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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 02:27:57
Subject: Re:Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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My favorite BBQ place so far is Hard Eight here in D/ FW. Nothing like a pit BBQ where you go up and pick what you want and just pay by the pound.
Of course, that way, it's very easy for your eyes to bigger than your stomach (or your wallet).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 02:53:08
Subject: Re:Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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St. Louis has its share of good BBQ joints, for sure. I haven't been there personally, but my friends tell me Salt and Smoke is amazing. http://saltandsmokestl.com/
If you want to go get a good variety of amazing BBQ, go to Memphis. Find any BBQ joint. Get a porkbelly sandwich.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 03:29:53
Subject: Re:Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Tannhauser42 wrote:My favorite BBQ place so far is Hard Eight here in D/ FW. Nothing like a pit BBQ where you go up and pick what you want and just pay by the pound.
Of course, that way, it's very easy for your eyes to bigger than your stomach (or your wallet).
That sure seems to be a lot of stuff that isn't pork BBQ. Are you sure you're in the right thread?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 03:43:35
Subject: Re:Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 05:47:19
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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Food trucks in Cali are awesome!
[Rant]
Maybe in Cali, but in the Netherlands they're the devil. Ridiculoudly expensive tiny tidbits of food that I can make more, cheaper and better myself. Generally with less waiting time as well. And for some reason the bloody things are everywhere.
Why a simple burger (or worse, a sausage inna bun) should cost 6 bloody euros is beyond me, but it makes me want to drag those bloody hipsters out of their stupid vans and dump them in the river. With their "food"trucks on top of them.[/rant]
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 07:17:08
Subject: Re:Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Find a hole in the wall place run by an old black guy who doesn't have teeth. Great BBQ is like soul food where it's passed down in families and people take a lot of pride in their BBQ craft that you don't tend to get at the larger joints. Why no teeth? since the old gummy mouthed owner eats there it means everything will be slow cooked to perfection and so soft it's falling off the bone.
Bonus if they throw it on a bed of fries with a piece of bread to suck up the sauce. There's a place my friends and I used to visit all the time that was run by an old man just like that, now it's run by his son (as the old man passed). Nothing flashy, very small place with home built oil drum smokers. You could drive by it and not ever see it but you can't escape the amazing smell. A friend of mine lived right across the street and we ate there at least 4-5 times a week. We'd try and resist but whenever the place fired up for the day and the wind would catch right you'd be drooling even if you'd just eaten. Two days without it was inviting some serious withdrawl.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 07:52:24
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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So best places to go looking for these hole in the wall affairs?
Are we talking just off whatever the US equivalent to the High Street is (main shopping district), or 'hire a car, follow the smell' type adventuring? Automatically Appended Next Post: Speaking of Soul Food - is Louisana/New Orleans at all noted for it's Barbecue?
Yes, I am intending on 'I went to the US and had a massive coronary, but man was it worth it'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 09:32:58
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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New Orleans isn't really known for barbecue, but the food there is amazing in its own beautiful way. Creole food is absolutely amazing, although your tongue will likely catch fire while appreciating it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 14:26:59
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Battlefield Tourist
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I am surprised this thread has not started the second American Civil War yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 15:00:19
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Easy E wrote:I am surprised this thread has not started the second American Civil War yet.
Well, everywhere that does it right is effectively Southern, so, we just glare hatefully at one another and cheer for college football teams to wreck one another.
We save the warrin' for the Yankees.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 15:02:11
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Easy E wrote:I am surprised this thread has not started the second American Civil War yet.
Well, that is because nobody is in here saying that inferior types of bbq(NC/TX) are better than others.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 15:06:47
Subject: Re:Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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New York or Los Angeles.
*sound of needle scratching across record as everyone turns to look*
Yes, really. In their respective Koreatowns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 15:23:40
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Do have to admit that Korea BBQ is amazing...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 15:38:56
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Easy E wrote:I am surprised this thread has not started the second American Civil War yet.
Very specific wording was used! All about me finding the single best location to sample the various ways, myths and methods for meself
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 17:18:30
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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whembly wrote: hotsauceman1 wrote:Im gonna get gak over this
But the Bay Area and Sacramento are starting to get ALOT of food trucks, with alot of them being BBQ too.
Nothing can beat food trucks. add BBq to that, your good.
If you can find a BBQ food truck(Or any food truck really) your good
Food trucks in Cali are awesome!
My work has a food truck day every thursday. They pay local trucks to come infront of the office. Because my office is so far from any food.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 19:07:45
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:So best places to go looking for these hole in the wall affairs?
Are we talking just off whatever the US equivalent to the High Street is (main shopping district), or 'hire a car, follow the smell' type adventuring?
A lot of the good places are a bit off the beaten path and some border areas you may not want to be adventuring through. The larger chain places like to be in high profile locations but a lot of those IMO aren't as good as the smaller family run ones. The place I liked is on the same street as two other BBQ locations, one is terrible and gets by mainly because they have fried chicken, then there's a huge place called the rib pit and it has a big flashy website and it's on the corner so it has high visibility but everyone who's local knows you go to Leon's BBQ which is a couple doors over. His place is really tiny and barely seats more than 10 people so it's all basically carry out or eat standing on the sidewalk. It's basically a little shack and I'm surprised they even have electricity, he starts cooking in the morning and sells until he runs out for the day which can sometimes be rather early if it's a high demand day and once he's out of food he closes shop people have to come back the following day. There's times when he has a line going around the block meanwhile the big "successful" neighbor advertises like crazy but the quality isn't there and if Leon's is open they are barely at half capacity during diner rush.
The best course of action is probably to ask around with the locals as they'll know where to go, it probably doesn't help with trip planning as you likely need to be in the area to ask. Cops, paramedics, and firemen are usually a good sources to ask as they spend a lot of time in the area and will know all the local spots. Bartenders or anyone in the restaurant business can also give good local suggestions. While main shopping areas will draw in some decent high profile places the smaller family shops are usually a bit outside of the prime locations as they are relying more on word of mouth and repeat customer vs paying high rent for visibility that's not really needed. Pick a region known for good BBQ as even the bigger places will likely be decent, then ask around and you might find a stellar place.
Also some of the small family business are open weird hours depending on the local work or party scene. Some places have a lot of people working 3rd shift and so there's bars and places open at 6-7am serving killer diner food, other places don't open until midnight or even 2am if they cater to the after hours bar scene. One of my favorite places to stop for polish dogs or pork chops opens at 1am and runs until 7am as it caters mostly to police and people leaving the bars downtown. It's right next to the highway and smack in the middle of one of the worst areas in the city but on average there's a good dozen police cars present from open to close so as long as you get on and off at the exit and don't venture more than two blocks further everything is great, go beyond that and you're taking a serious gamble. A lot of them are small walk up places so you eat on the street or in the parking lot if they have one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 23:50:48
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Douglas Bader
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Pretty much. BBQ, at least in NC, isn't really a fancy high-class kind of food. The places that spend a lot of effort on making the restaurant look nice tend to be covering for the high prices and lack of food quality, while some small-town shack with none of the fancy decorations has to get by purely on its food quality. There are some nicer BBQ places with great food, but very often you'll find great BBQ at a very unimpressive looking building.
Are we talking just off whatever the US equivalent to the High Street is (main shopping district), or 'hire a car, follow the smell' type adventuring?
The US doesn't really have a "high street" equivalent, there tends to be retail scattered all over the place. And the large malls tend to have their food options dominated by big restaurant chains, which almost always have mediocre food at high prices. They're ok if you're out shopping and need to get some food, but if you want a good meal you almost always have to get away from the malls and out to places where the rent is cheaper and the traffic is mostly local people going for the food instead of mall shoppers looking for a quick snack. And this is true for food of any kind, not just BBQ. If you stick to the large shopping areas you're never going to find anything worth eating.
Also, get used to the idea that everything in the US requires a car. If you visit and don't rent a car you're going to miss most of the best stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/09 23:57:44
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Posts with Authority
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Peregrine wrote:Also, get used to the idea that everything in the US requires a car. If you visit and don't rent a car you're going to miss most of the best stuff.
He's right.
In Europe, Korea, Japan- I could walk to a certain district and spend all day there, doing everything I needed to do. Shop, eat, drink, meet women of negotiable virtue...
Here in the US, I have to drive across town just to handle simple errands like running to the butcher, going to the cleaners, buying booze, meeting women of negotiable virtue...
Hope you've got a friend with a car, Grotsnik.
There -are- cities that have some imitation of what you guys have over there, but it's all very 'plastic'. If you want a good barbecue place, it needs to have the following:
1- fat people eating there
2- an old black dude cooking
3- a raggedy old building
4- old timey stuff on the walls
5- selling random stuff like fidget spinners and bibles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/10 06:25:37
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I live in the Puget Sound area, and one of the best regular BBQ joints (regular meaning fairly cheap prices, good food. . . that sort of thing) is owned/run by a couple Cajun sounding dudes from Louisiana.
Another spot is more spendy, but has amazing food that borrows from most BBQ "disciplines"
IMO, the "best" BBQ is highly subjective, and it largely depends on meat. Like, Fraz is right: you just can't get Brisket like Texas brisket. Ribs are a bit more of a toss up, depending on whether you prefer dry rub, or sauce.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/10 09:48:27
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I don't really like Ribs. Given the bones, seems a waste.
But that's just me! And I'll happily scoff Haggis.
Wonder if one can barbecue Haggis? Probably not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/10 13:27:57
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The best US city for bbq variety is Kansas City. The city's history of being a transportation hub for livestock and a source for jobs for immigrants and migrant freed slaves has created a bbq scene that features beef, pork and lamb along with a variety of sauces, rubs and cooking techniques. You can get KC style, Memphis style and Carolina style bbq all cooked in an authentic manner in Kansas City and that's just not the case in other cities.
If you just want the best bbq then you should just come to the Carolinas for a pig pickin with eastern style vinegar based sauce. Automatically Appended Next Post: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I don't really like Ribs. Given the bones, seems a waste.
But that's just me! And I'll happily scoff Haggis.
Wonder if one can barbecue Haggis? Probably not.
You could probably cook haggis in a smoker, I don't see why you couldn't. The flavor would be different but it could be different in an improved way depending on personal tastes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/10 16:37:01
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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The Conquerer
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Bran Dawri wrote:
Food trucks in Cali are awesome!
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Maybe in Cali, but in the Netherlands they're the devil. Ridiculoudly expensive tiny tidbits of food that I can make more, cheaper and better myself. Generally with less waiting time as well. And for some reason the bloody things are everywhere.
Why a simple burger (or worse, a sausage inna bun) should cost 6 bloody euros is beyond me, but it makes me want to drag those bloody hipsters out of their stupid vans and dump them in the river. With their "food"trucks on top of them.[/rant]
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
I really do not understand the recent obsession with food trucks. All I see with food trucks are your classic roach coach. "Here is your order of tacos with a side of salmonella. The nachos come with free EColi too!"
And the few times I have gotten food from allegedly good food trucks its just meh. And as you say way overpriced. If I'm gonna pay $12+ for lunch, I'd rather go to an actual restaurant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/10 17:09:44
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I'd love to go on a BBQ tour vacation where you spend a night or 2 in each big bbq area. Start in the carolinas somewhere, head over to Memphis, then st louis, KC, then down to texas.. maybe passing through new orleans on the way. Each night of the tour you eat at a famous BBQ joint, then hop on the tour bus the next morning and go to the next place.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/11 03:36:26
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Grey Templar wrote:
I really do not understand the recent obsession with food trucks. All I see with food trucks are your classic roach coach. "Here is your order of tacos with a side of salmonella. The nachos come with free EColi too!"
And the few times I have gotten food from allegedly good food trucks its just meh. And as you say way overpriced. If I'm gonna pay $12+ for lunch, I'd rather go to an actual restaurant.
Its a cheap/inexpensive way to start a food joint with less overhead.
So people who are good cooks/ethnic food start them to create good/authentic food.
Food trucks are the best!!!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/11 04:29:49
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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The Conquerer
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I get that. But food trucks just still have this inescapable thing of being unsanitary. I'm a bit paranoid about food safety perhaps. But I just have never had any good food out of a food truck. And I've given them a chance. I've eaten at trucks that everybody is crazy over. The food just is mediocre at best, and I feel like I'm rolling the dice with food poisoning. Just not worth it to pay for overpriced mediocre food that has a higher than typical chance of making me sick.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/11 05:03:34
Subject: Re:Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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I've never gotten sick from the ones around here, so they must be doing something right, however, I generally second your notion that they're vastly overrated and too expensive.
Having that been said, I eat at them a lot, because I usually skip lunch and eat at my desk, and going to the parking lot for food is hella convenient. Having that been said, there's only one truck I've had so far that I actually look forward to, and a whole lot that I will get in my car and drive to avoid if they're the only ones in the area. And these are assuming that I didn't pack a lunch, which I've been trying to get into the habit of doing more lately.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/11 05:16:25
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I haven't gotten sick from a food truck, but I know and have heard of plenty who have. And I have gotten food poisoning before, not pleasant at all. So I really don't want to patronize anything that has a reputation. Add overpriced and overrated to the list and it's easily something to avoid.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/11 05:20:09
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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KC, Memphis, St. Louis, Northern and Central Texas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/11 08:13:15
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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hotsauceman1 wrote:
Its a cheap/inexpensive way to start a food joint with less overhead.
So people who are good cooks/ethnic food start them to create good/authentic food.
Food trucks are the best!!!!!!
If they're inexpensive, why is the food coming out of them so bloody expensive?
And good cooks... Like I said, mostly I can make the food better myself, so they can't be that good...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/08/11 16:10:36
Subject: Best US City for Barbecue variety.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Bran Dawri wrote: hotsauceman1 wrote:
Its a cheap/inexpensive way to start a food joint with less overhead.
So people who are good cooks/ethnic food start them to create good/authentic food.
Food trucks are the best!!!!!!
If they're inexpensive, why is the food coming out of them so bloody expensive?
And good cooks... Like I said, mostly I can make the food better myself, so they can't be that good...
Greatly depends on the area, the food itself, and a number of other factors.
In my area, food trucks are under even more strict guidelines than B&M food joints as far as cleanliness, and they are inspected way more often. they are also typically cheaper than drive-thru restaurants of the same type (ie, the taco truck is cheaper than Taco Bell, the burger trucks I've seen are actually cheaper than McD's and other burger places, but serve more/better food).
And if you truly can make the food better yourself, you must be some kind of chef, cuz a lot of the ethnic foods I see/have gotten, while I could undoubtedly learn how to make it, it wouldn't be nearly as good as I've gotten from the ethnic chef.
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