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hive wrote:

 schoon wrote:
Would love to see an Adepta Sororitas Codex and plastic Sisters...

...but sadly agree that it's likely bunk.

I still believe we will see plastic Sisters of Battle by the end of the year. I remember that when the new canoness miniature came out at the end of 2016, GW was surprised by how well it sold and the story was that it pushed GW into doing more with the SoB. However, the GW process of miniature design through to final production seems to take about a year, so it would make sense that we don't see anything before the end of 2017.

Times vary.
IT can take a few months just to get moulds cut for plastic injection moulding, Add into that that there are kinks and issues that need to be worked out, variations of mould, optimisation ect ect, it can be 6 months just to get the mould ready.
BEfore you get to that you have concept, design, feedback, redesign, sculpting, alteration , resculpting, test printing, test casting, ect ect ect ect
The standard for GW seems to be three years of development with several projects on the go at once. I've no doubt that could push a faction out in a year, But I doubt they'd dedicate so much labour and time to getting it rushed out if it could risk lowering the number of people working on the dark imperium release.

Lots of meh in the Primaris range as far as I'm concerned. I like normal Mk.X well enough, but everything else just isn't for me. Reivers seem to follow the shoeless daedric armor school of sneaking. After so, so many years of Marines with disco pants, they just look odd.

I hope the medium box's rulebook has the full rules in it. I'm not a fan of lugging around two hundred pages of background and always like the small rulebooks GW used to have. Would be good to have that for 8th ed, too.

I do like that they've included game mats and scenery, even if it is very basic. Something like that should go into a good starter set.

The 12 page PDF of rules that is available on the GW website has all the rules I think. Other from model specific rules found in the index.

I spend a couple bucks to have that PDF printed and added coil binding and a cover & back to it.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 theharrower wrote:

timd wrote:
Librarian is a definite nod to Nicol Williamson in Excalibur.

Chikout wrote:
New stuff!! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/25/new-primaris-space-marines-and-death-guard-announced/
I particularly like the librarian.

I thought he looked familiar! Good call.

I like the look of all these minis. Reivers armament has me scratching my head tho. In a world of Thunder Hammers and Storm Shields, the premier close combat unit of the Primaris Marines is armed with knives and bolt pistols? It'll all depend on stats, but I think it's an odd choice.

Yeah, they haven't said this. They said they are "guerilla specialists". More a Primaris Scout-analogue than an assault unit.

Actually, looks like they did and I was pretty sure I read it somewhere before. I stand by my original assessment. Though from reading this, I guess they win with tech over weapon choices.

So heavy bolt pistol, which is hand held version of the bolt rifle... So bolt rifle bolts and not heavy bolter bolts I presume. Melee weapon is still called combat knife, I doubt it will have particularly impressive rules.

Also, the background art shows a Reiver with a (regular, old style) bolter, and what is weirder still, it seems that on the pic is superimposed a picture of a Reiver model holding a bolt rifle.

Maybe it's like how Scouts are supposed to be infiltration units, but can still carry shotguns or bolters?

This seems kind of all over the place.

https://regimental-standard.com/2017/06/28/dont-fear-the-reiver/

Oh, there's more! apparently they're howling banshee space marines!

More like a cross between a Night Lord and a Sonic Marine.

That's kinda cool actually.

 infinite_array wrote:
Maybe it's like how Scouts are supposed to be infiltration units, but can still carry shotguns or bolters?

This seems kind of all over the place.

Ork Kommandos love their Burnas and their Shotguns too

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

 Rayvon wrote:

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

Given we're discussing an official image, I assume an employee of Games Workshop LTD is responsible.

 Rayvon wrote:

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

Reivers.

And don't try to play the "GW made up the name" nonsense.

Also, it sounds like it is an application of the Sicarian Infiltrator Neurostatic Helmets. Which is kind of cool.

 Rayvon wrote:

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

More ridiculous than 8 foot venom-spitting supermen wearing bright yellow armour? More ridiculous than the Catholic Church in space with plasma guns?

I understand that it's your opinion, but it always strikes me as strange when people call new GW ip "ridiculous." We're all already immersed in the most bat-sh*t off-the-wall pants-on-head nutty universe, and presumably we all love it for this. Skull-faced kill teams really don't seem that out of place in a universe populated by deamon-smiting space monks or ancient Egyptian doom robots.

Grapnel Launchers made by Kharadron Overlords and sent into the future!

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

More ridiculous than 8 foot venom-spitting supermen wearing bright yellow armour? More ridiculous than the Catholic Church in space with plasma guns?

I understand that it's your opinion, but it always strikes me as strange when people call new GW ip "ridiculous." We're all already immersed in the most bat-sh*t off-the-wall pants-on-head nutty universe, and presumably we all love it for this. Skull-faced kill teams really don't seem that out of place in a universe populated by deamon-smiting space monks or ancient Egyptian doom robots.

I get where you're coming from, but different strokes for different folks.

Me I love these new guys and cant wait to get some.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

More ridiculous than 8 foot venom-spitting supermen wearing bright yellow armour? More ridiculous than the Catholic Church in space with plasma guns?

I understand that it's your opinion, but it always strikes me as strange when people call new GW ip "ridiculous." We're all already immersed in the most bat-sh*t off-the-wall pants-on-head nutty universe, and presumably we all love it for this. Skull-faced kill teams really don't seem that out of place in a universe populated by deamon-smiting space monks or ancient Egyptian doom robots.

I get where you're coming from, but different strokes for different folks.

Me I love these new guys and cant wait to get some.

Oh, agreed. I probably was too aggressive in my response.

Wait.. they're actually officially mispelled as "reivers"? I just figured I kept seeing it in this thread because someone misspelled it and kept getting quoted. I'm not a fan of the armor look and helmet (unlike with the normal Mk X which I like) but I do like the bigger bolt pistol. They should have done that for all the pistols of Adeptus Restartes and left the old weapons for Secundus Marines and the rest of the riff raff like IG/SOB/=I=.

 warboss wrote:
Wait.. they're actually officially mispelled as "reivers"? I just figured I kept seeing it in this thread because someone misspelled it and kept getting quoted.

See again how it's okay for it to be a misspelling...

But yes, they are officially called "Reivers".

 warboss wrote:
Wait.. they're actually officially mispelled as "reivers"? I just figured I kept seeing it in this thread because someone misspelled it and kept getting quoted.

It's not a mispelling, actually.
It refers to a 17th century band of raiders.

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

More ridiculous than 8 foot venom-spitting supermen wearing bright yellow armour? More ridiculous than the Catholic Church in space with plasma guns?

I understand that it's your opinion, but it always strikes me as strange when people call new GW ip "ridiculous." We're all already immersed in the most bat-sh*t off-the-wall pants-on-head nutty universe, and presumably we all love it for this. Skull-faced kill teams really don't seem that out of place in a universe populated by deamon-smiting space monks or ancient Egyptian doom robots.

I get where you're coming from, but different strokes for different folks.

Me I love these new guys and cant wait to get some.

Oh, agreed. I probably was too aggressive in my response.

Oh no not at all, I was just putting that line of thought out there.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Wait.. they're actually officially mispelled as "reivers"? I just figured I kept seeing it in this thread because someone misspelled it and kept getting quoted.

It's not a mispelling, actually.
It refers to a 17th century band of raiders.

B-b-but why is called Ancient if Adeptus Restartes are just like... 2 years old?!

I actually like that they using archaic terms as part of their naming conventions. It does give an interesting flavor to the Primaris, and I'd rather that than Wolf Blood of the murderfang wolf claws of frost nonsense they did for Space Wolves.

I agree. Is a bit of fresh air that they use real world terms for their units.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I actually like that they using archaic terms as part of their naming conventions. It does give an interesting flavor to the Primaris, and I'd rather that than Wolf Blood of the murderfang wolf claws of frost nonsense they did for Space Wolves.

Natrually, I expect to se some Primaris Wolfitors, Primaris Fanginators, Primaris Primewolf Cavalry, and the mighty Primefrost Wolf Claw Storminator. It will be over the wolf top, and sweet as wolf.
Jokes aside, I expect to see lots more primaris before we see any kind of "updated" existing units for any faction.

 Galas wrote:
I agree. Is a bit of fresh air that they use real world terms for their units.

Yes, that faux latin was just too modern and trendy for grimdark hipsters.


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 Galas wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Wait.. they're actually officially mispelled as "reivers"? I just figured I kept seeing it in this thread because someone misspelled it and kept getting quoted.

It's not a mispelling, actually.
It refers to a 17th century band of raiders.

B-b-but why is called Ancient if Adeptus Restartes are just like... 2 years old?!

You're just not forging the narrative (8th edition style) hard enough.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Wait.. they're actually officially mispelled as "reivers"? I just figured I kept seeing it in this thread because someone misspelled it and kept getting quoted.

It's not a mispelling, actually.
It refers to a 17th century band of raiders.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. That would explain it as the 1600's were still a relatively lawless (grammatically speaking) period of the language shortly after the tumultuous Great English Vowel Shift. Then you have to factor in the Scots...

 warboss wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I agree. Is a bit of fresh air that they use real world terms for their units.

Yes, that faux latin was just too modern and trendy for grimdark hipsters.

I'm sorry but I haven't understand this
I like the "pseudo latin" GW uses.

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

I understand that it's your opinion, but it always strikes me as strange when people call new GW ip "ridiculous." We're all already immersed in the most bat-sh*t off-the-wall pants-on-head nutty universe, and presumably we all love it for this. Skull-faced kill teams really don't seem that out of place in a universe populated by deamon-smiting space monks or ancient Egyptian doom robots.

Obviously Skull Mask Supermen in space are ridiculous, but Pigface Bascinent Space Knights are totally realistic.

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

 Rayvon wrote:

These Reavers look terrible as well as sounding ridiculous.

Who writes this stuff ?

More ridiculous than 8 foot venom-spitting supermen wearing bright yellow armour? More ridiculous than the Catholic Church in space with plasma guns?

I understand that it's your opinion, but it always strikes me as strange when people call new GW ip "ridiculous." We're all already immersed in the most bat-sh*t off-the-wall pants-on-head nutty universe, and presumably we all love it for this. Skull-faced kill teams really don't seem that out of place in a universe populated by deamon-smiting space monks or ancient Egyptian doom robots.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

They just look and sound really silly to me, I cannot really put my finger on it, its not the names either, I could not give a feth what they are called !!

 Galas wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I agree. Is a bit of fresh air that they use real world terms for their units.

Yes, that faux latin was just too modern and trendy for grimdark hipsters.

I'm sorry but I haven't understand this
I like the "pseudo latin" GW uses.

I could see how it would be mildly annoying to someone whom was a student of Latin though

but yeah, it looks like GW is deliberatly trying to use somewhat archaic words for the Primaris Marines, which is a nice touch given Gulliman's own... time displacement

It's not a mispelling, actually.
It refers to a 17th century band of raiders.

The Border Reivers were not a 'band' as such but a group of extended families/clans ranging along the English/Scottish border from the west coast to the east coast. The border area was pretty rough and largely of subsistence level value. It was more effort for the 2 crowns to try and control and fight each other over, than just leave the families living there to their own devices (which involved a lot of raiding) and have effectively a 'no kings land' buffer zone between them.

On both sides they acted as effectively a ready made militia against the other side (even if they did raid as well). Whilst pretty independent, those to the south largely identified as English and to the north Scottish. They existed for about 400 years, being largely forced to change to a less violent life style (or just executed/exiled) from the start of the 17 century as James was King of both Scotland and England and it was no longer so convenient to have such a large lawless area.


Some of the the Reiver names are quite common, partly due to closing them down which scattered many of them at exactly the same time that the (now) UK was colonising the new world etc. I can trace back to them. According to my Dad's version of family history we made what would have been a small fortune at the battle of Solway moss capturing Scottish nobles, and then relocated further south (maybe slightly later when James became king and moved against the Reiver way of life).