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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/13 09:05:51
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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I'm a space wolves player too but don't need anymore primaris. The gsc are cool but I don't need to start a new army. I'll just be waiting for the ork dex and kitbashing a Meka dread
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/13 21:39:30
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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...it's good to be green! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 00:56:57
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Those buggies look a lot like short trukks. Would be cool to have a fleet of each side by side! Get ready MasterCard...i may have need of you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 05:38:14
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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I am not sure if i like the design but that might change, they look a bit like kit bashed toy cars with orks on. The gun on the first buggy doesnt look like any known ork weapon, maybe a bit like a lobba perhaps?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 08:52:02
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The buggy on the front does look pretty good, but, the question is, do people really expect them to be “competitively viable”? Outside looking in, I’m not expecting them to be, nor as I expecting bikes and Trukks to be either unless they all get “vanguard” style movements etc.
I don’t expect such thoughts to impact initial sales of this box though (if it is released globally).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 08:57:39
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Someone at GW has brought out the Mad Max films for inspiration.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 10:09:07
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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It's pretty safe to assume that Mad Max has been an inspiration for ork vehicles since the very beginning.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 10:10:23
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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posted by @Jipin on twitter...sprues! glorious blurry sprues!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/08/14 10:13:28
...it's good to be green! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 10:39:37
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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it...its bootiful
mork (or maybe gork) has answered our prayers
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"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 10:42:18
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
Finland
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It's 2018, mobile phone cameras are pretty decent across the board. How the feth do people fail so miserably that they have to take and post potato pictures of important subjects?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 10:44:43
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Weazel wrote:It's 2018, mobile phone cameras are pretty decent across the board. How the feth do people fail so miserably that they have to take and post potato pictures of important subjects?
they took a pic without flash becasue they had to rush before they were pulled into a dark van labeled " GW, ALD (anti leaks department)"
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"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 10:58:44
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Dakka Veteran
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Probably. But what we do see is mighty interesting. Correct me if I'am wrong, but those are two brand new orky vehicel sprues. The one on the right looks a bit like a wartrakk but isn't. It is the chassis of a 4-wheeled buggy. The one on the left looks new as well with new exhausts, bodywork and weapons. I'm excited!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 11:19:09
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Look at the box art - you can match the bits from the sprue to the art of the three buggies shown there.
Also something nu-GW has been doing lately - every single Death Guard plague marine shown in any recent art exists as a plastic model.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 16:29:17
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Its Official, check the warhammer tv page for their latest Video, an excellent video of the unveiling of the new Buggy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 16:30:50
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Dakka Veteran
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Buggy still
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 16:39:07
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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That cannon makes me hope that we'll no longer be stuck with rokkits on buggies.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 16:53:01
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's a lovely model that I really hope gets some good rules to back it up. I'd love to buy a few and have them cruising around the battlefield getting into trouble, running guardsmen over then blowing up in a blaze of glory. I can see a stratagem that lets them drive through units to deal mortal d3 mortal wounds or charge a super sonic flier and crash into it dealing mortal wounds to both models. Like you use the stratagem to charge the flier dealing d3 mortal wounds. You kill yourself. You blow up. You deal another d3 mortal wounds. It's great fun till you roll a one both times, but meh that's proppa orky taktics dat iz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 16:59:13
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Jidmah wrote:That cannon makes me hope that we'll no longer be stuck with rokkits on buggies.
Think its a recast of a weapon we have already or a new one? Will we receive a slew of new weapons to choose from? i might take stock of my magnet supply once these come out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 18:46:12
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Has anyone else noticed what appears to be a grot gunner? BS4+ on my buggy? Yes please! Automatically Appended Next Post: Ah no it isn’t Automatically Appended Next Post: Dojo wrote: Jidmah wrote:That cannon makes me hope that we'll no longer be stuck with rokkits on buggies.
Think its a recast of a weapon we have already or a new one? Will we receive a slew of new weapons to choose from? i might take stock of my magnet supply once these come out.
I’m thinking it must be a new weapon.
It’s obviously not a rokkit launcha and it’s too beefy to be a big shoota (plus single big shootas would suck). Also doesn’t look quite big enough to be a kannon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 19:16:27
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Is it a shock attack gun?
U guys noticed they announced orktober at the end of the vid? I only saw it on my second watch Automatically Appended Next Post: Best trailer ever btw! I love the sad music and how they smash that old buggy
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Brutal, but kunning! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/14 19:21:06
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Regular Dakkanaut
Newfoundland
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Gitdakka wrote:Is it a shock attack gun?
U guys noticed they announced orktober at the end of the vid? I only saw it on my second watch
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Best trailer ever btw! I love the sad music and how they smash that old buggy
Yup i noticed. My body is ready.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 00:48:16
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Dakka Veteran
Australia
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As much as I hate to say it, but I think it being released on "Orktober" is good for the ork-o-sphere.
It means that there is plenty of time to show off up coming ork stuff after the Specialist Games (iirc only rogue trader remains), whereas Space Wolves did not have the time and has so far recieved no new releases.
Basically the month gap hints at things worth showing off. Perhaps the start of 8.5e or new models, because there's a lack of upcoming specialist games during that time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 02:16:55
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Maybe it's an Orky shotgun.
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GENERATION 8: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.
If yer an Ork, why dont ya WAAAGH!!
M.A.V.- if you liked ChromeHounds, drop by the site and give it a go. Or check out my M.A.V. Oneshots videos on YouTube! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 03:34:16
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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...it's good to be green! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 06:12:26
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Dojo wrote: Jidmah wrote:That cannon makes me hope that we'll no longer be stuck with rokkits on buggies. Think its a recast of a weapon we have already or a new one? Will we receive a slew of new weapons to choose from? i might take stock of my magnet supply once these come out. One of the old warbuggies had a multi-melta model, but I doubt this is thing is one. The gun is too beefy to be a big shoota or supa-shoota, and doesn't match the visuals for any big guns, mek guns or walker weapons ( KMK, skorcha, grotzooka). It's almost definitely not a SAG, since that gun as very unique optics. Visually, the closest thing would be plasma cannons, but KMK fill that role, which look completely different. So, just from the optics, it's probably going to be a high-caliber gun somewhere between dakkagun and kannon - which is no bad, as orks are kind on lacking in that area.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/08/15 06:12:57
7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 06:31:32
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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honestly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's simply an updated take on the buggy rokkit launcha...there's a lot of more advanced looking gubbinz on it, but it does have that toofy blast shield on the front, which I feel has a history with rokkit launchas (although, now that I think about it, I'm struggling to back that up, aside from the rokkit launcha in the boyz kit?)
...but hey, I'm more than willing to be happily surprised with some fresh kinds of dakka!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 06:50:55
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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I think it's safe to assume the weapon is anti vehicle given the context of the game. Perhaps a weapon that damages and literally slows it's target?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 08:32:46
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Hard to tell yet but i don't think ork vehicle and biker heavy lists are gona be that great regardless of what we get. Meta is adapting to fight 3++ knights and weapons that are good at popping knoghts are gona be amazing at popping ork vehicles with 4+ and 5++. So, unless vehicles and bikes are gona be dirt cheap, i doubt you're gona see more than a couple. Much more interested to see clan rules, new characters and maybe primorks of some kind.
It's all just a thought extrapolation but you can clearly see tourneys been drowned in knights. Both gt and local ones. Our last small tourney had an average of 1 knight per person.
So i'd rather not get too eager about ork vehicles yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/15 09:20:42
Subject: Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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ZoBo wrote:honestly, I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's simply an updated take on the buggy rokkit launcha...there's a lot of more advanced looking gubbinz on it, but it does have that toofy blast shield on the front, which I feel has a history with rokkit launchas (although, now that I think about it, I'm struggling to back that up, aside from the rokkit launcha in the boyz kit?)
...but hey, I'm more than willing to be happily surprised with some fresh kinds of dakka! 
The rokkit on the burna/loota spanna also has a blast-shield.
However, rokkits have always been shown as actual missiles with red or yellow tops. There is no way they will turn that into a high-caliber gun.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/16 16:43:33
Subject: Re:Making Orks Competitive in 8th - Waaaagh! (Ork tactics)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So, if you guys wanna take a break from salivating over the new model, i would like to discuss some strategy. Specifically Us Vs Tyranids strategy.
What has and has not worked for you guys? Discuss.
For me one thing i think im going to keep doing now is utilizing Shoota boyz. Plenty of targets in nid armies that will take good damage from them. they are still quite combat viable even without the extra attack.
I have personally seen fairly powerful overwatch results from them as well. I have had some success with what rockets have been in my army, and im considering tankbustas despite the lack of vehicles in the nid army. one ore thing to consider is that i was able to easily clear spore mines by directing 2-3 boyz to shoot at each one.
Before i say this, i know our walkers are not great right now, but i feel like they particularly dont work vs nids right now. Not enough attacks to chew gribblies and not tough enough to weather any of their monsters. My walker list fell apart at the end when combat happened, plus they have combat centric stratagems that tip the scales further.
So theres what worked / Didnt work for me.
I have been thing recently that based on alot of important Nid models that tankbustas might be a real answer for 3 wound low toughness things like zoanthropes/Venomthropes which in my head are high value targets. All it takes is 1 failed save to kill a model.
Where do you guys stand on actually targeting venomthropes? I think in alot of cases they should be priority 1 to remove the -1 hit aura but i have also been in situations where it seemed to be a waste of time and i would have rather targeted things outside their auras. What are your experiences?
tbh.
Im thinking i will run at least 1 biggtrakk (supaskorcha) / 6 tankbusta units. they are high yeild any time i have used them and i think they still have a place vs non vehivle armies. Prolly 2.
What do you guys say lets take a crack at nids for a bit? I lose most of my games to them.
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