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Requizen wrote:

Bluthusten wrote:What do you guys think about the Stormlord?

Maybe supportet by a Salamander Command Vehicle and Harker / Yarick?

Fill it with HWTs. Go nuts.

This one. Set down Stormlord, Dump lascannons into it, have them shoot out, win, repeat.

Only thing you have to worry about at that point is screening the stormlord with units.

 daedalus wrote:

Requizen wrote:

Bluthusten wrote:What do you guys think about the Stormlord?

Maybe supportet by a Salamander Command Vehicle and Harker / Yarick?

Fill it with HWTs. Go nuts.

This one. Set down Stormlord, Dump lascannons into it, have them shoot out, win, repeat.

Only thing you have to worry about at that point is screening the stormlord with units.

Screen it with cheap tanks. T7/T8 Overload is a seriously good list.

 axisofentropy wrote:
Shadowsword is the best GW AM Titanic unit.

Fixed it for you

Well, considering that FW is part of GW, I believe the Warlord Battle Titan would be classified as the best titanic unit in that it can beat every other titanic unit.

 Aenarian wrote:
Well, considering that FW is part of GW, I believe the Warlord Battle Titan would be classified as the best titanic unit in that it can beat every other titanic unit.

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 luke1705 wrote:

 axisofentropy wrote:
Shadowsword is the best GW AM Titanic unit.

Fixed it for you

this is a good post.

 axisofentropy wrote:

 Aenarian wrote:
Well, considering that FW is part of GW, I believe the Warlord Battle Titan would be classified as the best titanic unit in that it can beat every other titanic unit.

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 luke1705 wrote:

 axisofentropy wrote:
Shadowsword is the best GW AM Titanic unit.

Fixed it for you

this is a good post.

Well yes, I missed the "AM" part. But more on the topic, I would choose the Shadowsword, Stormlord or Stormhammer if it came to Baneblade variants, and probably a Macharius Vulcan if we pick the other ones.

I say fill the Stormlord with something that wants to get up close and use it as an assault vehicle instead of a bunker. Get the tank into CC as soon as possible and unload 30 Combat Engineers with a priest, Death Korps Regimental Banner and Yarrick. You can imagine the carnage of 60 Carcass Shells wounding all non vehicles on 2s, re-rollings 1s to hit, followed by 99 attacks on the charge from the Engineers alone.

Haven't fielded my Stormlord in 8th yet, but I know my 9 Bullgryns are eager to try it out.

That actually sounds really awesome!

 Otto von Bludd wrote:
I say fill the Stormlord with something that wants to get up close and use it as an assault vehicle instead of a bunker. Get the tank into CC as soon as possible and unload 30 Combat Engineers with a priest, Death Korps Regimental Banner and Yarrick. You can imagine the carnage of 60 Carcass Shells wounding all non vehicles on 2s, re-rollings 1s to hit, followed by 99 attacks on the charge from the Engineers alone.

Im gonna do this with 10 Veterans, Straken, Priest and Yarick, just for Style, cause i Love my Veterans + Straken...

Veterans with 3 flamer and HeavyFlamer.

The rest Will be LasCanon-Teams or something like that


Which setup should i go for the Tank? 2 or 4 sponsons?

/edit are Lascanons worth to put into the stormlord? Cause "only" 10 can Fire and hitting on 5's when stormi moves...

Is there anybody who are considering to use rough rider? I think it can be good option for fast attack slot when you use brigade detachment.

P.S What is the best base for rough rider conversion

Bluthusten wrote:

 Otto von Bludd wrote:
I say fill the Stormlord with something that wants to get up close and use it as an assault vehicle instead of a bunker. Get the tank into CC as soon as possible and unload 30 Combat Engineers with a priest, Death Korps Regimental Banner and Yarrick. You can imagine the carnage of 60 Carcass Shells wounding all non vehicles on 2s, re-rollings 1s to hit, followed by 99 attacks on the charge from the Engineers alone.

Im gonna do this with 10 Veterans, Straken, Priest and Yarick, just for Style, cause i Love my Veterans + Straken...

Veterans with 3 flamer and HeavyFlamer.

The rest Will be LasCanon-Teams or something like that


Which setup should i go for the Tank? 2 or 4 sponsons?

/edit are Lascanons worth to put into the stormlord? Cause "only" 10 can Fire and hitting on 5's when stormi moves...

I let my # of sponsons be dictated by the rest of my list and points available. Or sometimes how many models I don't feel like pushing around, haha.

jim300 wrote:Is there anybody who are considering to use rough rider? I think it can be good option for fast attack slot when you use brigade detachment.

P.S What is the best base for rough rider conversion

I have used my rough riders to harass my opponent's support units and lighter backfield units. But perhaps their greatest use thus far has been to bring them on turn 3 in a well hidden place, hoping my opponent will forget about them, then sprint to cap OBJs with their 11-16" movement.

I think we just discussed the base issue a few posts back.

Is the destroyer tank hunter still a thing in 8th ed ?

 sumi808 wrote:
Is the destroyer tank hunter still a thing in 8th ed ?

It exists, yes. A Leman Russ body with an additional wound and armed with a 60" D3 Lascannon with damage D6 or 2D6 pick highest against vehicles. 170 points.

Do you think its worth to take a Trojan support vehicle together with the Stormlord? It costs ~100 points, but it lets the Stormlord reroll hits and you can put 6 guys into it

Bluthusten wrote:
Do you think its worth to take a Trojan support vehicle together with the Stormlord? It costs ~100 points, but it lets the Stormlord reroll hits and you can put 6 guys into it

Yes, it is definitely worth it on any superheavy that itself is worth getting.

What do you guy think about the praetor armoured assault launcher ?
Looks just worth its price.

Klone12 wrote:
What do you guy think about the praetor armoured assault launcher ?
Looks just worth its price.

I don't like that it requires LOS. It's my ideal replacement for basilisks. Other than that, it's pretty solid. I've got one that's been sitting in foam for a while. I'm thinking next time I play, I might take it out and set it next to the Stormlord just to watch color drain from my opponent's face. That doesn't leave me with enough points to really do much otherwise, but it'll be fun.

Bluthusten wrote:
/edit are Lascanons worth to put into the stormlord? Cause "only" 10 can Fire and hitting on 5's when stormi moves...

20 can fire. HWTs take up 2 transport slots but nothing mentions them taking up 2 firing slots.

If you want a large assault transport, take a CRASSUS. That thing is so evil if you give it heavy flamers. It can shoot after advancing and fire in combat. 35 transport slots means you can field a full unit of Bullgryn with character support, or a mix of other squads. Fast and durable too, at only 268pts, it is pretty much a Guard Land Raider. I think that whilst the Stormlord makes a very good bunker, the CRASSUS makes the superior assault transport. I mean, it is called the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT for a reason...

 Trickstick wrote:

Bluthusten wrote:
/edit are Lascanons worth to put into the stormlord? Cause "only" 10 can Fire and hitting on 5's when stormi moves...

20 can fire. HWTs take up 2 transport slots but nothing mentions them taking up 2 firing slots.

If you want a large assault transport, take a CRASSUS. That thing is so evil if you give it heavy flamers. It can shoot after advancing and fire in combat. 35 transport slots means you can field a full unit of Bullgryn with character support, or a mix of other squads. Fast and durable too, at only 268pts, it is pretty much a Guard Land Raider. I think that whilst the Stormlord makes a very good bunker, the CRASSUS makes the superior assault transport. I mean, it is called the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT for a reason...

I bought it's brother, the PRAETOR. While its no CRASSUS, it's the same size and shape, so if I hate people I sometimes decide to counts-as a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT.

With the removal of access points in 8th, having a large transport with only a rear access ramp is not the problem that it used to be. As for the Praetor, people would probably welcome using it as a counts as. It would be like me using my Vulture as a Valkyrie, I doubt people would object!

 MinscS2 wrote:
A Leman Russ BT with a Battle Cannon and Heavy Bolter is 162 pts.

A Leman Russ Conqueror with Conqueror Battle Cannon, Co-axial Storm Bolter and Heavy Bolter is 143.

Yes, it's an obvious choice and a classic case of FW underpricing. WIth that said, the regular LR with a Battle Cannon isn't really worth 162 pts to begin with.

I just started up again after a break and just started reading the relevant indices. When I saw points values for units that didnt include wargear, I assumed that meant ADDITONAL wargear, not things that the datasheet says it comes with, but thats not the case? So even though it says that the LRBT comes with a Battle Cannon and HB, I still have to add those points on to it, on top of the 132 base? That seems kinda wonky....youd think theyd give you the points values for how its equipped on the datasheet.

 Billagio wrote:

 MinscS2 wrote:
A Leman Russ BT with a Battle Cannon and Heavy Bolter is 162 pts.

A Leman Russ Conqueror with Conqueror Battle Cannon, Co-axial Storm Bolter and Heavy Bolter is 143.

Yes, it's an obvious choice and a classic case of FW underpricing. WIth that said, the regular LR with a Battle Cannon isn't really worth 162 pts to begin with.

I just started up again after a break and just started reading the relevant indices. When I saw points values for units that didnt include wargear, I assumed that meant ADDITONAL wargear, not things that the datasheet says it comes with, but thats not the case? So even though it says that the LRBT comes with a Battle Cannon and HB, I still have to add those points on to it, on top of the 132 base? That seems kinda wonky....youd think theyd give you the points values for how its equipped on the datasheet.

That's correct, You must add the cost of all gear. It changes up the cost of things like dramatically. It's annoying, but I use battlescribe so it's fine.


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I've been pondering, what do we think of Manticores vs basilisks?

Obviously, the manticore has the better gun, but with only shooting 4 times, and being about 25 points more expensive I'm not sure what I think...

Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but it would seem Nork Deddog can act as bodyguard for Pask ... meaning he is incredibly useful in blocking high damage weapons. Just a thought.

 GreaterGood? wrote:

I've been pondering, what do we think of Manticores vs basilisks?

Obviously, the manticore has the better gun, but with only shooting 4 times, and being about 25 points more expensive I'm not sure what I think...

Well, it's worth remembering that the Manticore can get twice as many shots as the Basilisk.

So, whilst it might only fire for 4 turns, it could still end up doing comparable damage to a Basilisk that fires every turn for a full 6-7 turns.

I have a couple of old Griffons that I like. What tank in the current arsenal would a Griffon best represent?

I use my three Griffons as Wyverns. They wreck enemy infantry. The Wyvern is also artillery and uses a Chimera chassis like the Griffon.

Forgeworld Index errata out: https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/40K_8th_ed_Update_Imperial_Armour_Index_Forces_of_the_Astra_Militarum_ver_1.0.pdf

Searchlights no longer stack:

Page 27 – Sabre Weapons Battery, Defence Searchlight
Change this to read:
‘If this model has a defence searchlight, at the start of
your Shooting phase it may select a single enemy unit
within 48" and line of sight. One friendly <Regiment>
Infantry or <Regiment> Sabre Weapons Battery
unit adds 1 to any hit rolls that target the chosen unit
until the end of the Shooting phase. A single unit
cannot benefit from multiple Defence Searchlights.’

 Aesthete wrote:
Forgeworld Index errata out: https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/40K_8th_ed_Update_Imperial_Armour_Index_Forces_of_the_Astra_Militarum_ver_1.0.pdf

Searchlights no longer stack:

Page 27 – Sabre Weapons Battery, Defence Searchlight
Change this to read:
‘If this model has a defence searchlight, at the start of
your Shooting phase it may select a single enemy unit
within 48" and line of sight. One friendly <Regiment>
Infantry or <Regiment> Sabre Weapons Battery
unit adds 1 to any hit rolls that target the chosen unit
until the end of the Shooting phase. A single unit
cannot benefit from multiple Defence Searchlights.’

I wouldn't have expected it to stack anyway. I think the real difference is that it now only works for infantry and sabres.

Still decent for conscript blobs.
So does anyone know anywhere I can pick this OOP model up? I swear I've been looking for the last month plus and no one is selling them.