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So.... what is everyone thinking about release dates for the new stuff we haven't seen yet?

Next week will be Ad Mech reveals and preorders on the 16th and releases on the 23rd.

Do you suppose we'll see previews dropping for the new tank+characters on 9/24?

God I'm so hyped to see a preview copy review! Never been this excited for a 40k release

Qlanth wrote:
So.... what is everyone thinking about release dates for the new stuff we haven't seen yet?

Next week will be Ad Mech reveals and preorders on the 16th and releases on the 23rd.

Do you suppose we'll see previews dropping for the new tank+characters on 9/24?

I think that would be the latest, depends what the admech preorders are. I wonder if they originally planned to release admech and DG together like CSM and GK but something about how that went (maybe sales) have made them change their minds. Would explain the WD typo. But if Admech is just book, dice, cards and Cawl that may not be enough for a release and so DG round 2 might be as early as next week for preorder. Seems unlikely though as then DG and admech release would be fighting, more likely some filler bits next week with AM and as you say a reveal on the 24th for DG wave 2.

I just want to get my copy ordered tomorrow.

So I can pick it up next weekend and plan a list in one night. Haha!

I'm not privy to more information. But based on the past 12 new-format WDs, the magazine has not shown everything that will be released. The month's major release is often split between two issues. So we only got to see the first week or two of it to prevent leaks etc.

That AdMech will be up for preorder on the 16th and there isnt more of DG shown does not rule out Death Guard preorders on the saturdays after the 9th.

I recommend not to jump to conclusions based on September WD. We dont know if there will be a break, there is some odd wording regarding the DG release like 'over the next months' and such, so it could be that there will be a week without DG...

But I seriously doubt GW will sell the Codex on the 16th, without offering all the units for preorder when people are interested in buying them. We had this situation before, and with their online promotion WD has not been the first to preview stuff in a long while.

That all being said I think we can assume with confidence that there will be further images of all the new releases (that are coming out in the next few weeks) in the codex, as they wouldn't not use pics in a codex to mantain secrecy for a couple of weeks. As we should get a review of the dex tonight, we should therefore get a very good idea of all the new kits in the next 24 hours.

 jamesterjlrb wrote:
That all being said I think we can assume with confidence that there will be further images of all the new releases (that are coming out in the next few weeks) in the codex, as they wouldn't not use pics in a codex to mantain secrecy for a couple of weeks. As we should get a review of the dex tonight, we should therefore get a very good idea of all the new kits in the next 24 hours.

For sure. It is dawning on me that we'll probably have every single question answered except "When?" once those reviews come out.

The reviews on the CSM codex didn't seem have any holds barred. Entire statlines and points values, special rules, etc, were all revealed by everyone.

So the mystery will probably be over once the reviews drop. Kind of sad really! I love the mystery!

I agree with the Codex showing the upcoming stuff. Though careful with the 24h. There may be a review video tomorrow - but maybe not but later in the following week.

There may also be a glimpse at rules in the preview eBook samples which will be online tomorrow.

With stuff like Nurglings and Plague Bearers basically confirmed to be in the codex can anybody who is familiar with those units explain what their roles are? Why would I take Plague Bearers over Poxwalkers? Or, what are Nurglings good at?

I've never played any Daemons before so I'm just curious.

not sure if entirely true but found this in 4chan

Mortarion
Foulstench Flatullent (Back canister guy)
Toxicspew Injectocary (Apothecary)
Festulent Reckoner (Tallyman)
Plaguecrawler Pusmortar (Tank)
Plaguecrawler Gutslimer (Alt build for tank)
Malaisereaper Deathshrouds (Terminators)
Festermaggot Deathshrouds (alt build for Terminators)
Slimegarden Plaguesower (40k version of snail man)
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Yeah the 4 chan thing is busted. While we have two terminators we know they don't use the same kit, some names which are confirmed are changed their like plagueburst crawler, snail man probably won't be, and they named one "foul stench flatulent"

They are speaking about the snail box.

I am going to buy three Plague Crawlers and name them the "Furious Fartillery Fusillade"

zamerion wrote:


They are speaking about the snail box.

No, they're talking about the Start Collecting box.

Qlanth wrote:
With stuff like Nurglings and Plague Bearers basically confirmed to be in the codex can anybody who is familiar with those units explain what their roles are? Why would I take Plague Bearers over Poxwalkers? Or, what are Nurglings good at?

I've never played any Daemons before so I'm just curious.

Nurglings can infiltrate and are kinda hard to remove with small arms fire. Their multiwound nature, low toughness, and lack of a DR save against anything with a danage higher than one means they die easily to any heavier weapon. They basically work as a distraction for your enemy turn one, hopefully eating some shots from the larger and heavier guns to take pressure off your tanks and similar. Pretty tough for their cost but no real offensive power means enemies that don't need to advance can mostly ignore them though, just let them get stuck into their screening unit and neither side will do much.

Plague bearers fulfill a virtually identical role to poxwalkers, paying an extra ppm (maybe 2 if poxwalkers get the expected price cut) for an extra point of toughness and a 5+ inv save on top of DR. They also are a little better offensively and gain a -1 to all incoming attacks when taken in large numbers (20+), but lack fearless so you probably won't want to. If poxwalkers stay at 6ppm these might be a better choice over cultists, if you can spare a detachment for them. Arguably might be better than 5ppm poxwalkers after the recent price cut (I forgot they went down to 7ppm). They can also be summoned in mid game if needed (with all the issues that come with summoning).

Plague drones are fast (for nurgle, 10") melee units with lots of melee attacks and some short range shooting, as well as nurgle brand toughness and the fly keyword. Offers something DG lacks: a biker equivalent, albeit more melee focused. Probably one of the choices most likely to be used in DG, simply because we have a dearth of fast melee units (or fast units in general), the plague drone being the only other example of note.

Lastly is the beast of nurgle. If you ever found yourself saying "I'd really like to use chaos spawn, but they just don't feel useless enough" then this is the unit for you. It's seriously bad, to the point I'd highly recommend ignoring unless it gets a massive point decease.

Of course, we also have to compare these options to what the other legions can offer as allies, assuming we can't freely take them in a DG detachment. As an allied detachment, most legions offer us far more utility than these currently seem to, and I am not a fan of demonic summoning this edition. It's hard to say exactly what we need, but my bet seems to be alpha strike and mobility, the hammer for our anvil. Nurgle demons are, mostly, just more anvil.

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I am going to buy three Plague Crawlers and name them the "Furious Fartillery Fusillade"

What's weird is that fart jokes usually rely on being gross, yet here are infinitely more tasteful than what the unit actually canonically does. It gives my brain a weird tingle.

What does the Plague Crawlers? The new Drone is pretty ugly, collecting mud, blood and other... corpse rest from the ground to spit them like a flamethrower of... poop.

I'm assuming it's like the old nurgle demon engines from epic, where it's literally firing ground down corpses marinated in plague juice and filth as artillery.

SilverAlien wrote:


Lastly is the beast of nurgle. If you ever found yourself saying "I'd really like to use chaos spawn, but they just don't feel useless enough" then this is the unit for you. It's seriously bad, to the point I'd highly recommend ignoring unless it gets a massive point decease.

This is so true and perfect. I continue to be amazed by how useless of a unit listing Beasts of Nurgle are. Even GW seems to acknowledge it, they weren't even included as part of the Nurgle Daemon summoning stratagem in the last Konor mission.

Where can i find pictures of the back canister guy and of the apothecary?

Bluebeard wrote:
Where can i find pictures of the back canister guy and of the apothecary?

We have a couple in the opening post from WD. The most recent teaser trailer GW had illustrations as well. Beyond that, none that I know of.

Ok thank you! I wasn't able to spot the apothecary but the canister guy looks extremely cool.

My hope is that the apothecary guy gives an aura of +1 to FNP rolls for nearby infantry and that the tallyman guy gives benefits based on enemy units killed, either by giving a bonus aura or by giving command points.

 Virules wrote:
My hope is that the apothecary guy gives an aura of +1 to FNP rolls for nearby infantry and that the tallyman guy gives benefits based on enemy units killed, either by giving a bonus aura or by giving command points.

I think the apothecary has a lot of potential, ice he has a solid aura our army will do much better. I'm quite curious to see what the others will do, assuming the bottle dude isn't an apothecary he could be quite unique. Same with tally man.

Yeah. As other people have pointed out, Death Guard pay heavy points for durable units, but it's more points efficient to get lots of cheap models and to just give them really powerful auras (commisars, waaaugh banner, ghazkull, etc.). And even space marines are cheaper with better auras (Gullimen, etc.).

Need something good to make plague marines tick.

Bluebeard wrote:
Ok thank you! I wasn't able to spot the apothecary but the canister guy looks extremely cool.

Look a few centimeters upwards from the red barrels at the bottom of the photo. There is a hooded guy (red hood like the Deathshroud Terminators) in MkIII power armour with an Apothecary backpack and other medical tools.

I was reading through the Death Guard part of the White Dwarf and couldn't help but notice they mention a stratagem called Blight Bombardment.

I'm betting on that being similar to the other strategems regarding vindis or artillery

4chan wrote:Toxicspew Injectocary (Apothecary)

Had I heard this 3 years ago I would have marked it as an obvious troll.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I was reading through the Death Guard part of the White Dwarf and couldn't help but notice they mention a stratagem called Blight Bombardment.

I'm betting on that being similar to the other strategems regarding vindis or artillery

Oh neat yeah I'd guess you are correct. That'll be handy I bet.

There's another one mentioned (Alongside cloud of flies and putrid detonatio) was Grandfathers Blessing, but I have no idea what that could be