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I doubt all of the models being released were shown in that video, a plastic Epidemius could well be coming. And those two Plaguebearers are almost certainly new characters and not just alternate sculpts for Musicians/Standard Bearers.

My first impressions for the plague Bearers is they are a special character unit, like the Tallyman or Blightbringer for Death Guard. The crier and the bagpipes probably do something...

Davor wrote:

Geifer wrote:Aside from that, yawn, more Nurgle.

What? Wanted more Stormcasts?

Funnily enough, I like the Sigmarine aesthetic way more than the new Nurgle/Death Guard one, so you know...

I don't begrudge Nurgle players (as a Black Legion player that includes me, technically) all the new shinies, but I would like to see a little more diversity offered by GW. I don't need Primaris and I don't fancy the new Nurgle style, so I've not had any reason to even consider buying new models for 40k for half a year, and it looks like next year is going to start off much the same.

It's great in the long run, having a complete and cohesive range of plastic models and all that. I always liked that about Tau and Necrons. But drawing out what is pretty much the same thing for months isn't all that great if you're not interested in any of it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:
Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?

I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.

Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.

I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.

I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.

The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.

I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.

Erren wrote:
I’m surprised we’re seeing what looks like alternate plaguebearer musician and standard bearer / herald instead of a plastic Epidemius.

It makes sense with Age of Sigmar in mind. Sigmarines have a trumpeter and banner waver HQ choice. Giving this option to other armies isn't surprising to me, and since 40k now has characters as separate units as well, fitting that in with Daemons makes sense.

As for no Epidemius, yeah, it's going to be odd if they keep him around in resin. Maybe they sold enough and think entirely new models will sell better than an old one converted to plastic.

 Geifer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:
Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?

I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.

Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.

I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.

I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.

The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.

I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.

I personally think that it might be those items are being held back for a future release for 40k in the form of a campaign book or as the first "proof" of how they can add new units without needing to add a new book by making the rules within the box and points available online(like they did with the Primaris for the non-Codex Marine books at launch).

 Geifer wrote:

Spoiler:

Davor wrote:

Geifer wrote:Aside from that, yawn, more Nurgle.

What? Wanted more Stormcasts?

Funnily enough, I like the Sigmarine aesthetic way more than the new Nurgle/Death Guard one, so you know...

I don't begrudge Nurgle players (as a Black Legion player that includes me, technically) all the new shinies, but I would like to see a little more diversity offered by GW. I don't need Primaris and I don't fancy the new Nurgle style, so I've not had any reason to even consider buying new models for 40k for half a year, and it looks like next year is going to start off much the same.

It's great in the long run, having a complete and cohesive range of plastic models and all that. I always liked that about Tau and Necrons. But drawing out what is pretty much the same thing for months isn't all that great if you're not interested in any of it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:
Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?

I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.

Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.

I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.

I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.

The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.

I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.

Erren wrote:
I’m surprised we’re seeing what looks like alternate plaguebearer musician and standard bearer / herald instead of a plastic Epidemius.

It makes sense with Age of Sigmar in mind. Sigmarines have a trumpeter and banner waver HQ choice. Giving this option to other armies isn't surprising to me, and since 40k now has characters as separate units as well, fitting that in with Daemons makes sense.

As for no Epidemius, yeah, it's going to be odd if they keep him around in resin. Maybe they sold enough and think entirely new models will sell better than an old one converted to plastic.

The Changeling wasn't part of the initial Disciples of Tzeentch teaser, either. I wouldn't rule out an updated Epidemius just yet. We still have 6 more days of Nurgle! As far as Pestigors go, I kind of hope they don't announce them with this initial release. This has more to do with how the god-specific armies work in AoS than 40k, but Tzeentch Arcanites rely heavily on Tzaangors, and I want each god's follower army to feel unique. I'd rather they hold Khorngors and Pestigors for a later date.

"Rotigus", the new character Great Unclean One.


The two other builds.



They're getting rules in the Chaos Daemons codex to "update" it.

I like the new kit, great details and nice variant bits. I especially dig the Wayne England-inspired tongue used on the last one.

Hmmm. Not bad. Color scheme is holding it back quite a bit, but loads better than the bloodthirster or lord of change

I don't like the color scheme either, which happens to me a lot with 'Eavy Metal these days, but the normal build that is reminiscent of both the old Great Unclean One and the Forgeworld one is pretty good. First of the new Greater Daemons I might actually buy.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

 Geifer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:
Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?

I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.

Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.

I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.

I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.

The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.

I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.

I personally think that it might be those items are being held back for a future release for 40k in the form of a campaign book or as the first "proof" of how they can add new units without needing to add a new book by making the rules within the box and points available online(like they did with the Primaris for the non-Codex Marine books at launch).

Probably, if they come at all. They may also compile new units' rules in Chapter Approved. That's easy filler if they want to release a book every year.

Mostly I just wonder if that'll happen because GW has given the Chaos forces very dedicated releases. Khorne with no end in sight (oddly enough the only one with precious little on the 40k side), then Tzeentch, and now Nurgle. I'm not convinced that they plan on returning to a force they've wrapped up anytime soon.

 EnTyme wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

Spoiler:

Davor wrote:

Geifer wrote:Aside from that, yawn, more Nurgle.

What? Wanted more Stormcasts?

Funnily enough, I like the Sigmarine aesthetic way more than the new Nurgle/Death Guard one, so you know...

I don't begrudge Nurgle players (as a Black Legion player that includes me, technically) all the new shinies, but I would like to see a little more diversity offered by GW. I don't need Primaris and I don't fancy the new Nurgle style, so I've not had any reason to even consider buying new models for 40k for half a year, and it looks like next year is going to start off much the same.

It's great in the long run, having a complete and cohesive range of plastic models and all that. I always liked that about Tau and Necrons. But drawing out what is pretty much the same thing for months isn't all that great if you're not interested in any of it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Paintalist wrote:
Are there any information if the BK on Drones are also a 40k unit or just usable for AoS?

I'd be extremely surprised if usable for 40k. We didn't see Blightkings in Death Guard after all.

Who knows, perhaps they change it with the upcoming daemon codex. I would appreciate it. But the new Beasts models and the GUO should be definitely in the new codex.

I mean this more in regards to how the Blightkings are Mortal followers in Age of Sigmar rather than daemonic ones. It'd be like seeing the Hellstriders(Marauders dedicated to Slaanesh riding Slaanesh Fiends) in the Chaos Daemons book or Skullcrushers of Khorne(Mortal Knights riding Juggernauts) in there.

I'm going to hedge my bets on us seeing Pestigors possibly or a Poxwalker kit for AoS+40k both.

The Pestigors absence in the Death Guard codex has me doubtful about that. Poxwalkers shouldn't be a problem, like Tzaangors, but I don't see mortal models getting a place in the daemon codex aside from Spawn because they can be created via abilities, as always.

I know people are hoping for Maggoths and Pestigors because of their mention in the background, but I'm not seeing it.

Erren wrote:
I’m surprised we’re seeing what looks like alternate plaguebearer musician and standard bearer / herald instead of a plastic Epidemius.

It makes sense with Age of Sigmar in mind. Sigmarines have a trumpeter and banner waver HQ choice. Giving this option to other armies isn't surprising to me, and since 40k now has characters as separate units as well, fitting that in with Daemons makes sense.

As for no Epidemius, yeah, it's going to be odd if they keep him around in resin. Maybe they sold enough and think entirely new models will sell better than an old one converted to plastic.

The Changeling wasn't part of the initial Disciples of Tzeentch teaser, either. I wouldn't rule out an updated Epidemius just yet. We still have 6 more days of Nurgle! As far as Pestigors go, I kind of hope they don't announce them with this initial release. This has more to do with how the god-specific armies work in AoS than 40k, but Tzeentch Arcanites rely heavily on Tzaangors, and I want each god's follower army to feel unique. I'd rather they hold Khorngors and Pestigors for a later date.

True, can't rule out Epidemius still getting a release.

The Gor thing seems more like a rules thing than anything else. Without having much experience myself, I reckon Tzaangors are popular because they are the only Tzeentchian choppy unit and the most durable to boot. You wouldn't have that problem with Khorngors and they could fill a good middle ground between Warriors and Marauders. Similarly, Slaangors might just give Slaaneshi armies something a bit more durable than usual.

But I don't think GW is too concerned with staple units and more with the overall image of an army. If they are returning to marked Beastmen in Age of Sigmar and more importantly want to reintroduce Beastmen in 40k as they seem to do, I'd find it odd if they stopped at Tzaangors.

Im digging that nurgling champion in the middle.

all 3 variants are a win imho.

i like them. probably build as Rot-guy.
Also this pick that shows a new beast & plague bearer on drone:

Cool model with some nice options - let down by the paintjob again, and I really dislike the Tim Burton styled curvy wood they keep throwing on every damn model.

Whats wrong with the paint job?

seems pretty standard guo

 Desubot wrote:
Whats wrong with the paint job?

Too clean and cute. It looks like its designed to pop for a Rainbow Bright cartoon.

Maybe im blind from the Christmas lights but eh i dont see it.

im sure some one will paint them dark and snotty eventually.

The entire current Nurgle palette is way too soft/bright...and doesn't deliver any darkness/forboding/fear or actual feeling or rot or decomposition. The entire Death Guard range by GW suffers the same. It's obviously not a complaint about the "technical" proficiency of the painter, but when I think of a Greater Unclean One...an actual Greater Daemon...I want this:



Not this:


But this: (this is a WIP)


I just find the GW palette and painting to be an absolute snooze-fest...some of the worst I've seen them do as far as colour choices and execution.

Welp, there we go. I've been ruminating on what to do for a Daemon Prince for my Death Guard and there he is! GUO is it!

I definitely don't like the direction 'Eavy Metal has taken their style, but with it doesn't take much to to make these models look just as horrifying as ever. Love you WIP picture, btw.

I've come to embrace the brighter colors of the new paint schemes. I usually stop painting after base, details, highlights, then a dark wash.... So my models looks very dark. After seeing these new bright colors I've been going back over my models again.

 EnTyme wrote:
I definitely don't like the direction 'Eavy Metal has taken their style, but with it doesn't take much to to make these models look just as horrifying as ever. Love you WIP picture, btw.

Hell, that ain't mine - it's ThirdEyeNuke, the master of gross and creepy.

Imo this kind of paint job suits a rotting creature better. See the difference?

That's more or less the direction I have been taking my DG in.



More images in my gallery.

By no means a pro here, but this is how I painted my Blight Kings from the Hammerhall box (spoilered for size):

Omg, loving these new GUO’s!

I may have to get them all! Hopefully their rules are fun, that giant bell and dagger (why something so fat would use such short ranged weapons is silly, but, TOTALLY NURGLE) must have some cool abilities.

Can someone confirm, does Rotigus have a second head, or is that a face in his left arm?

I really hope epidemius gets an update, and we see pestigors too. I feel like Ep is a great character whose kit could double as a generic herald on palanquin (or even triple with a death guard character on palanquin). And the pestigors obviously could be useful in beastman armies as well.

The paint job doesn’t bother me, I think most of the stuff they’re going to do is going to have a brighter cleaner look. I can’t say I’ve seen anything meant as a main showcase model from the eavy metal team which was done in the last 10 years that looked much different. I’m guessing It has more to do with the details models being easier for people to take in quickly, vs looking more realistic. As I say, doesn’t bother me here, but when they released the plastic minotaurs back in the day, I think it really hurt their perception, as instead of looking like large fuzzy savages, covered in fur, they seemed more like weird Caucasian hairless bodybuilders. I recall back in the 90’s thinking all space marine armor looked like it was painted to resemble Tupperware.

I guess they’ve retired old Kuggath, the former GUO special character who rode a palanquin. I always hoped we’d see an official GW version. Maybe they’ll surprise us someday?

I wasn't sold on Mortarion despite being a Primarch to my first Warhammer army ever.... But I gotta have the GUO.

If Ku'gath is coming he will be a separate kit.

No way he could share enough pieces with the others.

Why do I have a horrible feeling that both of the new GUO's (esp. the first one) do not seem to have weapons that match up with existing models.

The maybe flail seems almost shield-like in the way it's being held.

Ruin wrote:
Why do I have a horrible feeling that both of the new GUO's (esp. the first one) do not seem to have weapons that match up with existing models.

The maybe flail seems almost shield-like in the way it's being held.

They said that there are profiles for them in the forthcoming book, so it's likely they share some components somewhere or we have arms that they didn't show as they're "boring".

So does the Rotigus head, sword right arm, Rotigus left arm with the chain flail added sound like a good plan?

That said, the body looks like Michelin Man/Stay Puft marshmallow man gone to Nurgle. Dissappointed. Converted Glotkin it will be...

T

 Kanluwen wrote:
"Rotigus", the new character Great Unclean One.

Spoiler:

The two other builds.

They're getting rules in the Chaos Daemons codex to "update" it.

Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.