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 vipoid wrote:
Any idea how they'll do stuff like Ynnari or Harlequins? Even combined it doesn't seem like there's enough stuff to warrant a full codex for them.

They could crow bar in aload of new stuff to justify the stand alone codex - See Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Dark Angels - or go down the Kinghts and Ad MEch initial realease Codex and not bother doing very much at all.

So just relese the Ynnari codex with the three characters and the data sheets for all relevant Eldar units.

Harelquins could go down the route of "clown" class Wraith Kinghts etc.

Yes, Astra Militarum and AdMech according to that WarCom hint. We had rumors from Atia a while ago, the latter may get new models in the future but this was way before 8th.

And it sounds like Orks, Necs and Dark Eldar after December:

Warhammer-Community on Chapter Approved

Since Warhammer 40,000: Dark Imperium was launched, we have released several codexes, but there are still plenty of Factions – Orks, Drukhari, Necrons etc. – that don’t yet have a codex of their own. Chapter Approved gives these players a sneak peek of what many of these factions can expect when their codex is released (we are hard on work to get that done as quickly as we can), but one of the things we wanted to do was give everyone access to ‘objective secured’ right away:

So ObSec spam confirmed for pretty much all battle forged troops eventually then?

They had to toss troops a bone otherwise they would never sell another box.

That new Mortarion is sick. Picture is floating around on B&C.

 Brometheus wrote:
That new Mortarion is sick. Picture is floating around on B&C.

No xenos models makes Gamgee a dull dull modeller.

How much you want to bet the Dark Eldar won't get models even though they desperately need them.

His wings are cool but the rest is meh. It would be great for a Tyranid conversion.

Oh he is cool. How annoying. May have to find the funds for one!

 Gamgee wrote:
How much you want to bet the Dark Eldar won't get models even though they desperately need them.

How do you figure? Plastic versions of some of our existing models (incubi, mandrakes, grots) would be nice, but other than that I thought we had one of the most up to date, prettiest model ranges in the game.

(Or did you mean we need new models and new units to go with them, like how the Imperium keeps getting new candy every week? Cuz I can get behind that.)

((And EITHER way I'm not taking that bet because it's a sure win for you...))

The current de range is great hence why I collect. I meant option 2 totally new models.

Wait...

If every "faction" gets ObjSec, what is the downside to playing "imperium master mix" exactly?

 BoomWolf wrote:
Wait...

If every "faction" gets ObjSec, what is the downside to playing "imperium master mix" exactly?

We *think* they meant it only applies to those sub factions where you choose a value, <faction> representing <legion> or <chapter>, but thats just speculative, as it is worded now could mean any faction.

It amazes me gw can't even manage something as simple as keywords tbh.

 pretre wrote:

Ah, that... looks like it's going to wiggle and wobble like Celestine, and be just as easy to break. Still looks good.

 Grimgold wrote:
They had to toss troops a bone otherwise they would never sell another box.

My point (admittedly not clear due to brevity) was that spamming the rule to all troops (like in previous editions) would have been better as a general rule if they were planning on giving it to every battleforged force instead of drip feeding it out will they/won't they in codex books over 6 months potentially. I don't have a problem with the rule itself but GW design team's "bespoke" fetish.

 warboss wrote:

 Grimgold wrote:
They had to toss troops a bone otherwise they would never sell another box.

My point (admittedly not clear due to brevity) was that spamming the rule to all troops (like in previous editions) would have been better as a general rule if they were planning on giving it to every battleforged force instead of drip feeding it out will they/won't they in codex books over 6 months potentially. I don't have a problem with the rule itself but GW design team's "bespoke" fetish.

I don't have any trouble with Bespoke, only as you suggest that some armies get Bespoken and others get BeShutUp for 12 months.

Tbh GW might only be giving the ObSec-like rule only to armies that tend to have more elite Troops, so armies like Guard, Daemons & Orks might not get it?

But then CSMs have Cultists so what do I know.

 JimOnMars wrote:

I don't have any trouble with Bespoke, only as you suggest that some armies get Bespoken and others get BeShutUp for 12 months.

I don't have a problem with bespoke rules but I do think they have their uses as well as limitations. Something was apparently is going to apply the same way to every unit in a basic category in the most common army comp type is better suited IMO to be a general rule. For instance, if they were going to make different versions of deep strike that vary in effectiveness (distance from the enemy, addendums regarding shooting/charging, etc) then that IMO would be suited to the "bespoke" category instead of having a general rule like in 3rd-7th and then an additional unit rule on top of that. YMMV.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Tbh GW might only be giving the ObSec-like rule only to armies that tend to have more elite Troops, so armies like Guard, Daemons & Orks might not get it?

But then CSMs have Cultists so what do I know.

Just saw the Warhammer Comm article and I was completely wrong

it might also be that the objective secured thing was sort of a last minute ".. the additional CPs aren't eneugh incentive for troops" situation

 Gamgee wrote:
No xenos models makes Gamgee a dull dull modeller.

How much you want to bet the Dark Eldar won't get models even though they desperately need them.

I´d say new model are bound to a new codex. I might be wrong but the last time i´ve read about drukhari was in the gathering storm series.
So i guess Drukhari are on the far end (=late 2018).

BrianDavion wrote:
it might also be that the objective secured thing was sort of a last minute ".. the additional CPs aren't eneugh incentive for troops" situation

Mhh i think we have 2 kinds of troop types. The first is already taken even without obj. sec. and for the second i´m not sure if that makes them tasty enough to get taken.

So the next codexs are AM and Admech then??

shank911 wrote:
So the next coders are AM and Admech?

According to?

shank911 wrote:
So the next codexs are AM and Admech then??

Death Guard is the next. As of the alternating between loyalists and traitors and that everything now is on SM vs. CSM another SM codex is likely, it might be Space Wolves followed by Thousand Sons.
Then all traitor legions are done and we could see some non (C)SM-Codices. Hoping for Admech with some new units prior to AM.

Firefox1 wrote:

shank911 wrote:
So the next codexs are AM and Admech then??

Death Guard is the next. As of the alternating between loyalists and traitors and that everything now is on SM vs. CSM another SM codex is likely, it might be Space Wolves followed by Thousand Sons.
Then all traitor legions are done and we could see some non (C)SM-Codices. Hoping for Admech with some new units prior to AM.

You know, or a Xenos Codex. The game actually has Factions other than IoM and Chaos.

Warhammer community has mentioned Astra militarum and Admech twice now when discussing upcoming codices, so it's safe to assume they are coming after DG.

They really weren't kidding about this year focusing on imperium vs chaos.

SilverAlien wrote:
Warhammer community has mentioned Astra militarum and Admech twice now when discussing upcoming codices, so it's safe to assume they are coming after DG.

They really weren't kidding about this year focusing on imperium vs chaos.

Necrons have cropped up a couple of times both in the example for the troops rule as above, but also when they first announced the first 4 books.

They also need little to no models for a release so I can see them following up admech maybe.

To my eyes the IG list in the indexes is a mess, with too many sub types and factions, so tidying it into a codex would be good.

Kriswall wrote:You know, or a Xenos Codex. The game actually has Factions other than IoM and Chaos.

Not voting against Xeno codices, i would prefer those way above any sub-facton SM or CSM codex, but i´m just not expecting them.
Though i think the first xeno codices will be for Aeldari and Necrons.

SilverAlien wrote:Warhammer community has mentioned Astra militarum and Admech twice now when discussing upcoming codices, so it's safe to assume they are coming after DG.

They really weren't kidding about this year focusing on imperium vs chaos.

I do expect AdMech and AM to be 2 of the 10 and see AdMech prior to AM with some new models (e. g. legio cybernetica doesn´t consists only of Kastellans).
I hardly can see new models for AM as their ain´t really a type missing.

IIRC Thousand Sons are supposed to be somewhere in the 5-8th codex slots.

 BoomWolf wrote:
IIRC Thousand Sons are supposed to be somewhere in the 5-8th codex slots.

Its as bad as I thought - 5+ Marine Codex's in the first 8.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:
IIRC Thousand Sons are supposed to be somewhere in the 5-8th codex slots.

Its as bad as I thought - 5+ Marine Codex's in the first 8.

Rumours I heard ages ago were that it was Marine heavy and then the Xenos coming in last and into early next year. Which does make some sense when you consider that Marines make up an obscene amount of GW sales and collectors. It's not devaluing other factions either as we still have the Xeno books and such to play with. A far cry from the recent past when you had to wait, sometimes years and sometime never got a new codex for a new edition. And during that whole waiting time you had to use the last versions edition.