from this morning's announcement? Doesn't look like custom stuff...
It's a conversion using the Fortress of Redemption.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:29:27
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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Round up time!
Edition Release Announcement
Q: Interesting? Ground breaking, more like it. I cannot wait to get my hands on the Primaris. Since you're sitting on piles of multipart guys already, perhaps someday you'd consider my idea and make an advanced Marine armor kit, with all parts of the suit separate for an infinite amount of poses. Not that I'm complaining, seeing how good your new releases are! Also, since you're resurrecting cool old concepts, perhaps you'd be willing to do a new edition of the Vehicle - and now Monster - Design Rules? It's been fun building crazy war machines back in the 3rd Edition times.
Oh, and Nick, you know what I'm going to ask about, do you?
A: *sigh* I do,yeah.... but go on.. I know you like asking!
Q: Will the Primaris Marines function as elite choices in a regular Space Marine army? I'm trying to figure out how this would sit together with my new Betrayal at Calth box.
A: You can absolutely use these together with standard Space Marines; they work well together in one army.
Q1: Is the music in GW's videos custom recorded for GW? It's absolutely fantastic, completely fits the mood!!!
Q2: Much of the music I've heard in their videos is normally from licensed computer games, like the Dawn of War series, or Warhammer Online (the recent Kharadron release used some of the Dwarf music from Warhammer Online, for example).
Not sure where the track in the above video is from, though.
A: What [REDACTED] said! The music in this particular video is from the Warhammer Quest IOS game.
Q: What book has the Militarum Tempestus army list? I don't see it on the cover of the indexes shown.
A: They will be covered in the Imperium 2 book.
Q: Have you folks just made a post that is a repost of the last one you made?
A: We have indeed, as many people around the world may have been asleep when we posted it the first time!
Q: I hear they are snapfit? is that true? Hopefully stuff in the future wont be?
A: Sorry for the confusion on this one! These models are single-pose miniatures. They still need gluing together. As they are designed in a certain way, the sculptors Aly and Maxime have really gone to town on these and they look just superb.
Q: [REDACTED] .... prove your love for me woman !!!! Xxx
A: Well, that's the gauntlet thrown down, then?!
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A: Love this!
Q: Do we know if Primaris/ DG are multipart or snap-fit single pose?
A: The Dark Imperium models are single-pose, but boy, are they brimming with character!
Q: Is the book the big rule book?
A: 280 pages of hardbacked glory!
Forge World's Post about 8th Edition Rules
Q: Forge World, when these books are released can we please get a table of contents/list of what is contained in each book?
A: sounds like a great idea. We will get on it.
Q: Will you release army rules for eldar corsairs etc in the forthcoming books in June as well?
A: We will indeed- they are on the way.
Q: I know you guys mentioned that you will announce what's going on with Horus Heresy at warhammer fest, but I wish you could just spit it out already as Gw have been open with what there doing why not.
I've seen a lot of people selling the Heresy books thinking wear changing either way it's damaging the Heresy community with this delay
A: That's fair feedback, Harry. We will have all the latest about Horus Heresy at Warhammer Fest this weekend.
Q: So, index astartes is just marines? We will have to wait for Knights?
A: The book we have shown the Space Marines book and the article says
"Rules for all the rest of the Warhammer 40,000 Forge World range, including the myriad xenos races of the galaxy and the massed forces of the Astra Militarum and their accompanying Imperial Agents, will all be appearing in additional Index books that set to be released before the end of June."
Sounds like the Knights are on the way!
Q: Can you confirm whether or not Titans will be included with the index Astartes?
Having recently purchased the warlord to complete the trinity, I'm eager to be able to use him in more than just my local GW goodbye 7th apoc game.
A: Hey Drew- the first book covers forces of the Space Marines only. There will be more Imperial forces on the way soon.
Q: How much are these going to cost?
A: No word on that yet - watch this space for all the news.
Q: FORGE WORLD GOT US FAM
A: We sure have.
Faction Focus Death Guard
Q: I know we have seen more models in the previews than the snap fit versions of DG in the start. This includes a picture of a DG termi that is not the same one found here. Will we be getting boxes in the near future that are to the full standard of model making vs the snap fit? Dark Vengeance never for CSM chosen or cultist non snap fit models. What are the plans to avoid the same lack of releases we had tied to Dark Vengeance?
A: We couldn't possibly say! Besides, if we say either way, it stops all the speculation fun!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:29:31
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Latro_ wrote:Daedalus81 wrote:I'm confused - is it that plasma gun that is the blight launcher instead?
I expect they can still take plasmaguns. Its assualt which means 2 shots always at 24" but weaker than a (current) plamagun in strength
i expect a plasma will be 24" rapid fire s7 ap-3 d3 dam
so it's a weaker more mobile choice
also
I am groot? XD
So every growth going the exact same way and cumbersome at that. But the clincher is the fact that his oversized shoulder growth has 3 perfectly perpendicular spike that are all perfectly parallel to eachother driven in a manner that they face his own face not the enemy, and to top that off he couldn't do it himself, so one of his dimwitted, grinning idiot friends had to arrange them with his nurgle gifted protractor.... LMAO!
I like the mutties, except for a few minor complaints, one being that carbon copy idiot grin on EVRY ONE. you know the guy was just lazy with his CAD file on that one, then the over the top horns on again, EVERY ONE. That said the hazmat guy is my favorite
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:29:43
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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A "campaing" for launch: Fate of Konor
Sorry for the size of the pic. It is a pack for stores to go with 8th launch:
50 pages for army list A4
5 metal coins of 40k
30 measure rules of Ultramarines
20 posters in A3 size
20 pages of exclusive missions
50 battle booklet (Maybe a resume of the rules?)
A poster of A2 size of "Coming soon” of the new campaing: The Destiny of Konor.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:30:47
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Latro_ wrote:hmmm DG don't actually sound much different from now when you read it and think about it.
Interesting we now have two instances of teasers where potentially big units of infantry compleley ignore morale. Give me orks some hope, i'm expecting if a boyz unit is over x models they ignore morale
They sound weaker - everyone now gets relentless, they have to cast a psychic power rather than get shrouded at a certain distance, they don't re-roll FNP's of 1.
OTOH there's no instant death, and they are still T5 (although S3 vs T5 is now wound on 5+, not 6+).
Of course, without points, all this is moot. Now formations have gone, the power levels of those armies who really only were a bit OP due to formation bonuses drop. We've been assured that the focus will be back to Imperium vs. Chaos, and I can't see them making the faction out the box weak, so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:50:23
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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zerosignal wrote: Latro_ wrote:hmmm DG don't actually sound much different from now when you read it and think about it.
Interesting we now have two instances of teasers where potentially big units of infantry compleley ignore morale. Give me orks some hope, i'm expecting if a boyz unit is over x models they ignore morale
They sound weaker - everyone now gets relentless, they have to cast a psychic power rather than get shrouded at a certain distance, they don't re-roll FNP's of 1.
OTOH there's no instant death, and they are still T5 (although S3 vs T5 is now wound on 5+, not 6+).
Of course, without points, all this is moot. Now formations have gone, the power levels of those armies who really only were a bit OP due to formation bonuses drop. We've been assured that the focus will be back to Imperium vs. Chaos, and I can't see them making the faction out the box weak, so...
Everyone has quasi-relentless. I mean you're relentless for shooting but at a -1 to hit with heavy weapons unless you're bespoked otherwise (Rubrics), and we don't know if Rapid Fire can shoot and charge the same turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:54:52
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Is the book in the boxed set the same one that you can buy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:55:42
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Yes.
And of course, there’s the new Warhammer 40,000 book itself. This 280-page, hardback tome is included in the Dark Imperium box and is also available separately.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 16:59:34
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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Deadshot wrote: Bottle wrote: Deadshot wrote:Bottle wrote:I really hope the unit rules are free. It caters for people like me who prefer to build small and varied forces rather than just making tournament armies. I have loads of random models. I would have to buy 4 out of the 5 indexes to have rules for them all. I am not interested in playing Matched play to begin with just open play, and for that I need free unit rules or it loses lots of appeal (and I'll likely stick with AoS instead).
Who says you need to buy everything at once? Why not just spend a portion of this months wages for the rules and your favourite rules, then next month spend a measely amount for your next two factions that you want, then in month 3 get the last 2 books (if you have 4/5 why not have the set?). All the rules, in 3 months, with minimal impact on other spendings. Its cheaper than you having to buy 4+ codexes and new rules every edition and being Out of Date for a whole edition.
Firstly, I don't want to spend £75 on rules when I could spend that on more miniatures. Secondly it's for all the new models. If they don't have free unit rules the newer armies will have rules only available behind paywalls too.
For Age of Sigmar I collect all 4 grand alliances, but a mixture in each. When a new release comes out I might pick up a box or two. I like playing smaller games and skirmish games. And I can do it all just fine with AoS. I was hoping to play 40k the same way but if the rules are all behind paywalls it doesn't cater for Open Players like me because I can't just buy a box of whatever and put it on the table like I can with AoS.
Sorry to be rude about it but that's honestly your own problem. You need new rules every edition, that's never not been the case. Just think of this as a downpayment. Where in previous editions you might spend 400+ on models that become obselete in 6 months, you now have the rules already (so no further Pay To Pay cost until EVERYBODY has to do so, or maybe free PDF update or something) and can plan to buy only what will be useful and you like. Furthermore, no one wants to spend £75 on rules instead of models but that's been part of the game for years now, its just how it works. Its not extra cost, its expected cost. And new units and armies have always had to do this as well. Literally nothing has changed except they are going to give you the core rules (how the different phases and unit types work) as a PDF for free.
For the second paragraph, I can't follow you. You want the rules for free is what you're saying. That's fair. I want free stuff too, but you gotta pay for stuff bro. The models are one product and the game is another. You aren't getting 2 at once, it just doesn't work that way.
It works that way for more or less every other commercially successful table top game. Rules normally come with the products. GW is an anomaly in that they sell game pieces and the rules to use them separately.
And I agree with his second paragraph. It's the same for me. 7th Edition really encouraged multi-faction armies. GW pushed the allies mechanic and made it super easy to build an army out of a little of this and a little of that. "Forge the Narrative" and take what you want. I built a cross-faction army with a core of Tau Empire, some Necrons I converted to all have Tau antennas sticking out of their heads and some IG/Skitarii to represent Tau Auxillaries. I also have a small force of Iron Warriors. In total, it's about 3000 points worth of painted models. If I want to play with them, I'll need to buy more or less all of the books on day 1. I don't have enough of any one army to play a 'full sized game', so buying the rules for the faction I like best isn't an option.
Yes, we all know we have to spend money to buy new rules from time to time, but it sucks to find out you have to buy ALL of the rules on day 1 to field the kind of army GW has been pushing for several years (multi faction). With AoS, you can literally buy any box off the wall and plunk it down on the table. With 40k 8th, you'll need to be more picky and make sure your particular flavor of Xenos is in the Xenos book you bought. Tau/Orks? One book. Tau/Necrons? Two books. Tau/Necrons/an Inquisitor? Three books.
It would be AWESOME if they could announce pricing so that people would have more than a couple of weeks to prep. I have a good job, so the cost isn't important, but I have friends who won't easily absorb a potentially $100-200 hit just to get the rules to play their existing armies. How much are the Index books going to cost? How much is the hardback rule book by itself? Rumors are all well and good, but I want actual GW USD retail pricing. Rumored GBP pricing isn't useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 17:00:11
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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zerosignal wrote: Latro_ wrote:hmmm DG don't actually sound much different from now when you read it and think about it.
Interesting we now have two instances of teasers where potentially big units of infantry compleley ignore morale. Give me orks some hope, i'm expecting if a boyz unit is over x models they ignore morale
They sound weaker - everyone now gets relentless, they have to cast a psychic power rather than get shrouded at a certain distance, they don't re-roll FNP's of 1.
OTOH there's no instant death, and they are still T5 (although S3 vs T5 is now wound on 5+, not 6+).
Of course, without points, all this is moot. Now formations have gone, the power levels of those armies who really only were a bit OP due to formation bonuses drop. We've been assured that the focus will be back to Imperium vs. Chaos, and I can't see them making the faction out the box weak, so...
Keep in mind toughness does mean something different than it meant in 7th, as well. Even lascannons will only wound them on 3+ with T5!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 17:01:40
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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FunJohn wrote: Latro_ wrote:dosiere wrote:Can someone explain what those command dice are about? Are they for marking activated units or some such?
You get command points for detachements that let you do stuff, i assume they are to keep track of how many you used and on what.
I asked the same question earlier and no one seems to know. The most of them looks like wound counters or something similar, and the ones at the top could maybe be for objectives?
Some of the icons on the dice match the 'Warhammer 40,000 Counter Set' (namely the run icon), so I guess its just for keeping track of stuff like this unit ran, this unit arrived from reserves (the droppod).
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1500, 100% WIP, 100% kick-ass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/05/23 17:02:19
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 23 May 2017: Confirmed: release/pre-order date+starter set in OP
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Yeah thats annoying - I want the mini rulebook so its actually useful !
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction |
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