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Please give us info on agressors and reivers pls!!!!

Oh man I would love to know the stats of the Redemptor(?) Dreadnought's weapons. I know you can't post points either but can you tell us how many melta bombs that beast comes to? lol

Thank you for the great review, Matt!

So did I understand correctly that there are generic relics anyone can take, not just chapter specific ones?

Are the transports still segragated between primaris/non-primaris?

I too would like to hear more about primaris characters, do they get proper options? Can characters have inceptor jump gravis armour?

Check the power levels, many of them have gone up, even on units that didn't change.

We can safely assume that all those new stratagems and CT come with an increased cost for the models.

Absolutely infuriating to post pictures that are essentially unreadable.

 d-usa wrote:


So is it just the "no units without [keyword] in the detachment" restriction to get CT that's been suggested?

Doesn't even go that far. Imagine you have a detachment that binds everything together with keyword Imperium (I am assuming Battle-forged here). If you have a bunch of Guard (sorry, Militarum), some Sisters, a gaggle of Ultramarines, and one Salamanders Dreadnought, you can use the Flamecraft Salamanders Stratagem on the latter simply by paying the CP. You can then use the Scions of Guilliman Stratagem on an Ultramarines squad.

It really is wide ranging - so long as you have a suitable unit in the force, you can use the Stratagem.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Are Auto-Boltrifles still AP nothing?

Indeed, no change - but you don't really need AP on those guns

K177Y wrote:
Thanks for answering questions.

What are the rules for the Tome of Malcador? And, are there any bonuses for upgrading to a chapter master other than what was already shown in the index?

Tome gives you an extra psychic power. As for Chapter Masters, I may be going blind, but I am not seeing the option...

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Absolutely infuriating to post pictures that are essentially unreadable.

I was able to read most of it after zooming in.

You can barely read it, but it would seem that reivers can indeed deepstrike / infiltrate.

Grav Chutes allow them to be deployed anywhere more than 9" of an enemy, grapple hooks are a bit more complicated, but it seems they allow the unit to deploy within 6" of a board edge and 9" away from an enemy.
I think they allow movement shenanigans but I'm not sure.

Jacksmiles wrote:

 Colpicklejar wrote:
Absolutely infuriating to post pictures that are essentially unreadable.

I was able to read most of it after zooming in.

CSI Enhance it.

i find it odd that the reivers are not on the 2nd company picture.

Seriously i want to know what rowboat did to the codex structure.

j0hnnyllama wrote:
can you share what wargear options the Primaris Captain has, and the Gravis variant? Curious to see if they're stuck with the very limited load outs we've seen so far.

I would love to know this as well.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 d-usa wrote:


So is it just the "no units without [keyword] in the detachment" restriction to get CT that's been suggested?

Doesn't even go that far. Imagine you have a detachment that binds everything together with keyword Imperium (I am assuming Battle-forged here). If you have a bunch of Guard (sorry, Militarum), some Sisters, a gaggle of Ultramarines, and one Salamanders Dreadnought, you can use the Flamecraft Salamanders Stratagem on the latter simply by paying the CP. You can then use the Scions of Guilliman Stratagem on an Ultramarines squad.

It really is wide ranging - so long as you have a suitable unit in the force, you can use the Stratagem.

Yes, but what about chapter tactics? What's the restriction on them?

MongooseMatt wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Are Auto-Boltrifles still AP nothing?

Indeed, no change - but you don't really need AP on those guns

Maybe them being Assault 2 en-mass makes them better, but I think I will still give them a pass for the standard Bolt Rifle or Stalker Bolt Rifle.

Can you list / explain the stratagems and relics?

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

MongooseMatt wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Are Auto-Boltrifles still AP nothing?

Indeed, no change - but you don't really need AP on those guns

Maybe them being Assault 2 en-mass makes them better, but I think I will still give them a pass for the standard Bolt Rifle or Stalker Bolt Rifle.

Can reivers take stalkers though? I didn't see that listed in their entry.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

MongooseMatt wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Are Auto-Boltrifles still AP nothing?

Indeed, no change - but you don't really need AP on those guns

Maybe them being Assault 2 en-mass makes them better, but I think I will still give them a pass for the standard Bolt Rifle or Stalker Bolt Rifle.

Can reivers take stalkers though? I didn't see that listed in their entry.

Idk, I was asking because he mentioned the Intercessors being able to have Stalkers, Autos or Standard.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 d-usa wrote:


So is it just the "no units without [keyword] in the detachment" restriction to get CT that's been suggested?

Doesn't even go that far. Imagine you have a detachment that binds everything together with keyword Imperium (I am assuming Battle-forged here). If you have a bunch of Guard (sorry, Militarum), some Sisters, a gaggle of Ultramarines, and one Salamanders Dreadnought, you can use the Flamecraft Salamanders Stratagem on the latter simply by paying the CP. You can then use the Scions of Guilliman Stratagem on an Ultramarines squad.

It really is wide ranging - so long as you have a suitable unit in the force, you can use the Stratagem.

But what about Chapter Tactics rather than Stratagems?

What is the Repulsor actually armed with?

 Desubot wrote:
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are the new 5 man units considered the full unit or something or is there now 120 marines per company?

Are the new interceptor armor just like centurion armor that existing assault squads just jump into?

A hundred-ish marines (if you include the two Dreadnoughts and ignore characters, exactly 100!).

As for the new armour, they are all kind of melded together under 'Close Support' or 'Fire Support'. Don't expect things to be quite so rigid now. Guilliman seems to be more relaxed in his old age.

j0hnnyllama wrote:
can you share what wargear options the Primaris Captain has, and the Gravis variant? Curious to see if they're stuck with the very limited load outs we've seen so far.

As before, but just noticed that Primaris Captain and Primaris Captain in Gravis Armour are two different things. That is new, right?

 Crimson wrote:

So did I understand correctly that there are generic relics anyone can take, not just chapter specific ones?

Are the transports still segragated between primaris/non-primaris?

I too would like to hear more about primaris characters, do they get proper options? Can characters have inceptor jump gravis armour?

There are indeed 'generic' relics. If you get what I mean.

Yup, Marines are still big on segregation. But the Primaris are hitting back and not letting Marines Classic into their Repulsor.

As for characters, looks like you just get what comes with the model.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
You can barely read it, but it would seem that reivers can indeed deepstrike / infiltrate.

Grav-chutes are indeed a thing for Reivers. Grapnek aunchers allow for vertical movement and for popping up near a table edge mid-game. Grav-chutes are standard deep strike.

 Desubot wrote:


Seriously i want to know what rowboat did to the codex structure.

I think he is still adding bits in blue crayon.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:


Yes, but what about chapter tactics? What's the restriction on them?

Sorry, I went off on a tangent there (end of the week, give me a break ). Every unit in a detachment does indeed need to be of the same chapter Keyword to get the use of the tactic.

Oh speaking of Guillyman

What does the repulsor do?

im curious as to know what the heavy lascannon does.

 Desubot wrote:
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im curious as to know what the heavy lascannon does.

You mean the Las-Talon? It is a 24" twin-Lascannon. That is all.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
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im curious as to know what the heavy lascannon does.

You mean the Las-Talon? It is a 24" twin-Lascannon. That is all.

No the fat lascannon on the top of the repulsor. the one that gets bonus to hit if the random stubber does a thing.

Is that it? Sounds a bit bland for a new weapon. Is it cheaper than a standard twin lascannon?

I'm trying to read the text on the Crusader Helm but it is a little small, any clarity on what it is would be great. Also do you happen to have the warlord trait I'm interested in the BT one if you have it, thanks!

Balor wrote:
I'm trying to read the text on the Crusader Helm but it is a little small can clarity on what it is would be great. Also do you happen to have the warlord trait I'm interested in the BT one if you have it, thanks!

Apparently its a charisma hat that increases the characters aura by 3"s

So is Commander a new rank?

And are Captains stuck with the loadout on the single pose minis?

 Desubot wrote:

Balor wrote:
I'm trying to read the text on the Crusader Helm but it is a little small can clarity on what it is would be great. Also do you happen to have the warlord trait I'm interested in the BT one if you have it, thanks!

Apparently its a charisma hat that increases the characters aura by 3"s

I will take that I can get better prices in town when I barter now. At least it is not a wizards hat. /burn the witch

MongooseMatt wrote:

As for characters, looks like you just get what comes with the model.

Well, gak. That sucks big time.

That linebreaker bombardment is AWESOME!

@MongooseMatt

Thanks for posting that. Do primaris squads get more options for the squad and/or the sergeant in the codex compared with the index or starter set rules?

Daedalus81 wrote:
That linebreaker bombardment is AWESOME!

Whats it doooooo?

also hellfire shells are now in a strat. neat. d3 mortal wounds.

Also yeah much appreciated mongoose.