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 Orock wrote:
Orks - 11W 29L

Just shoot me now.

Wouldn't that add another loss to the Orks' record?
Oh well.
*pew pew*

8 games, 8 wins.

Harlequins vs Nids
Harlequins vs Nids
Harlequins vs Dark Eldar
Craftworlds vs Daemons
Craftworlds vs Nids
Craftworlds vs Death Guard
Harlequins vs Space Marines
Harlequins vs Krieg

Necrons vs IG - necron win
Necrons vs Tyranids - necron win

I'm counting about 16 ork wins...or is it just me?

SilverAlien wrote:

SilverAlien wrote:
My results:

Admech victories:
Admech vs craftworld eldar (1)
Admech vs tyranids (1)
Admech vs space marines (2)
Admech vs necrons (1)

Admech Loss
Admech vs Orks (1)
Admech vs Sisters of Battle (1)
Admech vs Chaos Demons (1)

Oh, full disclosure a few of these I was running a knight as a super heavy, so I guess they'd technically be imperium armies?

I'd still call it Admech, all Imperial Knights bend the knee to Mars in some way, and some straight up serve Admech.

Wish I could've played more games... Local store has wonky hours and won't accept the community trying to organize a Warhammer day each week...

Imperial Guard vs. Emperors Children - Imperial Guard win. Music of the Apocalypse is rough to play around. Made my Suicide Scion squads 'suicide' portion happen... on my turn.
Imperial Guard vs Emperors Children - Imperial Guard loss. Harder this time, my opponent learned the value of bubble wrapping.
Imperium (Mainly IG, with a Knight and Roboute. Had to fill points) vs Orks, 3000 points vs 3000 points. Imperial Guard win. A bunch of Deffdreds, 2 Gorkanauts and a Stompa vs a Baneblade, Knight Crusader and 3 Russes, with various filler infantry on both sides. Stompa felt real weak for it's points. Baneblade spiked and put 15 damage from it's cannon on to the Stompa in one turn

Ynnari vs Dark Angels, Deathwing flavour. Ynnari loss. My first match on 8e, and I learned just how hard to kill Terminators are.

3 Games so far;

Space Marines (Ultrasmarines) vs Chaos Marines/Demons. 2000 points. Space marines win (Go me!)
Space Marines (Ultrasmarines) vs Chaos Marines/Demons. 2000 points, same lists. Chaos win (Go me again! We switched armies and I beat my opponent with his own army)
Nids/Nids vs Tau/Blood Angels. 2v2, 1000 points per player. Nids win (go me again!)

I'm 3-0 ATM, playing with 3 different armies.

Let's see, Playing Chaos Nurgle Dp spam I am at:

Daemons Vs Necrons (some weird janky first turn in your face): win
Daemosn vs Dark angels (ravenwing): Win
Daemons Vs Csm( land raiders + zerkers): Win
Daemons vs Eldar (Solid list): Win
Daemons vs Deathwatch (TAC list): Win
Daemons vs Tau (Commander + cyclic spam): Win
Daemons Vs BA ( solid list): Win
Daemons Vs Necrons( weird list, again different player): Win
Daemons Vs Nids ( genestealer spam): Win

My list is just 9 DP's of nurgle, belakor, and 7 nurglings.

Updated.

Poor Orks!

 mrhappyface wrote:

Eldar - 21W 14L
Orks - 19W 36L

Let us now have a minutes silence for the Orks...

*Pauses for a minute*

Discrepancies there will be from self-reports and non-competitive gaming, but these results surprise me. CWE was pegged early on as being the clear bottom-tier army, while horde armies looked set to dominate.

Hrmm...

W/L ratio:
Eldar: 3/2 (thanks Melissa, I had a brain fart)
Orks: 19/36 (damn 19 is a prime number), close to 1/2

Minor correction; Craftworld Eldar's winrate in your post actually comes across as 1.5:1 (or 3:2), not 3:1.

Ordering by win percentage:

Inquisition - 1.000
Renegade Guard - 1.000
Emperors Children - 0.750
Daemons - 0.706
Adeptus Sororitas - 0.667
Thousand Sons - 0.625
Grey Knights - 0.625
World Eaters - 0.625
Astra Militarium - 0.610
Eldar - 0.600

Dark Eldar - 0.536
Tyranids - 0.526
Space Wolves - 0.522
Chaos Space Marines - 0.514
Blood Angels - 0.500
Harlequins - 0.500
Imperial Knights - 0.500
Ynnari - 0.500
Ad mech - 0.476
Necrons - 0.444

Space Marines - 0.395
Deathwatch - 0.385
Dark Angels - 0.381
Death Guard - 0.375
Tau - 0.346
Orks - 0.345
Adeptus Custodes - 0.333
Genestealer Cult - 0.250
Fallen - 0.000

What the hell are World Eaters players fielding that is netting them so many wins?

Probably berserkers. Seriously Khornate units are fething scary when used right.

 andysonic1 wrote:
What the hell are World Eaters players fielding that is netting them so many wins?

BERZERKERS! Haven't you tried them yet? Also, for my money, many of my games have been won because of Khorne Terminators (and a Khorne Lord): Deep Strike + Combi-Plasmas + re-rolls to charge + tying up dangerous units turn 1, seriously without those Terminators to tie up units while my Berzerkers move up I probably wouldn't have done so well.

Eldar vs Knights: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs Knights: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs IG: Eldar Win
Eldar vs Knights: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs Tau: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs Imperial Fists: Eldar Win

Knight vs Orks: Knight win
Knight vs Imperium (IG, Assassins, Guilliman): Knight Win

To date I've seen/played Knights 7 times, and they've lost twice. The opponent in both those games was another pure Knight army.

 Selym wrote:

 techsoldaten wrote:
This is my record so far:

Black Legion vs Aeldari - win
Black Legion vs Orks - win
Black Legion vs Salamanders - win
Black Legion vs Craftworld Eldar - win
Black Legion vs Astra Militarum - loss
Black Legion vs Ultramarines - win

Is it just me or have Eldar been massively nerfed?

It's just you. For most areas the Eldar are still auto win. The WK is comparable to a IK but is much cheaper, Scatter Lasers still mulch everything, and the Eldar are inexplicably both faster and more durable per point that everyone else.

Also WS spam is back, and cheaper than ever!

...I'm reading the Wraithknight at 27PL vs. 23PL for an IK (about 50pts more expensive depending on loadout). It is a bit more durable (5++ all the time), but its damage output is comparable or worse. My play experience of Scatter Lasers is leaving me incredibly underwhelmed and the math says the shuriken cannon is superior against anything with an armour save. And I have no idea where you're getting "more durable per point" out of the army with 8pt Guardsmen (normally 4pts) and T4/4+ bikes for the price of T5/3+ Marine bikes.

(Wave Serpents are still good, but "cheaper than ever" is a bit of an exaggeration given that they're 140pts minimum now when they were 115pts minimum last edition.)

(Addendum: The Eldar are still totally functional, but "still auto-win" is a gross exaggeration.)

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 techsoldaten wrote:
This is my record so far:

Black Legion vs Aeldari - win
Black Legion vs Orks - win
Black Legion vs Salamanders - win
Black Legion vs Craftworld Eldar - win
Black Legion vs Astra Militarum - loss
Black Legion vs Ultramarines - win

Is it just me or have Eldar been massively nerfed?

It's just you. For most areas the Eldar are still auto win. The WK is comparable to a IK but is much cheaper, Scatter Lasers still mulch everything, and the Eldar are inexplicably both faster and more durable per point that everyone else.

Also WS spam is back, and cheaper than ever!

...I'm reading the Wraithknight at 27PL vs. 23PL for an IK (about 50pts more expensive depending on loadout). It is a bit more durable (5++ all the time), but its damage output is comparable or worse. My play experience of Scatter Lasers is leaving me incredibly underwhelmed and the math says the shuriken cannon is superior against anything with an armour save. And I have no idea where you're getting "more durable per point" out of the army with 8pt Guardsmen (normally 4pts) and T4/4+ bikes for the price of T5/3+ Marine bikes.

(Wave Serpents are still good, but "cheaper than ever" is a bit of an exaggeration given that they're 140pts minimum now when they were 115pts minimum last edition.)

(Addendum: The Eldar are still totally functional, but "still auto-win" is a gross exaggeration.)

I was joking xD
Did my uncharacteristic ignorance of the facts not alert you to this? For shame!

Necrons vs. Fleshtearers, necron win
necrons vs. tau necron, win
necrons vs. renegade knights and magnus, Necron win
dark angels vs. IG, dark angels win (barely)
necrons vs many flavors of power armor, necrons win
necron vs primaris marines, primaris marines
necrons vs primaris marines, necron win

 mrhappyface wrote:
Updated.

Poor Orks!

I only count 42 ork games total. What is up with your numbers? Are you listing other games?

So, while straight win/loss is helpful, it would be more helpful to have four more pieces of information: 1) Mission, 2) Deployment Style, 3) Percentage and Type of Terrain Coverage, 4) Who went first....

 Selym wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

Eldar - 21W 14L
Orks - 19W 36L

Let us now have a minutes silence for the Orks...

*Pauses for a minute*

Discrepancies there will be from self-reports and non-competitive gaming, but these results surprise me. CWE was pegged early on as being the clear bottom-tier army, while horde armies looked set to dominate.

Hrmm...

W/L ratio:
Eldar: 3/2 (thanks Melissa, I had a brain fart)
Orks: 19/36 (damn 19 is a prime number), close to 1/2

Obviously it's because we all assumed that Eldar players are just WAAC nerds when in reality they're WAAC nerds who are also really good at the game!

JimOnMars wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
Updated.

Poor Orks!

I only count 42 ork games total. What is up with your numbers? Are you listing other games?

Sorry, what? Could you explain what you mean?

DCannon4Life wrote:So, while straight win/loss is helpful, it would be more helpful to have four more pieces of information: 1) Mission, 2) Deployment Style, 3) Percentage and Type of Terrain Coverage, 4) Who went first....

With this many games being recorded it would be a bit much to ask for details of all the games, that's what bat reps are for.

DCannon4Life wrote:
So, while straight win/loss is helpful, it would be more helpful to have four more pieces of information: 1) Mission, 2) Deployment Style, 3) Percentage and Type of Terrain Coverage, 4) Who went first....

Yes, but that isn't really data that can be easily analyzed here. This is a very rough indication since we don't know how good the opponents are either.

Daedalus81 wrote:

DCannon4Life wrote:
So, while straight win/loss is helpful, it would be more helpful to have four more pieces of information: 1) Mission, 2) Deployment Style, 3) Percentage and Type of Terrain Coverage, 4) Who went first....

Yes, but that isn't really data that can be easily analyzed here. This is a very rough indication since we don't know how good the opponents are either.

If we got 100+ results for each faction, there's a modicum of reliability. Overarching trends would appear.

 mrhappyface wrote:

JimOnMars wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
Updated.

Poor Orks!

I only count 42 ork games total. What is up with your numbers? Are you listing other games?

Sorry, what? Could you explain what you mean?

DCannon4Life wrote:So, while straight win/loss is helpful, it would be more helpful to have four more pieces of information: 1) Mission, 2) Deployment Style, 3) Percentage and Type of Terrain Coverage, 4) Who went first....

With this many games being recorded it would be a bit much to ask for details of all the games, that's what bat reps are for.

just going through, i saw about 42 games total for orks. You have them winning 19 and losing 36, for a total 55 games.

 JimOnMars wrote:
just going through, i saw about 42 games total for orks. You have them winning 19 and losing 36, for a total 55 games.

I count at least 46 Ork games just skimming through (may have missed some, it's late) and I've also added a few to the OP myself, but your not wrong: I have probably added some games accidently or added a few games twice. (I'm not brilliant at data entry and it has been a tyring week without having to type up scores as well)

game from today:
necrons vs SW - SW win

Tyranids vs Tau - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Necrons - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Dark Angels - Draw
Tyranids vs Necrons - Draw
Tyranids vs Death Guard - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Dark Angels - Tyranid Win
Tyranids vs Celestine, Imperial Knight & Skitari - Tyranid Loss

Its been a good run so far! Loving the bugs in 8th

 djones520 wrote:
Eldar vs Knights: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs Knights: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs IG: Eldar Win
Eldar vs Knights: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs Tau: Eldar Loss
Eldar vs Imperial Fists: Eldar Win

Knight vs Orks: Knight win
Knight vs Imperium (IG, Assassins, Guilliman): Knight Win

To date I've seen/played Knights 7 times, and they've lost twice. The opponent in both those games was another pure Knight army.

What's so difficult about fighting Knights?