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They should have put the Shield Captain as an HQ choice character, and taken the captain/sergeant equivalent outnof the custodes squads.

Right now, custodes are just a troops choice, in an edition where they have elite, fast attack, and heavy support FoCs.

£250 is too rich for my blood for the limited edition but I guess that's the point - anything limited tends to sell out in an hour on GW, but that one is still up. Charge what the market will bear, etc. I bought the limited ed rulebook for 6th edition - it's a nice keepsake but it was succeeded by 7th way too quickly for me to ever play that game again

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Motograter wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Motograter wrote:

 JoeRugby wrote:
Pre-order placed.

Dark sphere were the cheapest I could find £75.05 including delivery.

Lol where did you look? Thats the most expensive outside of going direct.

£71 from outpost
£71.25 from wargames uk as just some examples

Do those prices include delivery?

No but theyd still be cheaper. Outpost post cost £3.50 making it £74.50. I knoe its just under but its still cheaper
Wargames uk free post so still same

NB If you live near enough and add another £5 (or more) GW item you can collect Dark Imperium in person for the web price from Dark Sphere, which matches Wargames UK.

Its ok if youre near them i guess. Even if dark sphere were cheapest though personally id still go elsewhere

I love, that I can use my plague toads as plaque toads and not have to prox them as beasts anymore.
Edit: spelling

/mourn the Sonic Dreadnaught. :( I wonder if the Contemptor will have the options it used to have.

Thebiggesthat wrote:
See the usual upset crew are in, it makes me enjoy the release even more!

GW has 350 quid of my money today, why do I have to wait 2 weeks! I caved and went for the limited edition, knew I'd regret it if I didn't.

Offer is still there for any people cross with GW, I will take models off people's hands for a reasonable price so they can go play another game. I'll even throw in some Antares stuff

And your enjoyment ups my enjoyment, seems we have happiness perpetum mobile! It's like Roubotte himself was right here with us!

But yeah, I have tons of stuff to sell for a good price, PM if interested. Not really getting rid of 40k - I can play modified old editions with the models - just reducing the collection to a sensible size.

Found on vk (Russian fb I believe) - check the ''classified'' - looks like Emperor is ... dead?

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Found on vk (Russian fb I believe) - check the ''classified'' - looks like Emperor is ... dead?

this looks like it's from a horus Heresy book

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Found on vk (Russian fb I believe) - check the ''classified'' - looks like Emperor is ... dead?

Maybe they want to say: xxxx... wants the master of mankind dead?

 axisofentropy wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Found on vk (Russian fb I believe) - check the ''classified'' - looks like Emperor is ... dead?

this looks like it's from a horus Heresy book

Agreed, it's probably about the Siege of Terra when they thought the Emperor was dead.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Found on vk (Russian fb I believe) - check the ''classified'' - looks like Emperor is ... dead?

Maybe they want to say: xxxx... wants the master of mankind dead?

Maybe. I have no idea. That is why I put ''?'' on the end of sentence

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Plumbumbarum wrote:
but someow they get a pass here?

Never mind all the other gak, the alleged "justification" for the post is even worse. Between the dozens of posters with hundreds of posts in this thread alone all making various complaints about the new fluff, new edition, new anything, pretty much, you somehow believe GW are getting "a pass" for whatever it is that was so important that you forgot to explain was prompting your complaint?
Wow.

The hate level is nowhere near what even the smaller fluff bits from Ward inspired, and I think picking up warlord trait randomly (a small thing in the grand scheme of things) was bashed more than removing vehicle facing (relatively a big thing) is being bashed now. Why the poor facing btw? My 7 year old son is able to keep, track and choose facing of the tank when we play our simplified WWII wargame, the change is dumb, lazy and tanks have wounds now, because AV was hard I guess. Anyway, maybe most of the people who cared then have indeed already left.

This entire edition follows the AoS footstep, a game which cinematic and strategic/ tactical ambitions are best summed up by a single sentence - "you can shoot bows out of close combat". Artwork is bad. Fluff is bad. But yes, "all the other gak", for someone criticising a quality of my post, you better read your response again.

What prompted my complaint was that tank. Jesus.

skarsol wrote:
/mourn the Sonic Dreadnaught. :( I wonder if the Contemptor will have the options it used to have.

Angry Slaanesh player here...

 Rippy wrote:

 axisofentropy wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Found on vk (Russian fb I believe) - check the ''classified'' - looks like Emperor is ... dead?

this looks like it's from a horus Heresy book

Agreed, it's probably about the Siege of Terra when they thought the Emperor was dead.

According so a fellow on Facebook that I'm in a chat group with, it's from the new Rulebook.
I shared the image and he replied saying he saw it today when he was looking at the new rulebook at his flgs.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 axisofentropy wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Found on vk (Russian fb I believe) - check the ''classified'' - looks like Emperor is ... dead?

this looks like it's from a horus Heresy book

Agreed, it's probably about the Siege of Terra when they thought the Emperor was dead.

According so a fellow on Facebook that I'm in a chat group with, it's from the new Rulebook.
I shared the image and he replied saying he saw it today when he was looking at the new rulebook at his flgs.

That's very interesting. I wonder what the context is.

Here is the link to vk (scroll a bit down to see it). If someone speak Russian please help if there is more info
https://vk.com/warhammer_art_of_war

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Here is the link to vk (scroll a bit down to see it). If someone speak Russian please help if there is more info
https://vk.com/warhammer_art_of_war

This is what it says according to my chrome auto translator:

Aborting one spoiler.
-Hot Topic 8 edition - Great rift that divided the galaxy in half. On dark side Imperial Astronomican not visible light. Many orders Space Marines lost or even destroyed.
-Napadenie to Terra, the Emperor's palace is attacked khornitov army but Guilliman takes defense into their own hands and, together with the Sisters of Silence and Custodes reflect the attack.
-In the darkest hour, when all the connection was broken during the fighting mnoih places were seen the emergence of the Legion of the Damned (Baal, Armageddon, and hundreds of other planets).
-Neodolimy Crusade: Guilliman and everything, everything, everything.
-Varp storm turned half of Armageddon in the demonic world. Khorne and Tzeentch forces fighting with such ferocity that humans and orcs for a short period of time have to fight together. Salamander prevent the ritual call Angron.
-On the Blood Angels Baal nearly killed by the Leviathan, but their rescue Guilliman and warp rift. And Ka'Banda. We look forward to future conflict khornitov and spacecraft.
-Chuma that puts an end to all other diseases: Mortarion precipitates Ultramar. Two-primarch brother converge in battle.
-Next to the Eye of Terror has been found unstable passage through the break, leading to a sector ruled by jousting traitors at home.
The mysterious part of the book: "Terra Strikes Back." In an attempt to take the initiative in their own hands going on Terra strike force, supported by an army of Adeptus Kustodes.Tekst smeared, but at the end of sentences to guess words: "Lord of mankind, and that has something to do with death."

 Motograter wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Motograter wrote:

 JoeRugby wrote:
Pre-order placed.

Dark sphere were the cheapest I could find £75.05 including delivery.

Lol where did you look? Thats the most expensive outside of going direct.

£71 from outpost
£71.25 from wargames uk as just some examples

Do those prices include delivery?

No but theyd still be cheaper. Outpost post cost £3.50 making it £74.50. I knoe its just under but its still cheaper
Wargames uk free post so still same

Aww it must be nice to be so easily amused

Forgot about outpost not heard of wargames U.K Before so thanks for the new store to add to the list

What have they been like for you before

 Bonegrinder wrote:

 JoeRugby wrote:
Pre-order placed.

Dark sphere were the cheapest I could find £75.05 including delivery.

I'll see your £75.05 from Dark Sphere with £75.00 from Asgard Wargames, with free P&P!

I hope you choke on that 5p

Thanks for another store to add to the list

 Rippy wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Here is the link to vk (scroll a bit down to see it). If someone speak Russian please help if there is more info
https://vk.com/warhammer_art_of_war

This is what it says according to my chrome auto translator:

Aborting one spoiler.
-Hot Topic 8 edition - Great rift that divided the galaxy in half. On dark side Imperial Astronomican not visible light. Many orders Space Marines lost or even destroyed.
-Napadenie to Terra, the Emperor's palace is attacked khornitov army but Guilliman takes defense into their own hands and, together with the Sisters of Silence and Custodes reflect the attack.
-In the darkest hour, when all the connection was broken during the fighting mnoih places were seen the emergence of the Legion of the Damned (Baal, Armageddon, and hundreds of other planets).
-Neodolimy Crusade: Guilliman and everything, everything, everything.
-Varp storm turned half of Armageddon in the demonic world. Khorne and Tzeentch forces fighting with such ferocity that humans and orcs for a short period of time have to fight together. Salamander prevent the ritual call Angron.
-On the Blood Angels Baal nearly killed by the Leviathan, but their rescue Guilliman and warp rift. And Ka'Banda. We look forward to future conflict khornitov and spacecraft.
-Chuma that puts an end to all other diseases: Mortarion precipitates Ultramar. Two-primarch brother converge in battle.
-Next to the Eye of Terror has been found unstable passage through the break, leading to a sector ruled by jousting traitors at home.
The mysterious part of the book: "Terra Strikes Back." In an attempt to take the initiative in their own hands going on Terra strike force, supported by an army of Adeptus Kustodes.Tekst smeared, but at the end of sentences to guess words: "Lord of mankind, and that has something to do with death."

No need to translate if you just link to the original source instead of some russian twitter whatever site?

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2117

...

Anyone know the contents of the "swag bag" one gets for making a pre-order of at least $X in a Warhammer Store today?

 Atia wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Here is the link to vk (scroll a bit down to see it). If someone speak Russian please help if there is more info
https://vk.com/warhammer_art_of_war

This is what it says according to my chrome auto translator:

Aborting one spoiler.
-Hot Topic 8 edition - Great rift that divided the galaxy in half. On dark side Imperial Astronomican not visible light. Many orders Space Marines lost or even destroyed.
-Napadenie to Terra, the Emperor's palace is attacked khornitov army but Guilliman takes defense into their own hands and, together with the Sisters of Silence and Custodes reflect the attack.
-In the darkest hour, when all the connection was broken during the fighting mnoih places were seen the emergence of the Legion of the Damned (Baal, Armageddon, and hundreds of other planets).
-Neodolimy Crusade: Guilliman and everything, everything, everything.
-Varp storm turned half of Armageddon in the demonic world. Khorne and Tzeentch forces fighting with such ferocity that humans and orcs for a short period of time have to fight together. Salamander prevent the ritual call Angron.
-On the Blood Angels Baal nearly killed by the Leviathan, but their rescue Guilliman and warp rift. And Ka'Banda. We look forward to future conflict khornitov and spacecraft.
-Chuma that puts an end to all other diseases: Mortarion precipitates Ultramar. Two-primarch brother converge in battle.
-Next to the Eye of Terror has been found unstable passage through the break, leading to a sector ruled by jousting traitors at home.
The mysterious part of the book: "Terra Strikes Back." In an attempt to take the initiative in their own hands going on Terra strike force, supported by an army of Adeptus Kustodes.Tekst smeared, but at the end of sentences to guess words: "Lord of mankind, and that has something to do with death."

No need to translate if you just link to the original source instead of some russian twitter whatever site?

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2117

...

I had no idea it is from you Lady Atia. I guess I must check WoS more often. I will now go to get my penance at the closest Ecclesiarchy chapel

 Rippy wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Here is the link to vk (scroll a bit down to see it). If someone speak Russian please help if there is more info
https://vk.com/warhammer_art_of_war

This is what it says according to my chrome auto translator:

Aborting one spoiler.
-Hot Topic 8 edition - Great rift that divided the galaxy in half. On dark side Imperial Astronomican not visible light. Many orders Space Marines lost or even destroyed.
-Napadenie to Terra, the Emperor's palace is attacked khornitov army but Guilliman takes defense into their own hands and, together with the Sisters of Silence and Custodes reflect the attack.
-In the darkest hour, when all the connection was broken during the fighting mnoih places were seen the emergence of the Legion of the Damned (Baal, Armageddon, and hundreds of other planets).
-Neodolimy Crusade: Guilliman and everything, everything, everything.
-Varp storm turned half of Armageddon in the demonic world. Khorne and Tzeentch forces fighting with such ferocity that humans and orcs for a short period of time have to fight together. Salamander prevent the ritual call Angron.
-On the Blood Angels Baal nearly killed by the Leviathan, but their rescue Guilliman and warp rift. And Ka'Banda. We look forward to future conflict khornitov and spacecraft.
-Chuma that puts an end to all other diseases: Mortarion precipitates Ultramar. Two-primarch brother converge in battle.
-Next to the Eye of Terror has been found unstable passage through the break, leading to a sector ruled by jousting traitors at home.
The mysterious part of the book: "Terra Strikes Back." In an attempt to take the initiative in their own hands going on Terra strike force, supported by an army of Adeptus Kustodes.Tekst smeared, but at the end of sentences to guess words: "Lord of mankind, and that has something to do with death."

Oh my goodness. Call the crusades. Call all of them!

The emperor bit probably just says is the master of mankind dead? As a cliff hanger thing probably. Doesn't look like there is a word in front of dea....

No worries buddy ^.^

Plumbumbarum wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:

Plumbumbarum wrote:
So, GW recently managed to:

- ruin 40k fluff (ultra ultra moronis marines)
- ruin 40k artwork (majority being the soulless, characterless cgi crap)
- ruin the look of minis (more and more busy/ cartoonish/ awful sculpts)
- ruin the rules (removing depth from the already shallow rules)
- ruin whfb (to say the least heh)

but someow they get a pass here? Disagree with the above if you want but you have to agree that a few years back, GW would be torn to bits for the changes like 8th edition brings. People were bashing them mercilessly because of Matt Ward, well Ward was nothing compared to girlyman riding moronis marines to victory, the latter is Marvel superhero level of crap. Are we happy there's hope now in 40k, was it too bleak and depressing?

Or is it because they "listen" now? Because they seem to be listening to the wrong people and imo this GW is magnitudes worse than the old, silent one.

I think most of the people who would have ripped into GW in the past have already left the building. That's why their sales are down year on year. 8th edition isn't meant for them, it's meant to attract new people in to replace them. It also need to attract new players in to replace all the ones it's going to drive away. I know looking at the new models I have no interest in super space marines or out of scale nurgle marines.

I'll save final judgement on the rules until I've played a demo or too, but nothing I've read have given me anything to get excited about.

Over the last month or so all these leaks have been coming out I know my interest for the game has all but disappeared after 23 years. However the recent FW announcement has made me think maybe focusing on 30K (and ignoring the horrible things they have done to the 40K fluff) will fill the void.

£250 for the limited edition, who the hell is buying that. That's basically a warhound titans body for emperors sake.

Yes, when I saw moronis marines, I thougt here's space marine for a Halo/ Starcraft crowd. Seeing the dread/ repulsor, I'm not that sure anymore heh.

I don't think the moronis marines models are bad, it's just the fluff that only a heavy retcon can fix. Also, imo they will look stupid on the table because of their size, current infantry models are already too big imo, bordering on toyish at times.

I'll check the ruleset as well, being the simpleton it is and assuming it's better balanced, it might be easier to houserule.

GW sales have been up for 2 quarters now, probably because the vast majority of people are liking what they've been doing I would expect to see some pretty solid numbers for the foreseeable future as they're doing a much better job of attracting new players and getting older players interested again. As for people not 'ripping into' GW, H.B.M.C., tneva, seandrake, streetsamurai and oni should be deeply offended.

Primaris marines are objectively superior models to normal space marines(seriously, even Calth marines look like lopsided dog crap in comparison.) and are very conservative in their adornments so I don't get what the ptoblem is there. The new art is w/e, old 40k art looked like john blanche drew his dreams after watching nothing but pornos and 'The Thing' for a week straight. Not better or worse, just different. As for the fluff? Meh, it's weird that people get upset about stuff like this. It's totally banal, 'oh they had a weapon and then they made a better weapon' I mean it's a bit weird for 40k but with all the other monumentus crap that's been happening not totally beyond the realm of possibility.

The rules for 8th are MASSIVELY superior and they removed unnecessary complexity not depth, it's as deep as it's ever been and it's fun again for the first time since the Eldar Codex dropped. I played a game yesterday and it feels almost exactly the same except we got a 3 player 1500 point each game done in less than 2 hours and at no point did anyone, despite having WILDLY different armies (triple knight, hodgepodge eldar, Sisters) did anyone feel like they were totally out of the running.

What happened to WHFB was awful but AoS has evolved into a pretty great game all things considered. Sure having both would be better but sometimes gak happens.

If you don't like it that's fine, but it has more to do with you not getting what you wanted out of it than any objective measure of quality.

Haha thanks Atia, I will make sure to credit you when I add it to OP

Sorry if this has been covered, but I was flipping through the demo copy of my FLGS's SM index and I noticed that tac squad sergeants can only take weapons from the sergeants weapons list but combi-weapons are not on that list. This makes me think that unless I missed something I'm going to have to remodel ALL of my tactical squad sergeants....

Am I wrong? Please tell me I'm wrong!

 godswildcard wrote:
Sorry if this has been covered, but I was flipping through the demo copy of my FLGS's SM index and I noticed that tac squad sergeants can only take weapons from the sergeants weapons list but combi-weapons are not on that list. This makes me think that unless I missed something I'm going to have to remodel ALL of my tactical squad sergeants....

Am I wrong? Please tell me I'm wrong!

Nope, Sergeants still can use combi weapons just fine

Am I correct that Munitorum Armored Containers, which had 8E style stats back in 7E, don't appear to be included in Index Imperium 2 ?

 Atia wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:
Sorry if this has been covered, but I was flipping through the demo copy of my FLGS's SM index and I noticed that tac squad sergeants can only take weapons from the sergeants weapons list but combi-weapons are not on that list. This makes me think that unless I missed something I'm going to have to remodel ALL of my tactical squad sergeants....

Am I wrong? Please tell me I'm wrong!

Nope, Sergeants still can use combi weapons just fine

Atia to the rescue and I'm off to reading comprehension class!

Okay Lady Aria's rumor now in OP.

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